4 minutes ago, Davida said:

Yes! I the winter place unripe tomatoes in that bag with a ripe apple and your tomatoes will ripen. 

This is true. Thank you for adding that.

I love organic fresh tomatoes on a greens salad. Add crumbled Feta.

4 minutes ago, Davida said:

It's high in fiber anyway. lol

lol This is true. 

Here's a helpful hint but some may know about it anyway. You can save money buying bulk bags of popping corn. Then go to a dollar store and buy a pack of brown paper bags. Like is sold for school lunch bags. Pour in a cup of the popping corn and pop for the same amount of time as you would commercial bagged popping corn. Just roll the end of the brown paper bag shut real tight first.

Did you buy fruit that isn't quite ripe. Maybe that apple that feels like a baseball? Put that in a brown paper bag, roll the bag shut, place in the window so the sun hits the bag and the fruit will ripen. Check it the next day and see if it  is ready. If not leave for a day. Check the next day after.

4 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Does popcorn count as a fresh veggie?

It's corn. Popped corn. Yes, it counts as a veggie. At least in my pantry it does.

 

 

 

 

 

That's the trick . Make it last.  

27 minutes ago, a tryer said:

make you yogurt bro, easy as, perhaps you haven't time

 

That would be right brother. And, I enjoy keeping Stoneyfield in business. Cow's can't be put out of a job. Moo American!

My freezer is full of bags of frozen fruits. On a hot summer day I open a bag and pop a mouthful of strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, that I have mixed in many of those bags, into my mouth. The immediate rush of cooling sensation is soothing and yet invigorating to a body that thinks it is going to perish for the heat outside. I let them melt to softness and then chew slowly to enjoy the juices that flow. Glorious.
Add them to a tub of vanilla yogurt, my favorite being all natural Stoneyfield vanilla, and the texture differences make for a very happy breakfast. Just a to share here. Don't fall for the new marketing label of "Greek" yogurt. Stoneyfield, for instance, has a "Greek Yogurt" label line that will often sit side by side with the regular tubs in the fridge section of a grocery.
It's a rip in marketing for dollars because all yogurt is Greek. The Greeks invented yogurt. God bless them for that. Really.

It does my heart good that the member saints here at Worthy are challenging those who are dedicated to condemning the Orthodox faith. In so doing the saints give cause for those committed to demonstrate they know nothing , in their own words as proof, about the Orthodox Christian faith.

Praise God!

For those who would review this thread discussion to this point and take what is said by people here, the opponents of Orthodoxy and those who know we are defending our brothers and sisters in Christ, I would suggest if the time was spent to learn about the Orthodox faith as much as is spent demonstrating no knowledge as some have and continue to, this new schism among the members of Worthy Christians would be averted.

Case in point, one might wish to visit an Orthodox Christian website that hopes to teach what is believed. This way the falsehoods that have been promoted against the church for the express purpose of excising the Orthodox people from Christ's church would be defeated. If one can take the time to entertain false witness against the church and hope to reason with what knows no reason to learn about Orthodox Christianity they can better identify the false witness. And then see what purpose is behind it.

For instance, there is a falsehood promoted in the world that claims the Orthodox Christian church does not believe in “Scripture alone, faith alone, grace alone, and Christ alone”.

There is a favorite go-to information site for many a Christian known as, "Got Questions". Their entry concerning Orthodox Christianity makes the claim the Orthodox church does not hold to those tenets.

Read closely. No Christian holds to those tenets of isolation. Because they are contradictory and would then make the truth of God and Christ conflicting for the irrationality demonstrated in a simple word with four traits affirmed by and within our faith. "Alone". 

Alone=1.Isolated and lonely. 2.)Indicating that something is confined to the specified subject or recipient

Grace alone.
Grace, by itself?

No, there must be faith alone. So it is said. Right? But faith isn't alone, all by itself. isolated,  because there is Scripture.

Scripture alone?

Without grace, and faith?

