TheMatrixHasU71
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On 4/27/2018 at 11:23 AM, Mishael said:
Prove it's pagan from history, there's no proof Christmas was pagan that's a common myth I researched it myself. Since no catholic sources state Pope Gregory stating this and when I google it all I get are evangelical sites not one historical source states he said t his, kind of proves it's a fabrication.
Of course no CATHOLIC sites will give you the truth, that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone who knows the truth. There is a good reason why we all know ROME is spiritual Babylon, its because its a total mess of pagan practices!
Come on man dont waste your time with Catholic websites they will never give you the truth. Evangelical websites are quoting historical facts, so, what you think they are just making this stuff up just for the hell of it
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5 minutes ago, Mishael said:
Christmas isn't pagan it has nothing to do with Ishtar
You are getting your facts wrong again Ishtar is EASTER/Astarte. And Christmas IS PAGAN which has been proven by centuries of wisdom not to mention HISTORY
And as long as you keep turning a blind eye to the facts about the true pagan origins of the Roman Catholic church you are doing a disservice to those we are trying to get OUT of that evil entity.
And as for your foolish claim that Gregory never said anything about the Roman Catholic church meeting pagans halfway for goodness sake what kind of proof is good enough for you? I gotta go my library time is up
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Even the Rosary, I should have added, is pagan, originating thousands of years before Christ with Hinduism and Buddhism. Dont believe the Roman Catholic nonsense story that it originated with the Irish counting Psalms by dropping rocks into a pot.
Though there may be some truth to that story that is NOT how the rosary started
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On 4/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, Mishael said:
Feast days were also done by early Christians, Pontifex Maximus literally means bridge builder or bridge maker, it was cone used as a pagan title, but the title itself isn't necessarily pagan
Christians in the first century did not celebrate pagan feast days (the love feasts mentioned in the bible were themselves rebuked by the apostles as so many people were being left out that they said its better to eat at home first) and since the title of Pontiff/whatever never originated with Judaism it is a pagan title. And the whole concept of an earthly head of a universal church is also not of Judeo/Christian origin. The true "Vicar" of Christ on earth is the Holy Spirit alone, never a man.
And as for the Pope Gregory 1 meeting pagans halfway, incorporating pagan practices into the church, goodness man look it up! Why wont you do the work on your own when its plenty easy to find?
http://www.christiandataresources.com/pagancatholicism.htm
http://bibletruth.orgfree.com/articles/MeetPagans.pdf
https://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/sect33.htm
http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/holidays2.htm
And as for your comment that the papal mitre itsnt a Dagon fish hat because it doesnt look 100% exactly like a Dagon hat that is pure nitpicking. It is a Dagon fish hat regardless or whether or not it has eyes and fish scales on it
https://in5d.com/why-is-the-popes-mitre-shaped-like-a-fish/
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On 4/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, Mishael said:
There's no goddess worship in the Roman Catholic Church, Easter and Christmas aren't pagan festivals these are two common myths and both were celebrated by early Christians.
You really need to do some homework here for the Catholic Church worships Mary as a goddess and Easter/Astarte and Christmas ARE pagan. This stuff is very easy to find and they WERENT celebrated by early Christians
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12 hours ago, Mishael said:
You can't prove Christmas is of pagan origin, you jut don't want to admit that you have no proof. I still find it weird that your quoting from an Anti Christian Jewish Rabbi.
Umm yeah it is of pagan origin, its easy enough to look up. There is no way that Christ was born in winter as the shepherds would not have been out in the field by night. December 25 is a pagan holiday that the Catholic church adopted to appease the pagans and to assuage the feelings of those "Christians" who wanted to take part in the celebrations without feeling guilty.
I urge you again to read Alexander Hyslop's Two Babylons. Also....
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/cmas1.htm
https://www.gotquestions.org/Christmas-origin.html
https://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm
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9 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:
I've emailed him again and will see what happens, if anything.
