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17 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Jewel

    Okay great ...so then I will ask again" Maybe you can clarify & tell me ,in your own words ,what you understand "Free Will" to mean? " Of course you don't have to answer if you cannot or just prefer not to.............                                                                 With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

 

I'll use the dictionary definition of free will being the free hand version appears to cause conflict. 

The power of making free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstances or by an agency such as fate or divine will.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 4th Edition

13 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I have just noticed recently that some of the items at my favorite produce store have gone up. My internet bill and my auto insurance has just gone up. A couple of the restaurants have slightly increased their prices. My state recently went to increased minimum wage. Maybe that has something to do with it. Just wondering if you guys have seen it?

Yes, I think minimum wage increase would effect other prices as well. We've not had that happen here yet. 

I don't think that part of the protests for MW increases crosses the mind of the activists. Like those who worked at a McDonald's in one state that I heard about last year. They wanted the minimum wage to go to $16.00 an hour. Big Mac's are ridiculously high now. Can you imagine after that would happen? 

17 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Jewel

     "Free Will" confused with meaning behind choices & decision making? Perhaps you are confused about the difference between predetermination & predestination? Maybe you can clarify & tell me ,in your own words ,what you understand "Free Will" to mean?

   As far as the question you had for One Light....

I agree with him 100% and just to clarify ,he (nor I) would ever challenge anyone's Faith simply because we may disagree on some non Salvational issues,its just not  matter of life & death......when a person says they are a Christian & yet everything they say opposes the Word of God then a red flag goes up it it is not only a matter of life & death but also there is great urgency,no one is guaranteed "later,tomorrow,another day"

  You can say the Bible says the lame man jumped up,sprang up or just stood up & I may believe he "leaped"......it is of no consequence to have misinterpreted because of a different "translation" but no matter how it is translated the Word of God tells us there is but One Way to the Father.....the Way,the Truth & the Life....Christ Jesus

                                                                                                                                                            With love-in Christ,Kwik

 

 

No, I'm not confused by any terms I incorporate into my discussions. 

Retail flux reflects crude prices being Diesel fuel is what transports goods and materials into the market. 

I did notice that my latest property tax bill includes a tax for the local technical college. Not a charge that appeared last year. 

Utility bills remain pretty steady on average per use. Fuel prices are fluctuating by the pennies about every week here. 

A plagiarized science fiction money making cult that harasses and even kills opponents. 

Has anyone watched the Tom Cruise video as yet? He's their most ardent supporter. You Tube has a copy I believe. That man didn't just drink the Kool-Aid Hubbard was spiking. He inserted his own IV and is walking around with a portable IV set to continuous flow.  

Great advice thus far. 

I would seek to make the cross more distinct. And what I presume is a audio headset too. There are images you can find on Google that are licensed to be edited for commercial use. That may help. 
I admire your pursuit and look forward to your final edit and announcement that your endeavor is underway. 

God be with you in this. 

7 hours ago, Spirit Driven said:

aaahhh the Doctrine of Man has Free Will to accept or Reject God ? = Demonic Doctrines warned of in 1 Timothy 4

What is free will? Free will is a doctrine that teaches that man can act independently of God. This should already ring sour to the spiritually-attuned ear. The doctrine of free will teaches that man has the freedom to choose or reject God, never mind the verse that says no man is seeking God (Rom. 3:11).

In other words, in the doctrine of free will, man becomes the deciding factor in his own salvation. Jesus Christ’s work on the cross, according to this doctrine, was only a potential salvation, not an actual one. According to this doctrine, the cross of Christ never saved anybody; the cross only saves those who decide to be saved. What about the verse that says no one can come to the Son unless the Father draws him? (Jn. 6:44). Never mind it. What about the verses that say God is the Savior of all mankind (1 Tim. 4:10), and that the blood of the cross will reconcile all to Him (Col. 1:20), whether those on the earth or those in the heavens? Never mind them. Then what about the verse that says God is operating all things in accord with the counsel of His will? (Eph. 1:11)

 

Yes, it is Gods desire that all would accept salvation, but those who do not have chosen their fate, ummmm I think you need to look a bit deeper

 

 

I can certainly see your point here about free will.  We are told because of our sin we are unable to relate to God's mind. There is a barrier between ourselves and the divine. We are also informed that God predestined all things prior to their creation and that his will is not like unto ours. 