No, grace and faith are requisite for the believer in God and Jesus Christ. Oh, well then there's scripture alone. Scripture all by itself?
From whence was scripture born? Through the giving of God and his divine inspiration that spoke to what amounts to over 40 different authors of his holy word. Scripture all by itself?

Alone?

Christ alone? Isolated. By himself? See John 3:16.

Or is it a collaboration instead? That which works first by the grace of God the Father to deliver then His Son Jesus? So that his ministry, purpose, death, burial, resurrection, would deliver the message of redemption. Made possible by God' grace first. So that hearing of Jesus, through the oral tradition in the beginning as was the case when Jesus walked, we would then be blessed to read of it with the invention of the printing press that gave God's truth to the world.

God's scriptures, God's breath. Alone? All by itself?

Or did it have a beginning ? How about, Grace, Christ, Faith, Scripture together? That bring us to the light of the world. So that we who are born into a world of sin are not left to die alone without hope. 

 

Another thing that has been claimed falsely is that the Orthodox do not hold to Imputed Righteousness. Another falsehood easily cast aside with truth if one but takes the time and has the respect for sisters and brothers in Christ to read what they have to say about the faith they have been martyred for more than any other Christians.
 

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God’s “Righteousness”

(Excerpted from full article linked above) "In the Eastern perspective, there is no thought that we must accumulate merits in order to justify ourselves before God, although our faithful often seem (as evidenced in Confession) to feel that if we are to be saved, our good works must outweigh our sins. Nor, on the other hand, is there a denial of the place and importance of good works in Christian life (Ephesians 2:8-10!). Salvation is accomplished by grace in response to faith. But that faith cannot be passive; it must express itself, not merely by confessing Jesus as “personal Lord and Savior,” but by feeding, clothing, visiting and otherwise caring for the “least” of Jesus’ brethren (Mt 25).

What we are saved from is the key issue here. Rather than view salvation primarily as a forensic liberation from guilt through imputed or imparted righteousness, we should see it as incorporation, by baptism, into Christ’s death and resurrection, such that we “die and rise” with Him. Thus we are saved from Death. We are freed from this ultimate consequence of sin and guilt—but only as a divinely bestowed gift of God’s ineffable love, expressed in the suffering death of His Son, a gift to which we respond with faith that issues in love. That response, through the action of the indwelling Spirit, enables us finally to share in Christ’s own resurrection and glorification, attaining what the Greek Fathers call theôsis or “deification” (which means existential participation in God’s life, and not ontological confusion between God and His human creatures).^{[5] "}

 

 

Those interested to learn far more can click that link in the quote box above sourcing the full article on Orthodox teachings and beliefs concerning God's Righteousness and find far more detail on all that is true about the Orthodox tradition. Keeping in mind, Greek Orthodox Christian, Eastern Orthodox Christian, and so forth, are all referring to the same church tradition of Christian Orthodoxy. The Greek, Eastern, etc... preceding the Orthodox title are terms identifying the region in which the parish exists.

For the quick study or those who do not wish to read an entire Orthodox Christian information site there is this shared from the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry or, CARM.

Dictionary of Terms of the Orthodox Church by Matt Slick

Let's take a few other things that have been falsely claimed about our Orthodox brothers and sisters. Remembering that the great schism of 1054 helped to create the many denominations that exist today. And while we all hold to the belief in God, God's grace, Jesus, Faith, and Scripture, and the means of salvation being the cross, how we revere God, worship, celebrate the Holy Spirit, are unique to the churches, denominations. Imagine! Having how we give praise to God condemned as that which "proves" we are not Christians . When the heart of the Gospel is believed by all. And especially tragic is when we are slaughtered for believing in God and Jesus and there are those who would say while we deserve false pity, we did not die deserving to be called Christian!

 

A few excerpts from the Dictionary above so as to quickly put right the false information circulating against Orthodoxy on the Net.

Born Again--"translated literally, "born from above." In order to gain eternal life the person must be born again to new life. This new birth is through Jesus Christ in the Mystery of Baptism. This new life is received from the Holy Spirit through the sanctifying waters of baptism."

