Mike Mclees
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24 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:
Jesus said that to people who were in the Covenant of Sinai and particular address the people who had been a position to uphold and teach the law or having some responsibility as quardians of the things of God...that could apply to the elders and the leaders of the people...does not matter who they were...
Not all of the trusted servants did what this particular servant did...just some of them, as this servant seems to represent others who may have the same mind and attitude as the one pointed out.
Because this example was said within the Sinai Covenant and before the Gospel was preached "the principle of faith in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins is not brought up...and thus the man was judged according to his doing..not upholding the duty of the office he was given to represent...it's like a public servant in our times who abuses the duty of trust that he swear to uphold and gives himself up to corruption and when uncover he was dealt with according to the Law...
Notice that the words spoken to him that from being a vessel of trust now he is spoken of being a vessel of mistrust and abuse and he was name and label as an : hypocrite. And he was stripped from his position infront of all the people and he was dishonor and was cut off from the body of the righteous servants and is label as an hypocrite...
This was said by Jesus Christ to the leaders and teachers of the people and to the public at hand...so when those things will take place the people will get to know not to blindly follow their leaders but to give hid to what the disciples of Jesus Christ had to say to them as in the day of Pentecost when they preached the Gospel to them and when the Holy Spirit had come not only to empower the disciples and the words they delivered to people but also to open the ears and open the eyes of those who heard the Gospel that day and opened their hearts to recieve the words of truth and believed.
Jesus when he spoke that story did not mentioned repentance as Peter did on the day of Pentecost because that was said before the New Covenant and in the Old Covenant where judgment was often pass and without the element of repentance and forgiveness and reconciliation back to God because of the system in the Sinai Covenant where for many things...repentance was not available but only the judgment as it was codified in the Law...
Who was Jesus speaking to in Matt 24 ? Was it not to the disciples? weren't they asking about the things of the end which was in the future. Jesus was speaking figuratively to the present-day believers about the future church that they would be teaching.
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On 8/16/2023 at 11:43 PM, AnOrangeCat said:
I had a similar thought regarding my cats. The current one loves chewing on electrical cords every now and then which causes me no end of frustration and worry. Much like sin it calls for discipline, because left unchecked and again like sin, it would lead to death. I thought about that and how as the one giving the discipline there's a line to walk. Too soft and it's ineffective, too hard and it could be damaging physically and damage the relationship in the process. It really gave me some appreciation for what we put God through and the similar but higher position He has in relation to us.
I don't feel like I have a whole lot to add to OSAS so I'm not going to go deeply into that but I feel like this part of your summary is really part of the core narrative of the Bible. Humanity messed up in the garden but God still wants reconciliation and provided Jesus for that purpose. That said there's an addendum to keep in mind. God has principles and isn't ruled by His desires. In Genesis 6:6 we see God grieving over the state of humanity to the point that it it says He regretted making them. Jesus prayed that the cup would pass from Him but was obedient to God's will despite that desire. It works to our benefit that God sticks to His promises instead of throwing up His hands in frustration and leaving us to our own devices or just destroying us. But it's also important to keep in mind that many of His promises are conditional. Unless we stick to the terms laid out we may not always get what He desires to give us.
Well put. Rebellion is to fall back into darkness. We must be willing to come out of the darkness to receive His grace.
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28 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:
Some take that to mean that the believer is then eternally lost. This is impossible, because what has been born-again of God's own life at regeneration cannot be unborn. What is happening in the verse you cite is a severe and painful punishment for this one's works as per 1st Corinthians 3:15 which says the believers works are judged, but that one is still saved: If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
Yes is sounds that way, but I am not going to counter Jesus. You might also recall Jesus saying "Not all who say Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but those who do the will of the Father." Perhaps we should pray about these things.
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So you believe one can still be saved and live in sin?
Sounds like you do even though there are warnings directly to Christians saying living in sin will prevent them from going to Heaven unless of course they repent and turn away from their sin.This deserves a direct answer that Jesus stated himself in Matt 24: 48-51. It doesn't get more plain this.
And if that evil servant shall say in his heart my Lord delayith His coming; and shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and begin and to eat and drink with the drunken, the Lord of that servant shall come in a day he looketh not for Him and in an hour he is not aware of, and shall cut him asunder, and shall appoint him his portion with the hypocrites : there shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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Have you ever wondered How the Lord sees His modern-day church looking down from above being a multitude of systems, orders, denominations, beliefs, ideals, doctrines, and many mixed with worldliness ? How will He know who His true bride is? Will he have a favorite? How will you know which church to attend? This might be the most difficult time of your life. Of course we want the church that makes us feel the most idealistically comfortable.
