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37 minutes ago, other one said:

I've seen that same thing more than once over the years    But it does bother me that people don't take the holiday seriously.

It's not a holiday to be taken serious!  

9 hours ago, Davida said:

 I hate Halloween , it is not a Godly day, some of us know it is not just about candy some don't.  Our church has one of those candy parties & games for the children. I loathe so much that the world loves , really , so ready to leave this wretched place.  I pray Maranantha Lord quickly!  

I love Halloween, it's such a Godly day, it's all about the candy and dressing up like Christians.  I loath so much that Christians hate so much.  I pray the Lord returns soon too.  But!  Are you gong to be in denial when you're still here and the world looks like hell instead of halloween!!

2 hours ago, fayec said:

For starters, the "little horn that waxed exceeding great", in Daniel, and "BABYLON THE GREAT" in Revelation,  represents AMERICA.

The "ten kings out of the fourth kingdom" in Daniel 7:24, and in Revelation 17:12  represents European Americans.

The little, not America.  The little horn comes from the geographical area of the ancient Grecian Empire.

You are welcome to show me WHY you believe this.  As of now, you're just telling me WHAT you believe.

'Babylon the Great' isn't difficult.  It means, "A Large False religion."   ISLAM!

2 hours ago, fayec said:

(the King James)

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."  (1 John 2:18)

"And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already is it in the world." (John 4:3)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2nd John 1:7)

So what's your point?

8 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

If it isnt for Christ it is against Christ.  JW is a cult! Sin is iniquity.  

Which btw, there you go again with the name calling! 

What is it about JW that's a cult?  That they have things right about the trinity and you don't?

5 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

If it isnt for Christ it is against Christ.  JW is a cult! Sin is iniquity.  

Which btw, there you go again with the name calling! 

The last Catholic service I went to my friend Dennis presided.  We went to Catholic school together and his education is through the roof.  He's a good man who believes in Jesus Christ with all his heart, and you condemn him.  Then we have some on the forum who say when you condemn Catholicism, you're not condemning people.  I guess Catholic school was better than public school.

2 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

If it isnt for Christ it is against Christ.  JW is a cult! Sin is iniquity.  

Which btw, there you go again with the name calling! 

What name calling?  It's OK for you to condemn over a billion Catholics, riiight?

21 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

You dont seem to understand that telling the truth to  those who are perishing is not condemning but it is warning them before they die in their demonic faith!  

You don't see your judgmentalism.  You assume Catholic's are perishing, but they believe in Jesus' death and resurrection just as much as any Protestant. You don't know who is perishing and who is not.  If you were talking about Islam or any of the other major religions, yes they are perishing.  If you don't know the definition of anti-Christ, you accuse and condemn a church of over 1 billion people.  That's why I can't stand you guys.

16 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

Oh so pleasing your flesh and insulting Christians is the right thing to do?  You dont even know what I meant! LOL

It wasnt the same. You defend religions that are antichrist. Christians defend the faith. BIG DIFFERENCE.

What you said was against the TOS. I guess you got away with saying what you did because it isnt in my quote anymore  and you are on this thread. 

You don't know what anti-Christ is.  Catholicism, JW'S, SDA'S are not anti-Christ, though I know how good it makes you feel to build your arogant self up by tearing them down.

57 minutes ago, Davida said:

That is a very personal and judgmental.  I wouldn't expect anything else from you.   

Well think about what you're saying about people who are brothers and sister in Jesus Christ.  I know people of all Christian faiths and plenty of Catholic and JW'S.  I don't condemn them, they don't condemn me.  I don't question their salvation, and I don't tell them they're going to hell.  Talking bad about Catholicism is slandering a religion where many people found Jesus Christ, and many people I know.  You should be more focussed on taking up the challenges I put up to you.  Like the many questions you've never answered, and the many verses I asked you to Quote to support what you believe.

If I asked for scriptural evidence to support what bad things you've said about Catholicism, and especially how the Pope is going to be instrumental in creating a new religion, would you be ready to do it?  The list of evidence I've found in the bible about the Islamic anti-Christ, his Islamic false prophet, Koran, and his Muslim followers, AND the limited region of his empire, is long and evidence enough for me to believe what I do.

56 minutes ago, Blueyedjewel said:

 

Just fleshin' it out again? 