Faith--"the power given us by Almighty God which enables us to believe what He has revealed to us. Faith is necessary for salvation and must be accompanied by good works, as a sign that one is indeed imbued with faith itself.

Grace--"the name given to the assistance by a loving and compassionate God to those who seek his help. Grace also refers to the mercy of God and his abundant goodwill to men and women of all ages . . . It is this power which sanctifies, gives life and perfects that which is in the church for the benefit of her numbers . . . We must cooperate with his grace . . . if he (who claims the name Christian) does not bear in his heart the conviction that the grace of God, given for faith, is the mercy of God . . . If he does not labor with the aim of receiving the grace of God, first of all through baptism, or if he had it and it departed by reason of his sin, to cause it to return again through repentance, confession, and a self belittling life, and if, in giving alms, fasting and performing vigils, prayers and the rest, he thinks he is performing glorious virtues and good deeds valuable in themselves, the labors and exhausts in vain."

Justification--"the process of God for giving the repentant sinner and making him a righteous person. We are unable to gain justification through good works are human merit, since justification is a free gift of God given to the faithful when they respond to His love and truth. True faith is not just belief but a sincere commitment to Christ which is shown forth by works of righteousness.

Salvation--"the term used to describe deliverance from sin and death, union with Christ and abiding with God forever in eternity. Salvation is a process from Baptism until death. It is not an instant movement of "being saved" by pronouncing a simple formula of trust in Jesus as personal Savior. We are saved through faith, a gift from God, but our salvation must show itself in works of righteousness. We gain the grace of salvation through the Mysteries of the Church. St. Paul refers to "working out" once salvation in "fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12)."

Scripture and Tradition--"these are not to be understood as complementary or conflicting authorities in Orthodoxy. The Church does not accept the idea of "autarkeia" or "Sola Scriptura." Orthodoxy sees Holy Scripture was a product of, or fruit, of Tradition. God, in fact does not speak to the Bible alone, since the Fathers were witnesses to the early faith, and along with the liturgy, creed, and decrees of the faith transmit divine Truth to all believers. The Orthodox Church teaches us that the books of the Bible are based on a huge body of oral tradition whose limits are not able to be defined."

 

This I set here because another false claim is made about the Orthodox. That they worship idols. This is false.

Icon--"a painting on wood or other material representing our Lord, the All Holy Virgin, saints, or events in their lives. Icons are produced in all sizes, and may be portable or stationary, e.g., painted on a wall or on iconostasis . . . Orthodox churches are replete with icons and the first action of any believer upon entering the sanctuary will be to reverence the Holy Table by bowing in front of the Holy Doors, and then the icons of our Lord and the Mother of God, and the various saints . . . icons are to be honored and venerated but never worshiped, for that is something reserved for God alone."

If we remember the books of the New Testament named for what is believed to be the Apostles who walked with our Lord, we honor their testimony and recollection of Jesus words in his ministry. We recognize Paul, who was beheaded, martyred, for his preaching of God's truth through Jesus Christ.

Do we worship Paul?

Of course not. Icon's help in a visually inclined society where words bring visual imaginings of what the word is, defines, depicts in reality or imagining. Icon's do the same when there were no camera's present in first century A.D. . Jesus died on the cross. Do any hear wear a cross on a chain?

Jesus spoke in parables which are poems.Often repeating those familiar to the Jews who followed him for being that like unto what were read to them from the Hebrew sacred scrolls in Temple. Remember, Jesus did teach in the Temple. He knew the Hebrew Bible by heart because his Father gave it to us then. As he did that which Christians use now.

The Bible is written with simile, a figure of speech designed to deliver vivid imagery of the message. It is also written using allegory, which is a teaching method delivering a story, a poem, intended to reveal a hidden message , visualization, in the wording. The Bible also incorporates metaphor. Metaphor is a figure of speech which makes an implicit, implied or hidden comparison between two things that are unrelated but share some common characteristics.