Has Christianity become just another religion amongst many? Should we be Catholic or Protestant? Is this not confusion? I Do not believe he will find His bride in any of this, But He will find His bride amongst them. So yes choose your church wisely letting the Holy Spirit be your guide. Know this that we are first His bride personally. God bless
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13 hours ago, Solus Christus said:
And I cited a Scripture to prove it is biblical to go to the Lord and confess your sins.. sigh.
Sorry I may have had you mixed up with some one else. thank you for your impute.
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16 hours ago, Solus Christus said:
I was establishing that Scripture supports forgiveness for sins after salvation, lest the Romanite error of losing grace.
By the way asking people for detailed if they sinned after salvation is rather intrusive to ask, people do not tend to want to share their faults with strangers. We are suppose to “confess our sins to one another,” that is in context of people you trust. Your words confirm I have no intent of sharing my faults among strangers.
Sir I was not asking you to confess any certain sins to me or anyone here. I myself confess my sins to the Lord only. I only wanted you to acknowledge that we do indeed fall short and need to go to the Lord with it to receive His grace.
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10 minutes ago, farouk said:
@Mike Mclees Those are truly wonderful promises, are they not?
Similarly, Romans 8.38-39; indeed, the whole of chapter 8...
Yes they are, but how do we obtain this wonderful grace. Do we not have to acknowledge something so we are able to receive it. Come on now. Don't sell it short
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1 hour ago, farouk said:
Hi @Mike Mclees If you take the time to read John's First Epistle as a whole (only 5 chapters), there is strong, assurance for the true believer.
Yes but 1st John 1: 8-9 will do fine. "If we say have sin we lie and the truth is not in us, but if we confess our sins he is just to forgive us." God bless
Oh yes There is Hebress 3: 15-16 For we have not a High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet with out sin. Let us then come boldly unto the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in our time of need.
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8 minutes ago, Solus Christus said:
“But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate who pleads our case before the Father. He is Jesus Christ, the one who is truly righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.“ (1 John 2:1-2)
Yes I know Jesus is our advocate. You are notanswering my question. Of course you don't have answer.
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1 hour ago, FJK said:
In Hebrews 9: 27 we are told, without qualification, and by an apostle himself, that each of us will die and then face judgment.
This seems to me to be in direct contravention to the belief in the Rapture which. ad I understand it, means that potentially billions of people will never die or face judgment.
A question to (preferably but not exclusively) those who believe in the Rapture: How is this possible without contradicting the Bible where it says otherwise? What part of scripture explains this or is Hebrews just in error?
FWIW, I neither believe or disbelieve the Rapture and am just trying to understand the doctrine itself so that I might gain an insight about it, but I do believe without reservation what is written in Hebrews 9:27.
Are you talking of the rapture being the pre tribulation Rapture. Can you clarify? Can you re-fraise your opening sentence, "without qualification"?
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23 hours ago, Neighbor said:
Hi, No can't say that I have. But then I do not count on myself, instead I know of the hope that is certain, that hope being in Jesus the first fruits of many to come.
Hello, I am talking of needing forgiveness. Have you ever fallen short and needed The Lords forgiveness after salvation?
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14 hours ago, Solus Christus said:
There are passages that challenge us like:
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.” (Matthew 10:34-36)
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9)
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)
These are some hard sayings that if not interpreted carefully could cause damage to relationships. I admit Matt 23:9 makes me call my father dad instead of father. Because I have yet to grasp fully what our Lord is saying yet.
When we do not live in the free world we may find our faith in Christ will be despised by our family.
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50 minutes ago, TheBlade said:
Bless you Mike.. amen. There are times He shouldn't have to you think I would know "I am not like man I will never give up on you". And DC Talk.. YES! Praise GOD
Yes the Lord is patient and long suffering beyond our understanding when grace is all we have.
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14 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:
I'm reminded of a great song by DC Talk called "What if I stumble". Its a great reminder that the christian life is not always one of going forward. We ALL have moments where we are either standing still or backsliding. We all fall, even with the Holy Spirit in us, but luckily Jesus will catch us every time.
Thanks you Truefollower
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After becoming a believer have you fallen? Have your thoughts of having hope turned to hopeless and you can no longer stand? If Jesus is our only hope then he is our hope even when we fall. To where else can we go ? We have to turn to our hope in Christ even if we fall a thousand times. I have read the 51st Psalm of David many times. It is a Psalm of hope and restoration. There are many scripture we can turn to for renewed strength. Pray Now and rejoice.
God bless you all.
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30 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:
There is sin that is done in ignorance, which can be forgiven per the law of God.
And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the Lord, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.”But wilful sin is another matter.