Of course, it's the right thing to do.  I'll go edit that.  It wasn't right for me to say it because I'm doing the same thing I'm againsts.

2 hours ago, Davida said:

What I see as even far worse to then the False doctrines the RCC perpetuates upon the innocent spiritual seekers is those " Christians "who self-righteously attack those who speak out against the RCC in efforts try to Shut us up from Speaking out against the False doctrines.  Who would defend that??  This is serious blindness and hypocrisy because what they accuse others of they are guilty of as they love to judge us and slander us all the while they protect the  Roman Catholic Church and its Mariology-&  mary the redemptrix, prayers to dead saints, heretical unbiblical teachings, & unbiblical mass rituals.  Seems like aiding and abetting the apostasy of Roman Catholic Church. 

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 How can they defend the RCC when  statements made at large public events by Pope Francis obviously are speaking opposite to the Bible? 

Maybe you should look at some of your own statements.  I don't know why I tolerate Christians. 

6 hours ago, Davida said:

The Roman Catholic Church is NOT a person and it doesn't possess a heart!  It is a RELIGIOUS Institution that is a mix of Christology and Paganism that writes it's own Doctrines & possesses it's own rituals that are Contrary to what the BIBLE teaches.

I find more heart in most Catholics than I do Protestants.  Protestants are way to quick to judge.  Most Catholic doctrine is similar to Protestant doctrine.  I know you won't admit that.  Also, you may want to research the rituals that were in the early church, the Didache is a good place to start for that.

You are a classic example of a Catholic hater/basher.

8 hours ago, Davida said:

Guess what?  "People Across the World who look at the "Pope" as the symbol of Christianity."  Well, they are Wrong!  

The Lord JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY Symbol of Christianity --Period! 

Well maybe they're not wrong.  Maybe it's you that's wrong in assuming unbelievers would think like you.  Catholics believe in Jesus Christ too.

27 minutes ago, Teditis said:

I personally know plenty of ppl, who as children, went trick or treating and turned out to be fine, upstanding Christians.

It didn't harm them in the least.

Halloween won't hurt you anymore tha a couple of Twinkies.  

1 hour ago, Sister said:

other one

I have "The Book of Enoch" (containing 5 sections /108 chapters) H.R. Charles Oxford:

and

"The Secrets of Enoch" (containing 68 chapters) From "The Forgotten books of Eden" by Rutherford H. Platt, Jr., [1926]

They both harmonise, and do not contradict.  They both speak about Jesus, his coming, salvation of the saints, hell, creation, and a deep insight into the world of the fallen angels, and their hybrids which matches with Genesis 6.

 

So which book is 1Enoch?

 

Also Enoch wrote 366 books.  I don't know how many chapters make a book, or if each different topic and vision is considered a book? 

So it appears there are books missing.

Are the books I mentioned above the only ones available?

 

3 He wrote all these signs of all creation, which the Lord created, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books, and handed them over to his sons and remained on earth thirty days, and was again taken up to heaven on the sixth day of the month Tsivan, on the very day and hour when he was born.  

The Secrets of Enoch, Ch LXVIII.

 

Many books weren't accepted in the bible because of some very petty reasons.  Enoch

13 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

As far as "The Book of Enoch" or any other "inspired" book that is not in the Bible goes: if the Lord wanted them as part of Scripture, He would have made sure of it.

And people accuse the Pope of being infallible.  

If the devil wanted to keep them out, he probably succeeded.

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You're right, those actual terms are not found in the end-time prophecies, but there are countless metaphors and code words used in Daniel and Revelation to describe America and the European Americans.

Show me what they are.  I'm not saying I completely disagree, just wondering if MAYBE we see the same thing.

43 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

So your different how?

I different in that I'm not slandering or condemning people.  I'm gripping about people demonizing and condemnig others and accusing them and the church itself of horrible things like attributing all the evils of the man of sin to the Church of Jesus Christ  t drives me nuts to see Protestants come up with such mis-information and think nothing of it.  I'm not condemning people, I'm not saying Christianity is the religion of the anti-christ, I'm nt saying Trinitarians are condemned.  I'm not digging dirt to China over Catholicism.  I can't help it that there are millions of Christians misled into believing slander and badmouthing is good for the church.  I hate to talk bad about people talking bad about Christianity.  I hate that Christianity is shrinking and Islam is growing.  But that's the way it is, and that's the way the devil wants it.