Therefore, don't be misled to think Orthodox Christians worship idols when they have never done so. I do not worship the cross that hangs as a tiny wooden pendant about the leather thong about my neck. It reminds me when I feel it against my flesh that I exist as one reborn and my sins covered by the blood that covered the actual cross when Rome crucified the Savior of the world our Holy Spirit Father by his grace sent to be born into the world. And die for the sins of the world taken upon himself on the cross.

It is in the spirit of that sacrifice that I write this hugely long post so as to pray it help deliver even one member here from what is intending to mislead the whole of Worthy from the truth of the heart of Orthodox Christianity. The heart of their faith is God, grace, Jesus, Faith, Scripture, Repentance, Redemption, Baptism, Regeneration, Confession, as we're told to do when we sin, though those are not held against us because we now have an advocate on our behalf in the form of Jesus in Heaven unto the Father.

Why don't we strive to live in community? Rather than permit ourselves to be cleaved by that which hopes to fracture the truth of God in Jesus Christ.

Learn the history of the Orthodox church. The Apostle John-Mark founded what today is called the Eastern Orthodox church. Tell me, which one of you would say, John-Mark did not know Jesus? Then why would you follow that which does not know Orthodox Christianity? Yet hopes you will believe them and turn against the oldest church on God's Earth?

Laus Deo ,

J.

 

1 Peter 3:9 Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.

 

 

I've seen such trespasses on these boards. And yet brother, do not the tares and thorns grow hungrily among the wheat when the tiller is lax to raise his hand and clear them away?

The missionary field corrupted by the thorns that focus on one area of field and germinate a creeping thorn bush intent on repeatedly sprouting buds intent on obliterating that fields bounty. Implying by its presence that that particular ancient strain of wheat is not worthy of being called wheat. Even when it precedes all hybrids that are born from it.

What then does the flesh that maintains the field as Holy Spirit sealed tiller responsible for the health of the crop caring for a field within which is represented many many genus of wheat example if the seeders of the tares and thorns gain access and flourish in planting corrupt seed? Keeper of the whole of the crop that is planted for the health and nourishment of the harvest come. That responsibility assumed as volunteer to oversee and take action for the sake of the entire bountiful land of wheat. That which is just germinating, that which is fully bloomed and that which is first seed and ancient in its rooting in soil trod by our Lord and Master Immanuel.

What then of that one that enters in the dark of night and seeks to set the tares beside the crop of the ancients. Cultivate hungry thorn bushes that creep and consume the health of the stalks of grasses fed by the eastern Son. And when enough has been planted and spread and germinated to overcome that parcel of land, that dark flesh that entered in the night to begin the seeding returns in hopes of what? Gathering the bushels of unhealthy plantings? Or rather escalating to setting fire to the crop of wheat, tares, and thorns, so as to burn down the entirety of the missionary land? That grows fallow for the wheat that is carried away on the winds of change. Perhaps that was the purpose of the trespasser in the darkness who planted seed intending to bring thorns in to overcome the first crop of the east.

What then is a missionary field when its soil lay fallow? And burnt.

John 15:1

 

6 hours ago, Yowm said:

I'm glad Paul didn't take that attitude with the Church at Corinth which was messed up morally, pridefully, selfishly and every which way. Instead he knew God's grace was greater still and could overcome sin. Thus he addressed them as saints...

1 Corinthians 1:2 KJV
[2] Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

1 Corinthians 1:30 KJV
[30] But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

 

 

 

Romans 12:10 Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.

What a glorious observation and recollection to bring into this discussion brother. Thank you.

May the words of our beloved brother Paul herald a change of heart for the saints that do not speak as saints of saints when speaking of members of the eastern church.
Paul's letters to the church in Corinth Greece is a mighty sending of our Savior in these troubled times here. Thank you again.

God's blessings, J.