Well, remember what I told him in one of my lasts posts to him. I said God led you here, but not for the reasons he may think. If he thinks God led him here to convince us that Islam is the truth then he may as well leave because he will never convince us that Islam is anything but an evil lie. Sooooo, guess he chose to leave.
He wasnt willing to listen to the other possibility I told him, that God led him here to learn the real truth
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19 hours ago, Mishael said:
They are Christians just as you are, the whore of Babylon is Mecca not Rome, Satanic would be to deny jess something the Roman Catholic Church doesn't do, there's no evidence the Roman Catholic Church is pagan either, not to mention its past suppression of anything pagan. You do know Catholic means universal it doesn't necessarily have to do with the Church of Rome, I call myself Catholic yet I'm not part of the Church of Rome.
I am sorry but Rome is the whore of Babylon. There are two Babylons, the literal one, surrounded by seven hills, and the spiritual one, Rome, also surrounded by seven hills. Mecca doesnt fit the bill because Islam is not a spiritual Babylon.
There is no evidence that the RCC is pagan? Everything about it is pagan oriented, all its practices are. Even down to its worshipping of statues and goddess worship and its feast days (usually involving originally pagan characters), Easter/Christmas, priestly celibacy, their silly colored dresses.... the College of Cardinals......the POPE (pagan pontifex Maximus) who wears a Dagon fish hat....I could go on and on about how paganism has totally infiltrated her....And I know full well Catholic means universal but the RCC and its daughters are not the true universal church
And as for pagan suppression, I think it was Pope Gregory "the Great" who preached the idea of meeting pagans halfway, by incorporating their pagan celebrations into the church rather than leading them totally out of their paganism
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9 hours ago, Mishael said:
Not according to their Quran, which is why I asked the question.
I also recommend you read Two Babylons if you havent already.
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9 hours ago, Mishael said:
Roman Catholicism isn't evil and needs to stop being portrayed as such.
Mishael Roman Catholicism is evil and corrupt to the core. It is but a Satanic pagan religious entity with a thin peeling veneer of Christianity slapped on it. Now no one is saying that applies to all who call themselves Catholic, certainly no one is saying that there are no saved Roman Catholics out there but they are people who are Catholic in name only and not truly devoted to the Whore of Babylon. But all who ARE will face the judgment and eternal damnation.
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On 4/17/2018 at 12:45 AM, Gleason92 said:
Hello again. Long story short, I had an unfortunate, sudden but not unexpected death in the family recently. The adult siblings all gathered. 5 families, 4 of which are lapsed or worse. We get on the topic of faith, and I'm sent into action. I defend truth as vehemently as I know how. However, I'm green, an amateur. I was challenged on the great flood and I was tripped up. A very sly objection I had never heard or had to defend anywhere. I was challenged on the timing of the Bible vs. Gilgamesh when it comes to the great flood. My only defense was to ask for empirical proof of dates and to explain the Bible was orally passed down for a long time as well.
I also explained how all the Messiah myths of old were simply false Christ stories attempting to fulfill old testament prophecy, and it's backwards to think those myths are the same thing as the Jesus Truth which in fact DID fulfill ALL prophecies (attempting to correlate this logic to the Genesis flood). But I'm not satisfied with myself on the Gilgamesh topic and would like to ask if anyone could help basically debunk Gilgamesh as an empirical proof of an older flood story compared to Genesis?
I apologize if the answers are already archived here, I'm just trying to engage some positive discussion, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
EVERY culture in the world has some sort of flood story. Ask yourself why. Does the bible borrow from these cultures or is it the other way around.
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On 4/21/2018 at 5:41 AM, Debp said:
I have heard that there is no compulsion about religion in Islam. However, it certainly does seem like there is.....people raised as Muslims afraid of leaving Islam. They fear being put to death....or at the least being disowned by their own families.
There probably are many Muslims that are secret believers in Christ as their Savior, but they must remain secret due to the above.
Comments please...