So what am I doing different?  This right here...

Catholics say....

It is not an enemy who taunts me—

I could bear that.

It is not my foes who so arrogantly insult me—

I could have hidden from them.

Instead, it is you—my equal,

my companion and close friend.

What good fellowship we once enjoyed

as we walked together to the house of God.

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The pronouns "he", "him", and "his", are most often used to depict one man, but they can also be used to depict a whole race of man.  Wouldn't you agree?

Show me where!  And, there are easy ways to determine whether something is literal or fifurative, wouldn't you agree?

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No, I'm NOT willing to change my mind!  The writers of the newer versions of the Bible simply ADDED "the" in front of the term "antichrist" in 2 John :18.   I don't need to remind you that there's a price to pay for adding to the scriptures.

That's because "I was wrong" just doesn't exist in a Christian's vocabulary.

Did you look at the interlinear?  The article was removed in the KJV and that's why many translations are worded, "the anti-Christ (singular) shall come."

The first word for anti-Christ is singular, and the word the 'THE' has been OMITTED by the KJV and others..

5 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said:

Try the Website "Breaking Israeli News," which is definitely NOT a Protestant site.

There are a host of Catholic bashing web sites.  I can look at it but what's your point, and just what page are you refering to?  How are, "Catholics a practicing Islamic Replacement Theology ."

13 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Is this the pot calling the kettle black?

People across the world look at the Pope as the symbol of Christianity.  Protestants shouldn't talk bad about others in the faith the way they do because it only hurts the cause, not help it.  I came out of the Catholic Church too, and the Protestant's do everything they do to slander IT and a host of other churches, even going to the point of calling T.D. Jakes' Church a cult because he's non-trinitarian when the trinity doctrine is a fabricated CATHOLIC DOCTRINE!  

On 7/29/2017 at 5:15 PM, Rick_Parker said:

Well, since Catholics are practicing Islamic Replacement Theology and Allah is Satan, than I would have to say yes.

I think you need to stop listening to the Protestant bashing of Catholics.  There's not one word of truth in your statement.  But hey, Protestant's love to talk bad about everyone, it's like an old lady in a hair salon.

25 minutes ago, brakelite said:

This is one prime example of the illogical nonsensical interpretations of scripture which paint an absurd, insulting and blasphemous mischaracterization ofGod. 

You do realize dont you that the redeemed also are going to be in the presence of God and angels forever? So the wicked are to be tormented in our presence...forever??!!! Seriously?  And you truly believe that? Such entertainment will be joyful enrich our experience and enhance our appreciation of the love, mercy and grace of God no doubt.

Do you people ever seriously think about what you are saying? Come on all you who claim to know and understand God. How do you reconcile eternal torment with a just God? Think! How do you reconcile eternal torment with a God who has the power and will to eradicate sin from the universe? You seriously believe God plans to immortalize sin? Why? As a reminder of the pain He and His Son went through to take away sin and put down the rebellion? 

Oh right, no chance you would consider any other alternative doctrine on the Biblical punishment of the wicked...only cults like JWs and Adventists believe that way right? Nuh, too proud to consider that they may be reading the Bible correctly and you not. 

Sorry bout the sarcasm, but of all teachings this eternal torment error makes me so angry...because it insults my Savior. GET OVER IT!!! 

The JW'S and Adventist have more right on the issue than you do.  You try to say Hazard mischaracterizes God, but I think he's on the right track.  You can accuse Haz of what you want but it's people on this forum mischaracterizing God by saying HIS Church will produce the anti-Christ that get under my skin.

4 hours ago, Riccardo said:

So you have looked into all possibilities with the term hell, where it originated & what it means or that it may mean something else. 

And the translators are perfectly correct translating the Hebrew word into into hell.  Even though they have not been consistent using the same Hebrew word as hell all the time, & have mistranslated so many other words incorrectly.

Are you seriously saying that the Parable of Lazarus & the rich man is not a parable, but is an actual event & a single drop of water is going to quench the thirst of the rich man.   

 

The parable of Lazarus ISN'T a parable.  Why do I say this?

Whenever Jesus says, "There was a certain,..."

Either there WAS or there WASN'T a certain beggar and rich man.  Jesus said "there was!" So I believe there was!

 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

There's more truth to Hazards reply than you think.