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On 4/23/2020 at 5:54 PM, Michael37 said:

Jas 2:26  For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Have you ever tried to answer the question of why faith without works is dead? James provides an analogy between an inert, lifeless body and faith without works, but why is faith without works as dead as a body without a spirit?

Something to ponder...

The best answer is simple.

God Says So.

If anyone chooses to differ with God,  God just laughs....  (at the plans of the wicked)....  God does NOT argue with them.

All the thoughts, the source, the teachings and the practices and the doctrines and the dogmas of evolution,  is manmade or worse.

It did not ever,  no never, proceed from the Father,  nor from heaven,  never from God,  never His Way nor even in His thoughts, ever,  no , never.

The Way Scripture Describes,    as the spirit and the flesh battles DAILY.

19 minutes ago, WordSword said:

How can one be “dead to sin” (Rom 6:2) and yet continue to possess its source, which is the “old man”

1 hour ago, Rick_Parker said:

I am a senior citizen with a serious underlying medical condition, one of the most vulnerable. So, I choose to self isolate as much as possible. But people who are healthy and able bodied (most of the Nation) should not be forced to do the same. If someone is fearful of the virus, then by all means stay away. Wear a mask and gloves. Stay at least 6 feet away from the people standing around you. That is the way to not be exposed to the virus. But, that is your choice. The vast majority of the people are not afraid and want to get back to normal.

Good (compared to the 'many' not good).......    and I think , likewise, if you could have in the past,  found out what to do,   to not be 'vulnerable',  you may well have learned the way,  and pursued it willingly,  finding knowledge of what to do along the way, testing and proving every step,  as God Grants.   No worries be somewhat 'protective' until what is to be known is known....  and not senselessly, no,  but with Wisdom and Knowledge step by step,  slowly or fast,  as God Directs.....

5 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

If Psalms 91 applies to every Christian. Then why have Christians died of this? Why do they die of Flu and cancer and other such illnesses? 

 

Simple.   Not everyone called Christian is ...Christian.  

Second,  as God says again:   "MY PEOPLE" perish for lack of knowledge.   See?  They do not know what to do, so they perish.

The directions, the instructions,  the examples of how to live, of what to do,  have long been opposed publicly and privately,  in society and in churches,  by those making money,  and most others.    

The simple instructions,  the simple preventions,  the simple remedies,  require a total life change (God's Way) ....  God requires a total life change....

Few change.

The title says "in the body".... as if the assembly was already in the body...

But the description given in the op of the 'church' in the op

is far from the body,   the body as described even just in Ephesians,   let alone also as necessary in Philippians,  Colossians,  etc ....

So the 'correction' required by God in His Word is to "come out of her "  the instructions to and  for "My (God's ) people" ,  not to try to correct a 'church' so full of error.

48 minutes ago, Alive said:

It is obvious that this situation must be dealt with and that this status quo cannot continue. The flock is in danger and the unity of the church is in peril.

What place does behaving in a gentle, loving and patient way with longsuffering have in the Pastor’s next moves? Where does his loyalty lie?

The Pastor is not a dull man and he knows full well that whatever he does, not everyone is going to be happy. You see, a wolf has entered the flock.

Where does his loyalty lie and what is he to do?

49 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

"Who" is forcing them???

As written in Scripture Prophesy:  pharmkea....

1 minute ago, Godismyloveforever said:

And the point?

Are the wolves the ones who say real Christians can't get Covid19 so do anything you want you will be ok?  

I was viciously attacked in the chat room here by someone who said real Christians can't get Covid19 when I told her that is not true anymore can get it.

I consider her to be a wolf.

 

...  a wolf or worse....   or at least very deceived in who they are trusting....

The wolves are the ones who God says are wolves.  Includes those who listen to demons instead of Jesus, and are opposed to Jesus.   Includes those cursed by Jesus for bringing-carrying a false gospel. 

Finding 'real Christians' on the internet, or in person, is a challenge,  a difficult one, and always test, test, test - testing is required not of everyone - but only of those God directs (most are ignored),   before accepting any message,  any poster,  any member,  any pastr, pirest, or teacher, or any teaching -  over 90% are false everywhere,  no exceptions seen so far .... by testing - and by their own words!  (when a false evangelist is exposed, as false,  a lot of members jump up and down to 'protect' them, and to 'protest' them being exposed....  thus the 'fruit'(results) of the wolves teachings is very productive,  as Jesus said it would be - multitudes with tickled ears,  loving tickled ears,  attracted to tickled ears,  prmotoing tickled ears....   it is a very dangerous world / society we all live in....

27 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Brother, this is just an observation, ...no harm meant...

You start with bad advice and false faith statements and then you post what you think, ...are you 100% sure about the pastor and his congregation, ...were you there, are you certified to confirm his death, ...if he died, was it actually from the virus, ...can you, are you, ...100% certain, ...or are you just repeating what someone has told you?

Brother it is this kind of speculation that is fueling this "panic" from the media hype...