 

 

1 Thessalonians 5:12-13 We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves.

9 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Those who partake of His work in evil places still need to find rest in Him.  It is when people think they can last forever, or have the strength to continue when they start to feel the strength begin to have an affect, that evil starts to creep in without notice.  Nobody is above temptation.  Ask Peter when you see him.

There is also a mission field here on the boards where evil has taken hold.  Complacent people are his first target, thinking they are safe when they are not.  They take their eye off Him and wander off on their own into places they choose without His guidance as they begin to listen to their flesh over His all so quiet whispers.  Satan feeds the flesh with as he knows the humans weaknesses, playing with each of us until he knows where the weakest spots are. 

You see, the most evil place there ever will be is in our hearts of flesh.  Scripture tells us that we are created into His image, but that is only true when it is fed by following His will, not our own.

Evil flourishes where it is permitted to find purchase. I take my comfort and my strength always from God's word. The Christian sealed with God's Holy Spirit is equipped in this world. His word tells me in Ephesians 6:11 to put on the whole armor of God, that I may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. And I believe that instruction is there to refer to all who dwell in him.

Evil does not take hold in that one indwelt with the Holy Spirit. How can the Devil and God occupy the same space? The darkness and the light. Were it not for the darkness we would have no awareness of light. Once we are aware of the light, the shadow becomes easier to discern.

We walk in flesh and bone. But we are empowered and protected by the Spirit of Holy God. Missionaries of The Way visit places where evil has taken hold and they seek to lead people willing to find the light out of that darkness.  When the mission field belongs to God how does God's armored warriors of the faith permit evil to enter in? The number of the righteous outnumber the number of the enemy do they not?
 

 

7 minutes ago, a tryer said:

I prayed this week for friends, for everyone has deserted me (save 3 or 4). Thank you J. I am off for a ride now but I sensed you were a man of integrity. You anthropology gift was from God

Be blessed my brother.

7 minutes ago, a tryer said:

agree, it's the distasteful that need the flavour of salt

Amen, indeed.

3 minutes ago, a tryer said:

very true, love sometimes to guide and sometimes to encourage...have the grace of God in one word. i am in a wheelchair and last week I was going to church and got stuck on the on-ramp...lucky day for came by a christian on way to church. He went by say "morning mate"  ...hard not to yell at him!

I would have helped you while bidding you good morning. I would suggest you not feel bad for being upset at that. Remember, even Jesus had a temper.

I run into all sorts in my travels. I'm a people watcher. I sit at outdoor cafe's and feed the squirrels and birds pieces of bread or seeds and I enjoy watching how we of the human community interact with one another in relative comparison to the squirrels and birds at my feet. It's an interesting comparison.

Squirrels and birds will flap and dart one among the other seeking out the bread and seed. When they find a patch of plenty they'll sit together and eat at their leisure. No one of the bird or squirrel being greedy or offensive to another. They share the large area of sustenance and each has their own little bounty before them. Side by side bird and squirrel feast in peace.

But watch the people at the cafe as they enjoy their finger sandwiches and drink. Packages purchased at the boutiques nearby rest in decorative bags at their feet. They have money because those shops sell very expensive things.

A homeless man digging in the garbage bin near a coffee shop hoping to quench his thirst with someone's discard. Perhaps sate his hunger with the sliver of bread thrown from a sandwich into the rubbish. Let that vagrant who's so desperate to survive approach any one at those tiny outdoor cafe tables and see the comparison between the mannerism of squirrels and birds disappear as human meets human. Those that have and those that have not.
Name calling, accusations like, get away, what's wrong with you? You stink. Take a bath. Get a job!

The calloused hands tremble, the tired eyes that have seen far too much at any age, but especially when looking to spend another night in a cardboard box in an alley well up with tears. He's just been told he has no right to ask for help to exist.

Pray for that one that did not see you needed help up the ramp brother. There's hope in his heart when at least from his mouth he bid you good morning. Not everyone see's what is there needing to be seen. But that they see something at all is a blessing that says there's hope for next time.

May God keep you in his protection, bless you with his strength, and bring peace to you always,

J.