I think what transpires in conversations of this human nature is the failure most times for people who argue we do have free will to define what they believe free will is. 

Very often their defense of free will is confused with the meaning behind choice and decision making. 

1 minute ago, OneLight said:

This depends on what the subject mater is.  When it comes to issues about salvation, you bet.  Other doctrine that has nothing to do with salvation, I try to not comment unless what someone says is really out in left field.

May I ask why you asked?  Do you think scripture can be seen in the light of postmodern ideals, what is true for you may not be true for me, but both are true, or do you believe there is only one truth from scripture?

Thank you.

3 hours ago, OneLight said:

It saddens me when I see someone who claims to be a Christian follow this theology. 

I'd like clarification please. Do you typically challenge a Christian's faith when a Christian opines in a manner you disagree with in matters of scripture and teachings? Thanks.

Islam is a satanic fiction of course. I think it is what Muslims believe that is at issue. For them Isa is Jesus. And Allah is the Arabic term for God. Unfortunately, there are teachers of the words of the Bible that concur with Muslims in that respect. Believing and teaching as they do that we all worship the same God.This is blasphemy and apostasy of course. 

I've heard more than one pastor say if parishioners don't tithe they're not in the will of God. Nor shall they be blessed. 

9 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

Well, some people say, that God is sovereign, and chooses who will come to faith in Him and be saved.

Some say God has allowed people free will, and while He has the right to do what He wants, He chooses to let people make choices about their own destinies, thus delegating things.

Those doctrines, both affirm God's sovereignty, but some might see one or the other as a denial of that.

I appreciate that. Thanks. 

A very good question. I've not heard of those share plans. I have heard of MediShare. I haven't researched it beyond hearing about it on Christian talk radio. 

I found this as a review: http/christianpf.com/christian-health-insurance-alternative/

4 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Thanks for clarifying.  Being the first time seeing one of your posts, I thought it proper to ask.

What scriptures do you think supports Universalism?

I'm sure the evidence the Universalist adduces from scripture is plentiful. For a full citation of scripture you'd have to ask an actual Universalist. 

In my reading I'd say John 17:2 persuades them. As does  Ezekiel 18:4. Certainly I would say  Isaiah 45:23-24 is compelling. And finally I'd say 1 Timothy 2:6 is likely to apply.

14 hours ago, HisFirst said:

So, is it wrong for Christian parents to tell their children not to bring kids into the world because of the state it's in?

Would this be classed as advice or actually sinful?

 

 

Were I the child who's parent said that I'd think they were giving advice based on their own judgment of failings as parents. Thinking their example to me would have passed on the same failings were I to have kids. 

Otherwise, it could be that everyone is entitled to an opinion. It is an individual choice as to what to do with regard to procreation. I think one knows if they're fit for the job or not. And that's the best indicator to proceed or abstain from the pursuit. The most sacred profound choice anyone can make is to choose to be a parent. If someone judges themselves to be unready or unfit for the responsibility I think it best and in the best interest of any child that they choose not to have kids. 

The system is far too populated with children that prove their parents were not ready nor fit to be parents. I think it better to not have any than to have one more that will enter that system. 

4 minutes ago, OneLight said:

You are not clear in the above post, so I have to ask, is this your belief?

It is a school of thought as I said in the beginning. Not my belief or I would have said that too.

I can appreciate people do accept that as true. I think the scriptures support them for it. But it is not my belief.

Question. Would a pet doctrine deny the sovereignty of God? 

19 hours ago, Brittany said:

Universalism is the belief that every man will be reconciled with God eventually - that people don't go to hell (permanently, at least).

I myself am not a universalist, though with reading the Bible, I am finding more support for it (or possible something that just seems to support the doctrine).

So, I'm not making this thread so that I can debate others, but so others can give me their reasoning for being universalist or for not being universalist. So, do you believe in universalism? Why/why not?

This thread is to help me understand more about universalism. I personally will not be debating, though others are free to debate, and I may ask a few questions from time to time.

God bless!