May I suggest some wisdom from Proverbs, ...without wood the fire will go out!

Lord bless

Remember things posted on the open internet,  are usually false.   Growing more daily.   Same as the news/ media/ has always been longer than we have been alive....  such is the nature of the fallen society/ world.

On 5/2/2020 at 1:28 PM, Gideon said:

There has been much contention lately on this site, much of it seeming centered around the warnings given to us in His word. In the eyes of many, they have rallied around eternal security of the believer. But I want to dig deeper here, for if we fight our battles on this ground,  we miss the far more important truth. 

God is looking for His people to OBEY Him, not because He is a hard, authoritarian God but because we cannot abide in Him in relationship without it, and tge God of the universe wants a relationship with us. 

The Old Covenant made this very clear. The ten commandments were given as the standard of God. These were the things important to the heart of God, centered around this  core truth..... thous shalt love the Lord, your God, with all your heart. All your mind. All your soul. aall yoyr strength. All.

But there is  a problem. Our old fallen natures cannnot obey.

Our old fallen natures don't have to obey.  (God deals with it, as written)...

No where in the NT,  While Jesus was alive on earth with students,  or later,

did the born again one's old fallen sinful nature , the old self of called ones called  by God,  born again (circumcised hearts),  by God's Will (not by man's will, nor blood, nor man's doing, nor by man's strength or wit),  

no where did or does the "old nature" obey.   It always battles against the spirit, always,  every day.

On 4/27/2020 at 6:06 AM, Debp said:

Also, doctors think there might be a second wave of it in the Fall.   Hopefully not.

It is promised in Prophesy of Scripture.   ( death of one third or more of all men on earth) (physical death - spiritual death may be much much more)

On 4/27/2020 at 6:05 AM, Debp said:

A few days ago a doctor mentioned that there might be no assurance of immunity, even when one has had the virus.    He said we just don't know much about this virus.

Anyone else hear this?

Millions, perhaps billions of people have been told similar tall tales... (myths)....  for perhaps dozens of reasons ,  wittingly and unwittingly.  

The 'groups',  isolated and rare as they are,  that are not affected,  are not publicized at all,  or else with most of the good info covered up with a lot more distractions....

Even g&&lll search engine is very censored....   as obviously all the media outlets too....

Yet God's Promise,  not man's,  is that WHOEVER is  seeking His Kingdom, ongoing (always seeking),

WILL FIND HIM...  in spite of all the governments and religions trying to stop them/us from knowing the truth.

2 minutes ago, LonerAndy said:

So once again, you have nothing new to say, and are just spamming repeated posts.

Not only are you spamming stuff that isn't new, but it has nothing at all to do with the discussion.

Thankfully this forum has a way to deal with that.  I'm going to put you on ignore, and never see your posts again, or talk to you about anything.  If have nothing of value to say, then you are wasting everyone's time.  I might mention that unlike my posts which have referenced the Bible numerous times, and have been based on the life and actions of Jesus Christ himself... you have basically been obnoxious here.  I think you should reflect on how your actions on this thread, have made Christianity and Jesus, look bad.

Good bye.

Always look for those who are faithful and truthful,  and even though people used to 'expect' that from forums on the internet,   that carried a 'christian' name,   they find out quickly otherwise,  and usually leave without posting anything (per their many testimony unpublished).   Listening to demons, following false seeker-friendly gospels,  is very common apparently,  everywhere,  and so every statement of anyone (even of an Apostle, or a so-called 'angel of light') MUST BE PROVEN FIRST,

BEFORE accepting it.  This testing rules out over 90% everywhere, and more in most places....  honesty and truth is very rare, online, and in person.

9 minutes ago, Coliseum said:

I think Jesus wants us to approach others sharing "the truth in love" just as he did. It is the truth that sets us free, and it is our love that makes the truth bearable to hear.Jesu

Jesus always spoke and did just as the Father directed,  perfectly.

His attitude and deeds and words always perfect too.

His audience?  Like our audience,  sinful world - sinful men,  society, 

and most people rejected and hated and hate Jesus,  even though He gives so much true love (not mushy, not emotional, not related to carnal feelings at all) .

Most people today still reject Jesus,  and do until He Returns.

Not only that,  see as written,  the people are not at all 'neutral', as if not for and not against - no, there is no such category.

They are overall listening to and following demons, as written, and will not repent,  even though Jesus rose from the dead...

15 hours ago, Paul James said:

No.  I don't want to learn about a delusion that God has sent to those who will not believe God's Word as written.  Evolution is a total lie, and I would rather hold to the truth that is in God's Word as written.

The world, family, society that people have grown up with, even the churches,  are all under delusion,

except for the few God Says and Describes in His Word.  

They 'all' have many voices in their lives......  that they choose to listen to at times, some times, or all the time,

just as everyone was trained to do.