No compulsion and yet when Muslims leave their religion, Muhammad in the Hadith categorically says that they should all lose their heads. And yes I too have heard of Muslims who want to leave Islam but are too afraid to
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On 4/22/2018 at 9:02 AM, Badjao33 said:
Thousands of Christians in mexico have been beheading one another in recent years. There have been over a dozen beheads this month alone. Beheadings happen in a lot of Christian cultures. Remember Rwanda?
The"Christianity" in Mexico and Rwanda is nearly entirely Roman Catholicism which is not true Christianity but a Satanic counterfeit. Bit of a change of subject here--> Its also well known that the Rwandan massacre happened shortly after a few young schoolgirls saw an apparition of "Mary" (demonic as we all know) and any apparitions of Mary that appear all are followed very quickly by massacres or all out wars
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On 4/22/2018 at 8:05 AM, OneGodBeliever said:
Jews also agree with Muslims that Jesus isn't the Messiah and never believed Jesus was God ! I am ready to agree with Jews for both of our claims
Doesnt matter what they believe, most Jews have been blinded to the truth ,as prophesied in scripture. But they will see the truth soon as will you.
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11 hours ago, Mishael said:
OneGodBeliever walked out on my question regarding the Gharaniq incident when Mohammed said to worship the daughters of Allah, Allat, Manat, and Al Uzza.
See that is one of the problems I have brought up ,that Muslims will not answer clear problems with the Koran but will continue to ignore them. They wont use their own God given brains to reason things out but continue to think the way that Islam tells them to think, meaning, DONT QUESTION. I wont even bother to answer the rest of that long list now, there is no point when he wont listen
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On 4/21/2018 at 11:44 AM, OneGodBeliever said:
1x1x1=1 when you count people you don't multiply. No wonder you are what you are
Umm yeah you do when you count the Trinity because the Trinity is united and not separate
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19 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:
he's done the same to me, but would not engage me in a public discussion.
He doesnt seem too willing to answer to any points I put to him
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On 4/18/2018 at 5:30 PM, Melissa7 said:
This was difficult for me to read. While I'm against the RCC and everything it teaches, at the same time, how could anyone with a heart tell a grieving little boy that his dad is in Hell? It's so sad. Do we lie to children so as to save their tender feelings? If the child was older, I wouldn't have as much of a problem in telling the truth; even though by doing that, one could turn the boy against God.
In any case, if this young man was baptized into the RCC, then he's going to be taught falsely for his entire life.
How would anyone here answer the boy's question? I'm just curious.
I have sometimes thought that though it is wrong to lie, telling the truth to someone who doesnt know the real truth and is hurting enough only causes more harm that good. It can be unnecessarily tactless even when well meant.
Like last fall when my dad died, my mom who goes to church but I dont believe she is truly saved because she seems willing to go along with what others were telling her that my (unsaved) dad was a 'good' man so yeah he is in heaven. What do you tell a person at such a time?
Sometimes I have thought its better to let them think what they like and when they are stronger, learn the real truth for themselves or gently bring it up with them when they are ready
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On 4/20/2018 at 9:49 AM, Mishael said:
Christianity had no contact with the Indian subcontinent until a few centuries ago
There are stories, though I dont know how reliable they are, of Thomas making it to India, and there is evidence that there are remnants of a few churches that may date back to nearly this time
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12 hours ago, OneGodBeliever said:
Well for me it's a fact Islam is the truth. If it was not I'd not follow it. Again you are speaking unnecessarily that it's fact Islam this and that. Now see what I believe.
it's a fact Christianity's own history betrays it, and this a fact that christians cannot reconcile the concept of Trinity with each other. Is it one or three or three in one or one in three or what. For us 1=1. Tawheed is clear.
Now Muslims who worship saints can say it's not shirk(associating partners with God) and they can say anything but that does not make it true. They are like you said that bible contains bronze age history which is not inspired by God. Now mainstream Christians would consider those words blasphemy but I understand you are like our Shias, saying anything but claiming to me mainstream.