14 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Keep in mind that a spirit becomes what the spirit is fed.  If a person hangs in places where the spirit is evil, they are feeding their spirit evilness.  Our amour becomes heavy and weak if we do not replenish our spirit with His Spirit.  When that happens, and we do not find rest in Him in order to continue His purpose for us, we become what we feed ourselves, just like our enemy.

 

I wouldn't agree with that in its entirety. Certainly those who are not in Christ will absorb darkness when they let themselves endure dark places.
But what of the sisters and brothers who are missionaries in dangerous places? Those countries that are hostile to our faith? Especially in the early centuries when for instance Jesuit brothers would enter into ancient Japan and minister the word of the Christian God.

That very dark place wherein the Japanese authorities would torture those missionaries for daring to speak the truth of our Lord Christ did not turn those brothers dark. They gave their lives as martyrs so as to deliver the light of truth to a fallen people.

Those missionaries that enter into any hostile pagan lands to this day. They live among the people , maintain their resolve to bring the good news to tribes, and cultures, that do not have this. That environment does not turn them dark. It inspires their resolve ever more to bring the light does it not?

25 minutes ago, a tryer said:

I like your manner. sorry I refer to the body, who are we to judge our brother?

Does not John 7:24 tell us we should not judge by appearance but use righteous judgment? We know ourselves to be able to stumble and err in our walk. How are we to recognize when we do so if we do not have sincere members of the church to share righteous judgment and help guide our steps when we may not notice we stumble?

There is a manner in which the brethren share the love of Christ and keep and guide one another to walk in the light. From a place of love is where we are to be in community with one another.

3 minutes ago, a tryer said:

are you really thinking about the interaction on forums bro?

I am speaking of the church brother. Wherever we may be found. Jesus taught us to discern who are in Christ among the peoples of the world. Did he not?

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Christians do build their brothers and sisters up.

Acts 20:28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.

5 hours ago, Davida said:

 Never the Twain Shall Meet

What?_________________________

 

Thank you sister for promoting the Apologetics forum and the history of the denominations post that I made there. It is unfortunate that it has received so little positive feedback concerning the actual true history of the Eastern Orthodox . And the Great Schism that is responsible for the denomination so many of us know today. Especially when the opposite of its truth is made popular by attention that darkness invites.

God's blessings,

J.

I think there is enough evidence in these forums to speak the truth of what has been observed about a campaign against fellow Christians.

No one is misframing what is posted for all who care to seek it out to read for themselves. In fact, while I have not commented in the many threads that are being generated here to assail Christians, this particular excerpt that she posted rebuffs any claim that animus is not at work in this community.

Taken from the quote box in Danger Noodle's post. "Firstly, we would like to apologize on behalf of Protestants everywhere for overlooking the grave and damning heresies of the Eastern Orthodox tradition, compared to our stalwart protest of Rome."

The author of that work believes himself qualified to speak for Protestants everywhere. I assure you, I respond to this thread because he shall never speak for me.

He knows nothing of the Eastern Orthodox tradition that much is clear when he calls their faith in practice heretical. What is heretical is to violate the tenets of our Lord Christ while assuming the mantel of pastor that which God says shall stand at the judgment and answer to a higher standard than the average member of the faith.  The teachings on love being vacant in that which targets and attacks Christians and seeks to invite ridicule and animus against them. Again and again.

When someone assaults the Eastern Orthodox, the first church in history after that of Christ and his ministry, the example brought forth as a man of God, pastor,  is subject to review by those who are in Christ and are children of God.

There is a great responsibility in being a Christian. The first not to be ignored is to behave as one.

 

9 hours ago, Danger Noodle said:

This is a beautiful post. But have you noticed brother? It is not paid attention to at all. Eight views, not a single comment.

Meanwhile, threads that breed bigotry and hatred against the first denomination in first century and against a public persona who's been on the air for decades, flourish with hatred, seeking to seed divisiveness in the community of Christ all across the Net. That which is not in the spirit publishes articles attacking the Copts hoping to gain ignorant followers to pass his slander along the Web. 