Hebrews 10:26-31
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26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
If a believer being an ex-alcoholic has a really bad day and finds himself going to a bar for a drink is he guilty of willfull sin?
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As more Christians have been speaking out against LGBTQ so has persecution of Christians increased. Jobs are at risk. Everyday affiliations are at risk. When will our lives be at risk? When will churches be at risk? These things and more are real threats as time goes forward. Are you ready?
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22 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:
And if one is still “in the flesh” then one is still under that “condemnation” of sin.
This is why we need to be born again of the Spirit….
But ye are not “in the flesh,”but “in the Spirit,” if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.There is therefore now “no condemnation” to them which are “in Christ”Jesus, who walk not after “the flesh,” but after “the Spirit.”Steward, what are you trying to reflect with these two scripture? I believe that if we are tempted and have a fall that this does not mean that we are not of the spirit. We must take in the whole of scripture. Satan knows our weakness and uses it against us. We overcome satan when we confess our sins to Christ who is just to forgive us.
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7 hours ago, Mr. M said:
Isn't that what you are doing by trying to define the Father's attitude
toward sin based solely upon compassion? God's attitude toward sin
must be understood in terms of His Holiness. His love for man and His
hatred of sin are on display in equal measure by sending His Son to die for us.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.
Not at all. Shall we forgive our brother 7 times? No but 70 times 7. I believe This is not really held to 70 times 7 but even far more. However this is out of the box.
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6 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:
One of the most controversial topics I have found in my internet travels is the topic of being “made free from sin” by the Son of God. I believe the reason it is so controversial is because it is personal. It causes one to examine themselves, and this can make people feel uncomfortable because they are still living in sin. And so they from the position of being a sinner try to defend their position, as they also try to cast doubt on God’s words and Christ’s ability to actually “make you free from sin” by having faith in Jesus Christ.
Many have been taught that you will always sin, so sin we will, and sin we must. But this is coming from the position of “doubt” because it “doubts” the words of Jesus Christ that the Son can make you free from sin. And it also “doubts” the words of the apostles that says those who are born of God’s Spirit will no longer live in sin. This position of “doubt” also rejects the testimony of Paul who also says you can be “made free from sin.”
I have heard many say, well I still sin and I don't know anybody who does not sin. So basically what they are saying is, God’s words can't be true based on what they see in themselves and in others'own sinful condition. This of course is not a good practice to judge God’s words to be in error just because of what one sees in others, and also in themselves. This is not “faith” in what God’s Word says is true, this is called “doubt.” So how can one be made whole if they “doubt” the words of Jesus Christ? And is faith believing in what you see?
Oftentimes when Jesus was about to heal someone he would ask, “do you believe?” And after Jesus saw their faith, he would say “your faith has made you whole”. So how can anyone ever be made free from sin if they “doubt” the words of the Son of God, who said He can make you free? Anyone who “doubts” the words of Jesus Christ does not really have faith in Jesus Christ do they?
Many say they believe in the many miracles Jesus performed, they say they believed he raised the dead, they say they believe he healed all manner of disease and infirmities. They say they believe Jesus cast out devils, and Jesus turned the water into wine, and they say they believe Jesus walked on water, and that Jesus himself was raised from the dead. But when it comes to believing that Jesus Christ can actually make you free from sin as Jesus said, then enters doubt and they don't believe.
Do you actually believe the God who made the heavens and the earth, and everything therein cannot make you free from sin? Has God’s power diminished over time, or is it rather that man’s faith in the healing power of God has been diminished over time? I believe it is man’s faith in God that has been diminished.
You and I cannot make ourselves a new man in Christ, but God can. You and I cannot make ourselves free from the bondage of sin, but the Son of God can, and will, if you will only BELIEVE!
Jesus was once asked, who then can be saved? Jesus replied, with men it is impossible, but with God all things are possible. So don’t look at yourself and others and say this is not possible. But look to God and Jesus Christ, who can make all things possible.
Jesus asked the question, will the Son of man find faith when he returns? So don’t doubt the power of God in Jesus Christ, but have faith!
I don't believe the Lord will put in a box. If nothing is impossible for God then He would also be able to have compassion for the weak who struggle with the flesh. Only the Lord knows the heart and soul of a man. Therefore the Lord is a perfect judge.
1John 1: 8-9 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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3 minutes ago, Mr. M said:
I guess that would be the point taken. As to your advice, it is unnecessary and unsolicited,
as I am committed to the scriptures, nor was there any disagreement on my part with your
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I was merely pointing out that many presidents have sought and received spiritual counsel.
I offered no personal opinion.
Billy Has ministered to many other leaders also. However I think he wanted to convert them and not seeing their politics. Most governments are corrupt in one form or another. the world at large is antichrist. How can the church have respect for it?