Christianity's history doesnt betray itself. Just because men's limited minds had difficulty grasping the concept of the Trinity doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. The Trinity is THREE persons united as one like a fmaily. 1x1x1=1.
True Christians do not worship saints either, that is Roman Catholic (not a true Christian church) tradition which they adopted out of paganism.
Yes the bible does contain bronze age history. The bible does not draw from that history, That history CONFIRMS the bible. Archaeology also confirms the bible.
Listen, OneGod, GOD brought you here. Why? for you to convince us that Islam is true? If you truly believe that then you should leave because you will not succeed; because we know the REAL truth. That Jesus is God the Son come in the flesh for sinful men . And you will never convince us that Islam is anything but a lie.
Why did God really bring you here? Not for the reason you believe. But He wants you to learn the real truth. He wants you to be saved. What hope of salvation do you have in Islam who preaches a false Jesus?
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4 hours ago, OneGodBeliever said:
That silly documentary is completely ignorant of history, claiming that the 4th century Roman empire created the NT forgetting the fact that the NT goes back to the beginning. And we have physical proof of that in fragments of the gospels that date to the first/early 2nd centuries.
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22 hours ago, OneGodBeliever said:
We can analyse the scriptures today. I'm not relying on anyone's opinion but stating what is written in bible
But what we are telling you, and I keep telling you this is NOT our opinions, it is in the bible.
I noticed too that you yet still have to answer to my charge that the Koran is corrupted when I pointed out to you the example (only one out of many) of how Mary, mother of Jesus is said in the Koran to be daughter of 'Imran/Amram when Muhammad confused her with Miriam, sister of Moses, daughter of 'Imran/Amram and Jochabel. Mary, mother of Jesus was the daughter of Heli
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1 hour ago, HisFirst said:
Hi Matrix, if I understand it correctly, the departing part is from the unbelievers side leaving the believer (not vise-versa) - and if the unbelieving partner is willing to stay with the believer then let him Not put her away.
Yes I do know who it points to but God never meant for man to live in continual strife with an unbelieving wife who clearly is NOT happy with him. 1 Cor 7:12 is speaking of a wife who loves and respects her hubby.
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14 hours ago, ytLiJC said:
there must be some beginning, mustn't there?! - after all, there is speech about beginning in many biblical verses such as Genesis 1:1, John 1:1-2, Revelation 22:13, etc.
so, what happened in the very beginning?!, what had happened before the beginning?!, was it His first time to create everything 5-6 millennia ago?!, what if God had to create everything many times during the infinite time before the moment mentioned in Genesis 1:1?!, if He created everything countless times since beginninglessness of time, why did He have to?!, will He have to create everything over and over again in the coming infinity of time?!
if there was a beginning, then there must also be an end, and if there is a beginning and end, there must also be a middle, but mustn't there also be some transition between the end and the next beginning, albeit short?!.....
isn't there an eternal cycle and even an eternal circle?!, if so, then why?! - is it possible that the true God turn out to be evil?, i don't think so, because He would be sinful and even the greatest sinner if He was evil - after all, He is the system Administrator of the whole infinite universe
so there must be some reasonable explanation for these things, and without boasting about myself i can say i find it even in the biblical scriptures
Blessings
The eternal God has no beginning. He has always existed. What did He do before Creation? We do not know. It is something not meant for us to know this side of heaven for whatever reason though when we are with Him we shall know.
There is no beginning and no ending with God. And no "next beginning". When you talk about an eternal cycle or eternal circle, that is something that comes out of hinduism, not of the bible.
To OneGodBeliever- the list you gave me
in Defense of the Gospel
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I have shown you the facts and you still wont see. You are just like me when I used to be a non believer; I often like to say that you could have shown me Jesus Christ face to face and I would still have blown him off as an alien from Star Trek or something.
You cant just go ahead and assume all evangelical websites are all liars. You cant just assume Hyslop is a liar. Nothing of the Catholic church has any biblical origins but was all adopted from paganism