We live in a fallen world brother. If we ever have doubt the spirit that is lord of this world will afford us the opportunity of reminder.

 

 Thank you so much for sharing this. It will educate those who are in Christ. And it shall damn those who are liars and expose their ignorance and black heart across the Net for being found in search engines. BEAUTIFUL! 

Just so you know, I'm going to copy the part about the first church, the Copts, and knock the devil right between the eyes. Those that have the eyes to see shall see. Those that never did shall appear.
God bless you for bringing what is long overdue to the attention of Christians here. 

Thank you sister.  Truth will always overcome the enemy of it.

Don't let darkness fill you when you encounter it.

Darkness seeks to overcome the world. Remember? It even sought to destroy God's first and most perfect creation in his garden paradise. It failed when God sent his beloved Son to overcome the darkness. To enter into life , to walk as one of us and yet as God with us. And he was condemned for his teachings when he was a Jew. And by fellow Jews! Remember? The Sanhedrin court that called him to answer for his miracles. He healed the blind, he made the lame to walk. He cast demons out of the afflicted and was even charged then with the accusation that he'd used demons to do so. That does not even ring as making sense. But that was the accusation against the perfect Savior of this world.

Jesus Christ was a Jew! And he was accused of not being a righteous Jew by fellow Jews. Do you see the reflection of that past wickedness with today and what we are discussing here? Jews turned against the greatest Jew of history. As has been said, Christianity is the religion about Jesus. Judaism was the religion of Jesus. And yet, there were Jews who said he was false and of the devil.

Take heart because God see's all things. His word tells us he calls those whom he knew before he created this world to his son. He knew them, he knew us, before we entered our mother's wombs. He also knew Satan when he appeared in the garden as that sneaky serpent. He knew him when he tempted his only Son Jesus while Jesus was in his fast in the desert. No one keeps a secret from God.

Don't ever let that which hopes as it did in the desert to lead Christ from his truth to lead you from your grace and charity sister. Fear not because if you do find cause for anger that is not the same as being led from the spirit Jesus and God's Holy Spirit instills in you as one sealed with that power. Because even Jesus was angry when he hand fashioned a whip and went after the money changers , fellow Jews, who had their tables in front of his Father's house.

If you find yourself upset by the wickedness of this world that seeks us out because we are of God turn to God's advice. Sixty-six books worth will help any Christian through this perilous life.

1 John 2:9 Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.

And especially timely and poignant I think is this, Immanuel, God with us, own words in John 13:34&35,  "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

 1 John 4:20, "If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen."
 

God's blessings,

J.

On 4/19/2017 at 7:27 PM, JoshuasonFlower said:

I'd think if the USDoS gave monies to north Korea that there would be something on the U.S Department of State daily press briefings for January 2017.Which if this did occur, tax payer monies being sent to north Korea in early January or the week before Donald Trump was sworn in on January 20th that there would be something in the January daily press briefings to that effect. I found nothing there. https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/index.htm

Nor is there anything relative to monies sent to north Korea in the Special Briefings area at USDoS.All special briefings archive there ends in December 2016.  https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/sb/index.htm#January

I'd think if this is something the press learned there would be something from the USDoS to that effect.

 

I thought this may be helpful for the current concern.

U.S Department of State

Briefing on the Situation on the Korean Peninsula

Special Briefing

Susan A. Thornton
Acting Assistant Secretary, Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs

Via Teleconference

April 17, 2017

 

On 4/20/2017 at 10:51 AM, Danger Noodle said:

 

That has not a thing to do with this topic you realize. 
It is a valid point. The so called reporting on this about north Korea and the State Department would necessarily have something linked to the State Department. Otherwise, how does the media outlets get the news when claiming the State Department did this and that, if not from the State Department? 

 

 

24 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

How can a question on what you called an off-topic remark be "directly on-topic"?