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14 minutes ago, Mr. M said:
Billy Graham provided spiritual counsel to 12 sitting U.S. presidents—from Harry S. Truman to Barack Obama. Graham participated in events surrounding nine presidential inaugurations—participating in four swearing-in ceremonies.
Trump was advised by evangelicals led by:
Paula Michelle White-Cain (née Furr; born April 20, 1966) is an American televangelist and a proponent of prosperity theology. Tupelo, Mississippi, U.S. White became chair of the evangelical advisory board in Donald Trump's administration.
You might try reading the scripture more and what it says
These misters have lost there sight. If Iam wrong about Billy then He was wrong also.
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12 minutes ago, Sower said:
Hi Mike,
Usually, anyone the press doesn't like is someone I usually do like. I believe Trump got things done for 'we the people"
I didn't vote for a preacher in office, like many did when we got Carter.
But a real president for the people, warts and wrinkles tolerated.
Something below I received from my daily "Patriots Post" this week, by Roger Helle, patriot, a actual letter to Donald Trump.Open Letter to Donald Trump
"You want to be president again? PLEASE show us how you plan to do it"
I doubt you’ll see this letter, but as someone who has been praying for you since you came down the escalator in 2015, I’m going to share my heartfelt concerns.
From the moment you announced your candidacy, all the forces of hell mobilized against you. You fought them every day, and you revealed who the progressives really are. You exposed their hatred for this country and our Constitution. You began to drain The Swamp, dismantling the bureaucracy of government to free the economy to grow. You leveled the playing field.
The economy grew, unemployment plummeted, wages went up, and gas prices went down. You championed freedom of religion around the world. You were the most pro-life president ever! You made the military stronger, and America’s enemies feared us once again.
Everything went great … until China unleashed COVID onto the world. Hindsight is always 20/10. You had people around you who were working against you. Dr. Anthony Fauci, General Mark Milley, FBI Director James Comey, teachers unions, and others undermined your presidency right under your eyes.
Some tried to warn you. The Patriot Post and The Heritage Foundation told you not to become the face of COVID. But your ego would not let you stay out of the spotlight, being in front of the TV cameras day after day. The Democrats would use that to bring you down in 2020. If you saw it coming, you didn’t do anything about it.
Everything good that happened during your presidency, you took the credit. Any mistakes were deflected onto others. You became blinded by the adoration of the crowds. But there is only one who deserves our praise and adoration. God is the One who put you in the Oval Office. Franklin Graham told you that on Election Night. God also tells us, “I will not share My Glory with another” (Isaiah 48).
When the 2020 election rolled around, different states used the fear of COVID to illegally pass regulations (not legislation) to stuff ballot boxes and abuse mail-in ballots. Yes, there was fraud; yes, you lost!
But that ship has sailed. Harping and whining about it gains you nothing. It makes you look weak. You want to be president again? PLEASE show us how you plan to do it. Standing in front of crowds who love you can’t be your only strategy. You may feel good (which is your weakness), but it doesn’t win over the rest of the voters.
Nearly a third of voters are independent. You need them but don’t seem to care about winning them over. Your pettiness and vindictive attitude toward other Republicans are driving them away. People who could become your allies you make into your enemies by “punishing them” for not sufficiently singing your praises.
That vindictiveness cost us seats in both chambers of Congress in 2020 and 2022. My loyalty is to God and then country. We do not crown a king; we elect a president, after they convince us why we should vote for them. President Trump, convince us you are the person to lead us. Stop shooting yourself in the foot with your pettiness. Putting others down to make yourself look good is not a winning strategy. It makes you look small. Put on your big-boy pants and prove you have the right stuff.
Please, Mr. President, put the nation ahead of your ego. I pray every day you might have a revelation as to who Jesus Christ really is. “God opposes the proud, but gives Grace to the humble” (James 4:6).
Humble yourself under His mighty hand so He can lift you up. I served my country proudly, putting my life on the line, shedding blood to protect the nation I love. I believe I’ve earned the right to speak of my great concern for you.
Signed by a simple Patriot,
Semper Fidelis(
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In the early days of Billy Graham he did not look to politics. I'm sorry That His son Franklin took this path. Jesus said in His prayer for the disciples.
John 17:9
I pray for them (the disciples), I pray not for the world. Jesus was never a politician nor did he tell His followers to be. Rev 18 we are commanded to come of the world (Babylon and its systems) and be not partakers of her sins. While we are not in the world we are not of it.
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You must have read it because I already posted it. It is the unfaithful servant. read Matt 24 the last 3 verses. You don't like it because it does not fly with your theology. However Jesus is the truth and cannot lie.