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Teri, I think Jipsah may be referring to what would be called an "immoral" order, such as attacking civilians who are not involved in the battle. Its important to remember that we are called to "love our neighbors as ourselves." That quote applies strongly here. What that is implying is that we are to love ourselves (not to become selfish), to care for ourselves, to take care of ourselves. It also says that we are called to care for others. What that verse also implies is that since we are to love and care for ourselves, that also means protecting ourselves, since we are to love ourselves. To be completely pacifist to the point of allowing yourself to be killed can be viewed as not loving oneself. I believe that a Christian has the right to defend himself to the point necessary of protecting ones own life. If that neccesitates killing someone else, then it is justified. However, killing someone intentionally in just a "fist-fight" would not be justified. It would be excessive.

I'd like to add a sobering extension of what I wrote in my last post... it made me sad when I thought this the first time, and it still does. Because God is ever present, it is also, right now, in God's eyes, Good Friday when Christ was being crucified. At that time, He took on the sins of the world, not only for that day, but for all time! What that means is that everytime we sin, we add to Christ's suffering on that day of sacrafice 2000 years ago. We, those who love Christ, add to His pain. I find it sobering and saddening to know that I can hurt Christ in such a way every time I sin... Just my opinion and insight.

There are three things that I accept about God when it comes to time and other such things. God is omniscient (all-knowing), God is omnipotent (all-powerful), and God is omnipresent (present everywhere at the same time). I also like to think of God as being omnipresent in the sense that He only exists in the present. In other words, all of time is instantaneous to God. In His eyes, we are all already dead. In His eyes, we are just now being born. In His eyes, He has just created the sun. In His eyes, the sun has burnt out. He saw and was at the end of time at the beginning of time. God has seen all of human history in what we would figuratively say "In a second". Time, to God, and the dead, and those in Heaven, doesn't have a meaning. Time is only relevant to the living. It confines us, it allows us to function within matter. Without time, our primitive brains would not be able to comprehend what was going on. Just my opinion.

I agree with Xan, that case you described Rosanne sounds like it could be schizophrenia or some others mental illness. I think its important that if someone experiences similar things over a long period of time, to see a psychiatrist to see if it is physical or not. To say something that is demon possession that is actually a mental illness is to give Satan even more power than he deserves.

Ok, thanks. I just like to know where these stories come from. With all of the stuff in the news about these priests, I'm sure that some stories are going to be trumped up now (and don't think I'm accusing you of this Bob).

Could I have a source please.

Good question Xan... and I'm thinking that since I too follow many despicable traditions... I must be overwhelmed by God's grace... because I definately believe in Christ and have declared Him as my Lord many times... Is not faith in Christ all one needs to be saved (at least according to Protestant teaching)?

Xan, I know one source that does that is a book called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. A very interesting book.

Don't fret "contraditions", they are important... The reason they are important is because they show that the authors of the Bible did not just copy off of one another. It EVERY Gospel was exactly the same, what would that show us? That Matthew could copy Mark, that's about it. No, the small, insignificant differences show that each writer wrote for a different purpose and had different sources for their writings. Does it matter if Mary says something different in those Gospels? No, not really... the POINT of the Gospel is still the same, even if the story explaining that point may be a little different.

Did I misread this, or is this page denying the trinity? Read this part: Especially'>http://www.abarim-publications.com/artblam...ml Especially "The Son Paradox"Let me know what you all think