Evolution, by the world's definition, as you have posted, is from the enemy,  is evil,  is wicked,  and is wrong.   Everything of the flesh,  proceeding from carnality,  is to be repented of, not endorsed nor embraced by followers of Jesus - it must all be renounced totally,  completely,  as the origin, the seed,  the tree,  from which evolution sprung/grew  i s sin,   just like partaking of the forbidden fruit whatever it was. 

The 'changes' you noticed or noted,  are all completely within God's Creation Account,  God's Plan and Purpose, as HE DESIGNED.....   nothing by chance,  nothing by happenstance,  nothing from evil ways (except in men as He Knew all along, and as He Permitted all along so far).

Using the term "evolution" (and the ways accociated with it) is a departure from God's Way,  all the time.

45 minutes ago, Willa said:

Evolution is not what you apparently think it is either.  It is slow changes in different species over time.  There are different schools in evolution as well.

ev·o·lu·tion| ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n | noun  1 the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.

2 the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form: the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution.  

14 hours ago, Paul James said:

No.  I don't want to learn about a delusion that God has sent to those who will not believe God's Word as written.  Evolution is a total lie, and I would rather hold to the truth that is in God's Word as written.

As you've see frequently,  you won't find support for sticking with God's Word on the internet.  There's no part of society that chooses to turn to God for His Salvation,  His Healing,  nor His Way.    Only a few individuals ever do.

Nothing you mentioned actually observing is contrary to God's Word or God's Plan or God's Purpose.

Everything about evolution though is totally from the enemy,  not what you think,  and is opposed to God's Word and God's Plan and God's Purpose,  along with all the carnal world - society - sons of disobedience.

i.e. whatever you were told "evolution" is ,   it is not God's Way.  

Whatever you have observed,  is NOT supporting of what 'evolution' says.

2 minutes ago, Willa said:

I do believe ...... These are all a part of evolution whether by human intervention or not.

EVERY DAY of a believers life:

"Sheep among Wolves
15Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town. 16Look, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17

But beware of men; for they will hand you over to their councils and flog you in their synagogues.…"

On 5/1/2020 at 12:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

if we cannot heal people like peter did, better not wandering around.

On 5/1/2020 at 12:44 AM, R. Hartono said:

This Corona virus is just as deadly as hungry alligators, the same creation of God.

So what ?

Daniel was put in a den with hungry lions.  

Daniel said "I will not deny my faith , I will not deny Yahweh",  EVEN IF He Lets Me Die.

The lions were real.  Hungry alligators may be real.   So what ?  Who is greater ?

Besides all the false info broadcast about viruses (all viruses).  Whoever seeks for what worked in the past,  will be delighted to see what still works.

The Tulsa Jail did not go on lockdown,  years ago,   when it wiped out every infection.

For five months, reported on broadcast antenna tv,  channels 2 and 6 ( maybe more ) ,

for five months the Tulsa Jail did not go on lockdown - and they had ZERO INFECTIONS.... (none at all requiring medical / doctor/ anti-biotics) ...  

Big deal?   Well,  in every previous five months time period,  they AVERAGED 3 to 6 medical intervention needed infections EVERY DAY.

When they did what is right, they had and continued to have ZERO INFECTIONS. 

3 minutes ago, LonerAndy said:

Ezekiel 33:8

• When I say to the wicked, 'You wicked person, you will surely die,' and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.

The wicked shall surely die... even as Jesus says,  unless they each repent,  truthfully (not for show).

The wicked visit every internet location daily,  and almost no one warns them, ever.  They have little chance of ever repenting anyway, according to all Scripture - (thus: "few" find Jesus)... 

never-the-less,  HOW shall they HEAR,  if no one tells them ?  HOW shall anyone tell them , when it is against all the ecumenical forum's rules on earth ? (every group that is in the false gospel,  wants 'peace, peace',  and wants to talk with demons ( 'they' say it is 'okay' BUT IT IS NOT EVER OKAY ! ) ..   ...

every false gospel bringer,   seduced by the false teachings and tickled ears,  multiplies the sins over and over,  seeking to sin,  planning to sin,  over and over ....

giving heed to demons (listening to demons) ....

Previous world leaders and presidents for a century or more have tried.  Step by step.

Seek the truth (all the time, every day),  and keep seeking the truth (healing, salvation, righteousness, Yahweh's Kingdom, Jesus , all as written - all as the Father accomplishes).

Lay down our lives for one another in the purpose of God - in the body of Christ.

As Jesus says:   "Getting is NOT the way (to live, to life)"   "SELF-sacrifice (not self harm, no) is the way"  "and I (Jesus) Will show you how to live"  "come to Me, and learn from Me"  "My sheep HEAR MY VOICE, and follow ME, and WILL NOT listen to nor follow another (voice) "

What if , as the internet is so anonymous daily, (as the authorities, police,  security experts all) warn,   what if someone claims to be a man, or a woman, and is not ?

Very common according to the one investigating (the authorities) websites, chat rooms and forums.

Also,  what men say - what is that ?   

Instead,  what does God Say ?   He did not tell people to make up their own mind (except WHO TO SERVE) .....