Sparks

I know you believe this, but I don't know why you believe it. There is no chance we are here due to evolution.

Well, there is a lot of evolution propaganda out there, and retractions on papers (hope you checked the one you posted). There is one real type of evolution called microevolution, but the other types are fake.

Sorry, but that is all the propaganda. You wanted to know what was fake, and I told you.

There is always Earnest Haekle's fraud, and the Miller Urey Experiment. The idea that a genetic mutation can be seen to increase the information in the genome (aka Macroevolution), and the notion that kinds can produce different kinds, given enough time, and all those usual suspects. Nothing has changed, and Darwinian Evolution is not observed.

Yes, always check it out for yourself. This guy only just published the data early this month.

I remember Japan rejected a massive batch of vaccines because they were so dirty, and I recall that some batches were awful, and others more clean, and that the awful batches had made their way to Red States. It's difficult to keep up with it all.

From what I understand, some whistleblower with access at the New Zealand Ministry of Health anonymized the vaccine data, and turned out it was 1 death per 1,000 shots for Pfizer and Moderna, so I guess the math can be applied anywhere those shots were used. Apparently, you can download the original data, and run a Python script against it to see the same results.

Oh, I know. A guy in New Zealand just released that about 17 to 20 million died from the Covid 19 vaccines, reported just this month. Steve Kirsch is following it. Steve is an MIT genius. I guess it is 1 death per thousand shots. But I don't think most are ready to absorb those statistics, and no main stream media will touch the news.

Yes. If you look up 'Vaccine Court,' you will see it is we tax payers that take the hit for injuries cause by vaccines in USA. We pay out for their injuries. It's a secret court, by the way, and the payouts per individual are sealed. With the Emergency Use Authorized 'vaccines,' like Covid 19, no one pays for the injuries. If you want to see the current damages, look at Open VAERS here: Open VAERS Looks like Open VAERS is behind, with the last report back in November 8th.

The attenuated oral polio vaccine is given all over the planet, and is the leading cause of polio, today. I was careful to say attenuated (or "live"). Oral polio vaccine causing paralysis in kids: Study

I notice when you are not doing well in a debate, you tend to sign off like this claiming it is all you have to say on the matter. The irony is that you are the one ignoring the rest of the story which is that the attenuated vaccine is now the primary source of the problem.

Yes, they always change the names of things to protect themselves. Same idea with renaming companies, or reorganizations within them. Well, they are giving a live virus that they tried to weaken and it does not work out that they are weakened. Sometimes the whole town is infected because by waste water, for example, from the infected. If you get the flu or Covid, and you survive it and get better; that is the vaccine! The virus you caught IS THE VACCINE.

Sounds plausible. Children's Health Defense is a great resource.

It's not backwards. The attenuated polio vaccine is viable (or "live"), and infections are not insignificant if it causes paralysis. The vaccine is the leading cause of polio, today. It's highly debatable that the vaccine worked, but regardless, it's the main problem now. When your vaccine is causing polio outbreaks, its time to rethink attenuated vaccines.

When I said that we know why C14 fails, I guess I meant the rest of us. Thanks for the chat.

I guess you realize you cannot set the watch in the scenario though you won't acknowledge it. It's the same with the instruments (Spectrometers, Scintillation Counters and Geiger Counters) that are used to allegedly detect date and times of items. It does not matter that 'scientists' say they work, they cannot work correctly because there is a vital piece missing from the formula. So they pretend for grants, and the cause of evolution. We know why C14 does not work just as we know that 2 + 2 does not equal 28. No need looking for a white paper about 'proving it.' It may help to know that if the earth were trillions of years old, C14 would work due to equilibrium and the span of half-life with C14. But it does not work, and the more you go back in time, the more inaccurate because there is no equilibrium.

Presently, the leading cause of polio is the polio vaccine. The attenuated polio vaccine causes it.

So, you are going to set the watch using C14. Interesting.

None of the hundreds of dating methods work, because you cannot calibrate them to time, nor convert isotope values to time, just like C14. If you were lost in a cave and found a Rolex watch, and wound it, and it worked; how would you set it to the right time without a reference like the sun, or a radio channel telling you the time, and so on? You can't. So in summary, the Rolex is precision and will very accurately count out the seconds, but you cannot set the time because you have no reference. It is the same with the instruments used to 'date' items: no way to set them. Don't just plaster links. Read what I said, and answer the question.

The reason Carbon dating does not work is there is no equilibrium in C14 production versus decay. For it to correctly work, the planet must have equal production to decay. Because there is no equilibrium, the further back you go the more inaccurate the readings would be because there is less C14 production in the past. It would actually appear that things were much older, because there is more C14 today than in the past. Oh, and I say trillions of years because it might as well be. No methods work because they cannot calibrate the instruments to anything. I left some Ar/Ar isotope readings here once, and asked all of you to go ahead and convert those isotope readings to time. None of you did, including you. I guess that is because it the method is entirely made up.

C14 seems to never work if you actually know the true date of something being tested, before hand. That is partly why samples get tossed out. They don't get tossed out if you don't know the true date, and are then assumed accurate. The reason C14 dating does not work is that the world has never reached an equilibrium of C14 production in the atmosphere, versus decay, and that means the earth is less that 30,000 years old. I think a lot less. Never mind that diamonds contain C14, though they are supposed to be trillions of years old. The half-life of C14 is 5730 years, so diamonds cannot be that old, either.

I don't have the time to waste on this anymore. I appreciate the chat. If you have other topics in mind, look me up, but this one is pointless.

You are applying modern vocabulary to ancient writing, but in this case none of the words differ much but they also don't imply an Earth that contained prior life nor structures. They imply an earth without resources and uninhabitable; a beginning. That is what Biblical Hermeneutics is about; understanding what they meant when they wrote in those times. In this case, it is God's own writing as none of us was here to see these events to record them (Genesis has 10 authors, and God is the first out of obvious necessity). If you cannot even see the possibility that those ancient translators, scribes and priests knew exactly what they were translating and were right about the the Earths first creation, and you would prefer to rely on 'secret knowledge' and theories, then know that we won't ever agree.

If you mean to say that I don't think your facts are facts, then you have got my reasoning correct. You have not made your case. I don't think all those expert translators, scribes and priests closest to the ancient times all messed up their translations, and that somehow only you have it right based on one word. It's interesting that not even the Septuagint agrees with your assessment and the ancients who wrote the original Hebrew wrote that exacting Greek translation, too. There were no closer translators than the ones who wrote the Greek Septuagint. They were right there at the times of the Hebrew writings and knew both languages of the region.

I cannot take your argument seriously, any longer. Good luck with your Earth II belief, and thanks for the chat.