There is a school of thought that teaches God instituted the whole fallen human nature sin archetype. God is omniscient and therefore everything God created in the beginning is predestined and we are living fatefully according to his will and plan. Then God sent himself to alter the rule of birth, sin, damnation, that he instituted in the beginning so as to save the world from its sin. This by those scriptures that say Jesus took the sins of the whole world upon himself on the cross. 

Therefore, that sacrifice assured the whole world to be free of the sin that would find them judged by God and damned after life. And because the lesser consciousness that is limited human nature is incapable of meeting a standard of a higher consciousness. Therefore, because God believed in us he saved the world from its own destructive nature. 

In other words, God believed in us. Therefore it is not necessary for us to believe in Jesus to be saved by the sacrifice that God ordained took the sins of the whole world away forever. 

Because God bestowed the rule concerning sin and consequence. And only he can erase that creation. 

4 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Many times God is said to do the things He permits to be done. God gave Pharaoh the occasion to resist Him and harden his own heart (Exod. 4:21; 9:12; 10:1, 20, 27; 11:10; 14:8; Rom. 9:18), in the same way that the gospel saves or damns, softens or hardens, and makes alive or kills all who hear it today (Rom. 2:4-11; 2 Cor. 2:15-16).

Well, we were wrong then. You've turned your heart to realize it is all God's doing. 
That's good. Because it is true. As the Bible tells us. 

7 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

God sent a plague of the locusts, a plague of darkness, plagues of frogs, flies, all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt, the plague on livestock, the plague of boils, the plague of hail, God even turned the river into blood. 

God the creator of life can take life away and so He took the  firstborn in the land of Egypt. All these things were punishments sent by God. God did not create sickness.

What is the creator of locust, darkness ("I am the darkness and the light") , frogs, flies, the dust of the land from whence the first man Adam was created, lice, livestock, boils, hail, and water in all rivers? 

God hardened Pharaoh's heart making it impossible for Pharaoh to release the Hebrews from their captivity. Pharaoh's refusal was not his own doing. God hardened his heart so that he could do no other. And each time Pharaoh did as God commanded God sent another plague upon all of Egypt. Which effected the Hebrews as well as the Egyptians, save for the killing of first born innocence. Which was offset by the killing of a newborn sheep who's blood satiated God's angel of death so that he would not take the first born of the Hebrews as he did those of the Egyptians. 

God insured Pharaoh could not concede to Moses demands first. And then God sent the plagues upon the people of Egypt because Pharaoh's heart would not let God's people go due to God hardening it first so that Pharaoh could not let his people go.

Do you know why God did this? 

2 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Plagues and the hardening of Pharaoh's heart, all these things were punishment by God, nothing to do with God creating sickness. And no, I'm not angry with anyone?

God created the sickness that was delivered as punishment. 

http://aleteia.org/blogs/the-daily-catch/one-man-devotes-53-years-to-building-a-cathedral-by-hand/

There's a video too. I love architecture. Ancient structures and especially what is found in Europe is breathtaking. This is truly an inspiring story of devotion and commitment to the glory of God. A structure that reminds people the divine can manifest in the creative imagination that makes his artwork appear on earth in all ways. 

9 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Show us ONE SCRIPTURE from any chapter in the entire Bible where it is stated God created sickness,

You sound quite angry in your remarks to MissMuffet. 

Have you forgotten the plagues that God set upon Egypt that God set upon all of Egypt? The first born of the Hebrew's house would have suffered death had God not instructed a lamb's blood be painted on the doorway of the Hebrew houses so that God's death angel would pass over and not take those innocent lives too. 

And all these plagues befell after Gods hardening the Pharaoh's heart so that he would refuse Moses command on God's behalf to set the Hebrew slaves free. 

On 2/1/2017 at 2:44 AM, Heavenunlimited said:

According to John Todd. There are 39 major illnesses (doctors say it) that are controlled by several demons and he mentioned the names for deliverance! How ALL illnesses are under demons! 

If this is true Mr.Todd should be able to give the names of those doctors. 

I very much enjoy Biblehub for reading and understanding commentary as relates to scripture. 

The site there says that this particular verse is wanting in traditional Greek MSS. In my opinion that's telling me that it isn't meant to be understood because it is not of God. http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_john/5-7.htm