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BeyondET

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  1. Cains descendants are not mentioned as dying in the flood. It's assumed they didn't go extinct before the flood.
  2. It's clear in the bible the waters was divided and the waters below is where the dryland appeared thus called earth and earth's seas is the water below. Yes it is known that God was hovering over the waters in which earth was separated and formed with dryland and seas. The reason earth was formless and void, the less used wording is a better translation because earth had no dryland or seas. Two things created to give earth form and purpose. In the beginning earth was of the waters with no seas or dryland.
  3. I read what you said, (of coarse not) and you was referring to me saying earth couldn't have life plants and trees and organism before he commanded. If earth was restored what was earth before the retore? It would mean was similar to now. And way before God commanded such things. That problem with the restore earth theories along with other scenarios as to earth being restored to glory. If it needed restoring that's not a good thing to go from habitable to unhabitable and back again.
  4. The Bible says the waters was separated. There wasn't two different waters in the beginning. The water below the expanse is earth and its seas which came from the waters above they both were one.
  5. So you just agreed earth wasn't created habitable sustaining plants and trees and organisms. What is it a barren wasteland with no life. Like you said of coarse earth didn't have life on it in the beginning. Though earth has gone through a couple of mass extinction since its beginning.
  6. I don’t think God named earth twice and that's what your implying. God created the earth then it became a wasteland so God had to rename it earth again later on when the dryland was uncovered. God is always working and man cannot work 7 days a week he would die without rest.
  7. The waters was separated first into two distinct places. Then the dryland appeared for which God calls earth and the waters He calls seas thus planet earth. There's no contradiction God separated the waters and because of the separation things started from scratch solar system formation. Like the gold in your body that keeps the electrical current moving and joints operating everything of earth started somewhere else in another form. Billions of years ago though God knows where every atom was or to be all the way to the end of the heavens and earth.
  8. The objects in the beginning, the surface of the water, surface of the deep, darkness, light. From these the heavens and earth was created in the beginning. I see you avoid talking about the waters above where earth came from the waters. I would agree that wasn't a wasteland and had order. Verse 2 is verse 1 and verse 1 was the title not Genesis. Which is derived from the verse 1 saying.
  9. In afew verses details are given earth was part of the waters above. Earth couldn't of had life on it like plants or trees organisms etc. before God commanded such things to be. Waters above is were earth was formed from and became the waters below.
  10. Earth was part of the waters above before being formed into a planet. Interesting the waters above which earth came from is only mentioned in the beginning once. Yom in Hebrew can mean multiple lengths and is represented in Hebrew scriptures as such not just what the English language of a day is which is pretty much 24 hours. The Bible doesn't say how long the Yoms of creation was. And I don't believe each day was a literal 24 hour day but a day nonetheless that is much longer like the galactic tick, lights in the expanse are for days years and seasons also. the created stars are the other planets in the solar system separate from the lights in the galaxy expanse.
  11. What was the habitation of that completed earth in the beginning. No life had been formed yet.
  12. Form to be inhabitable not formed to inhabitable then a wasteland back to a habitable planet again. I've told you I have no problem with earth is 4.5 billion years old.
  13. Isaiah is saying the completed earth was not created to be uninhabitable like other planets are. All those Bible translations used the least common use of the word because it wasn't the most common word use, it's as simple as that. Can you read Greek or Hebrew language or speak it? You are jumping off script, we are discussing verse 2 not evolution. You are using diversion tactics and its not working with me. Nothing evolved by chance or blind chemistry. A old earth is because God takes His time. He's not in a hurry.
  14. But so what you ask? Why didn't those same translators use the most common because they knew became doesn't belong in verse 2 that's why. Bible > Genesis > Chapter 1 > Verse 2 ◄ Genesis 1:2 ► New International Version Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. New Living Translation The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. English Standard Version The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Berean Standard Bible Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. King James Bible And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. New King James Version The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. New American Standard Bible And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. NASB 1995 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. NASB 1977 And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Legacy Standard Bible And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Amplified Bible The earth was formless and void or a waste and emptiness, and darkness was upon the face of the deep [primeval ocean that covered the unformed earth]. The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters. Christian Standard Bible Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Holman Christian Standard Bible Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. American Standard Version And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Aramaic Bible in Plain English The Earth was chaos and empty and darkness on the faces of the depths and the Spirit of God hovered on the faces of the waters. Brenton Septuagint Translation But the earth was unsightly and unfurnished, and darkness was over the deep, and the Spirit of God moved over the water. Contemporary English Version The earth was barren, with no form of life; it was under a roaring ocean covered with darkness. But the Spirit of God was moving over the water. Douay-Rheims Bible And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters. English Revised Version And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. GOD'S WORD® Translation The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep water. The Spirit of God was hovering over the water. Good News Translation the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God was moving over the water. International Standard Version When the earth was as yet unformed and desolate, with the surface of the ocean depths shrouded in darkness, and while the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters, JPS Tanakh 1917 Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters. Literal Standard Version and the earth was formless and void, and darkness [was] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God [was] fluttering on the face of the waters, Majority Standard Bible Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. New American Bible and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters— NET Bible Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. New Revised Standard Version the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. New Heart English Bible Now the earth was formless and empty, and darkness was on the surface of the watery depths. And God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. Webster's Bible Translation And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. World English Bible The earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep and God’s Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. Young's Literal Translation the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,
  15. The most common use of the word. Doesn't equal a fact that verse 2 was supposed to be the common version. The fact is you desperately want it to be translated as became to fit your narrative. None of the top ten English Bible translations has it as became. Those bible scholars are far more knowledgeable than you. If what your saying was true, Bibles would of presented verse 2 as such, it's not became but was. Good news for you is that every person on earth could be wrong about what happened or not what happened during creation.
  16. The common use of the word doesn't equal a fact. Now if it was used 100% of the time then it could be called a fact. Since became isnt used in all occurrences, it's a interpretation.
  17. Is pretty evident you are unapproachable. In your mind you make no mistakes on insinuations or anything. Into something doesn't always mean the same thing as On something. You on drugs was the farthest thing i was thinking of when I said what I said. You can't even meet someone a 10th of the way. You've been focused on verse 2 of Genesis 1. Earth became isn't the subject of the thread either.
  18. Not when you knew what I was talking about the planet theia theory. You were being sarcastic not humorous towards me. You were doing the twisting. I didn't say drugs either, so what ever foul you were thinking is your doing not mine. I know you weren't thinking drugs because I did not say (On Something), you twisted that also.
  19. You like to twist anything you can get your hands on. Your humor isn't My humor. You saying foul shows where your mind is at foul. The word foul was never used but your mind went there.
  20. When say stuff like, "you haven't met her" your mind is into something.
  21. You haven't shown what your into, other than contradicting anything anyone says.
  22. And you never will meet. Became a wasteland from a collision is fine.
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