 

 

I want to address this back and forth before it continues to go further sideways.

Danger Noodle was referring to your early on off topic remark that followed my post concerning the question about the State Department site. Then she opined about that post that I made. It was a valid question and it was directly and remains directly on topic with the original posting concerning the SD and north Korea.

I hope that helps to stop this derailing that you insist on pursuing in your remarks to DN , OldSchool.

God's Blessings,

J.

2 hours ago, Eha said:

you may thank Father - He did stand on, that i post it here

thank you for kindness

We who are in the hand of Christ and the heart of God recognize when the spirit of truth speaks. I do thank the Father. And I thank God that he sent another member of the universal church his Son began to count as one more among our number. God's blessings to you .

J.

I would like to suggest that we stay on topic and not be derailed by that effort that is appearing to thwart that intention.

To continue.

The U.N Security Council appears to have finally taken notice of north Korea's actions.

VOA News UN Security Council Blasts N. Korea Missile Test, Threatens Sanctions

Related documents:

UN Documents for DPRK (North Korea)

7 hours ago, Eha said:

God - "I cant change, what you did. But I can clean you from that sin."

When my first week with Father end, whole week or so i did ask questions about everything - life , world, wonders, mysteries, Bible, me and so on, i did start study Bible with Him.
i remember very clear how He did explain me Bible, about quote with stones, altar and why Father told, - dont change stones. 
but just lately i did remember, what did happen after.
when we did talk about "come to God as you are", i did remind something, i did wrong.


when i told Father - forgive me , that i did it wrong.
Father told me - I cant change, what you did. But I can clean you from that sin. DONT TELL ME, WHAT YOU DID, TELL ME - WHO YOU ARE! THAT MEANS "COME AS YOU ARE"

its a big difference. its easy to say - oh! sorry i did stole yours bag!
but try to say - forgive me, im a thief, i did stole yours bag.

its a big difference. and its truth. it hurt, but it is only way, let Father to clean you - ADMIT TRUTH, NOT ONLY SIN, YOU DID COMMIT.

again my kids were those, who needed that lesson and Holy Spirit did remind me, why i always ask forgiveness, who i am, not only, what i did. i forgot reasons and lesson and how i did get there, as many other things, i know now, but forgot, why..

i am glad, Holy Spirit did remind me that lesson. and i am glad i can share it. 

 

God's blessings that you deemed us worthy of your precious testimony. I have in my years grown more and more adept at watching what happens in my life and how if I take the time I see God, Father as you say, delivering an opportunity to put his wise teachings into action. 
We can read the Bible all day long but if we do not glean the message there, the instructions there for incorporating those parables, idioms, allegory, into our own lives, we miss the point. And the Bible then serves as just a book. Which is not meant to happen for those who are members of God's church.

Thank you again for sharing.

16 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

It is excellent testimony  to never be alone in a situation where either self delusion, or the enticement by Satan may cast it's seed, or flourish in any manner. 

David first sinned the sin of not following God's command to him. He set himself up to be in position  to be enticed, and David soon sinned mightily.

See https://bible.org/seriespage/19-david-s-downfall-2-samuel-11-24 

David was denying God's instructions from the beginning- that set up the final snare. Be about the battle at all times. Never take the small pleasures that relax the defenses and invites disaster. Like David, we may father sin whose consequence harms even entire nations and bends History through to eternity.

 It is the simple things failed at, that lead to the big errors that humiliate  and shame us. So never even just once relax from the rules known to protect self and others from the nasty consequence of sins thoughts and actions.

A great example there brother of the appearance of evil and even beyond as King David's lust for another man's wife corrupted his focus on God and righteousness.

Taken from that Bible.org site article,

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This story reminds me of the account of David’s sin with Bathsheba in our text. To David, his actions on that fateful spring night seemed trivial, just a momentary pause in an otherwise pious life. The consequences, however, were devastating, not just for David, or for Uriah, but also for David’s family and the entire nation. The whole nation paid a high price for David’s immorality.