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6 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

The better idea is to follow the money.  That's where you'll find the science.

Read the book of the Revelation.  Before the tribulations are over, two thirds of mankind will have been wiped out.  Prior to that, Christ raptures the faithful; the mass disappearance of millions.  The earth will not be destroyed because someone drives s Suburban.  It will be destroyed because man has not obeyed his Creator.

Luke 12:52-53  For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.  The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.  If you're hanging with a bad crowd and get saved they won't want you around any more.  They want to be around people who do the vile things they do.

You don't have clue about the money

Revelation says nothing about 2031, you said its a known reality in 7 years it will happen. It could be 700 years you have no discernment.

A suburban wasn't going to destroy the earth, you Love making up false statements 

Again I ask how do you know I'm hanging out with bad people and I'm not saved???? You don't know nothing about me to say off the cuff junk like that.

20 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

And yet, the climate change proponents are buying up the beach front property they say will soon be underwater.  source

I can assure you of three things.

1. Climate change is not an issue.  it's just the latest excuse those in power use to further control your life.

2. What WILL throw the world into turmoil is the sudden disappearance of millions of people which could literally happen any day.  In the following seven years, two thirds of the earth's population will die.  That's about 5.4 billion people.  That is a known reality, and yet, where is the warning of that?  Why aren't people worried about the apocalypse that WILL happen instead of the ones that won't?

3. With climate change, those with the resources will always come out ahead.  When the King returns in the skies to take the Christians out of the world, all the riches in the world won't protect you.  If you get saved today your "friends" may give you a hard time.  If you get saved during the tribulation they will kill you.

Why not prepare for the disaster you KNOW is going to happen?

 

So the CEO of Facebook bought 600 acres in Hawaii and so climate issues is false. Why do people choose celebrities as proponents and not scientists and universities the one's studying the problem. Is really odd.

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I guess you don't like the idea of phasing out ice cars?

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You pull a number out of a hat and in those many years two thirds of the population will die, about 5.4 billion. And that's a known reality? 

you need to get a better grip on reality if you believe that.

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My friends may give me a hard time if I get saved? Hmm and where did you get that info?

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

They predicted the population bomb, also, a global famine by 1975, a new ice age before the 21st century begins, oceans dead by 1974, acid rain depleting the supply of fish, sea levels covering countries by 2008, no more snow anywhere by 2000, the polar ice cap completely melting by 2018 and many other spectacular events that never happened.  In fact, every two years there's a new eco-threat that's going to kill us unless we sacrifice more of our freedoms.

No snow by 2000 was a chuckle,

Seasonal ice melting and reforming happens every year. But the reforming is not coming back as much and has these guys on the edge huddled up on land.

It's been sighted frequently since 2010 and getting worse. The walrus are bunching up on beaches 35,000 of them in the photo. Because their home is melting away. Their habitat is shrinking, food sources dwindling. Alot of animals depend on a unaffected average seasonal changes of ice at the poles for their very existence.

6 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Arguing for specific wording to refute another is ridiculous.  Everyone understands what "morning and evening" means.  If not you, then get educated on the fact.

Proving what, exactly?

Who's arguing I'm just dandy how about you?

Yes the morning can be from after 12 o'clock midnight all the way to eleven fifty nine a.m or when the sun rises or on Venus where it takes 243 days on earth to complete a morning and evening.

Proves you are using your education to determine a day length before humans were even around.

On 3/12/2024 at 8:20 AM, RdJ said:

If these are not normal days, but periods of millions of years (with evening and morning? The plants would get no light) then how does that work? Cause this is what I thought would have to be the meaning when I studied Geography and the study books said it was all the truth, so I didn't question it, but that did not work. 

God made the trees and plants on day 3, and the animals on day 6. How have all those trees and plants survived all these years without animals that provide pollination and fertilization? Plants and animals need each other. One cannot have arisen millions of years after the other.

 

Just like today 20% of the earth's plant population do auto fertilization and don't require animals for pollinating.

How many days are in a year and how long is a galactic tic? Because it's spinning too.

Read Gen days, 1,2,4,3,5,6, and you don't have to come up with theories about how can plants grow without sun light.

On 3/10/2024 at 7:53 PM, FreeGrace said:

According to the very text, there were 6 24 hour days.  So, no, the 6th day was no longer than any other day.

Show me the very text in Genesis about it being 24 hours each day not what you think is a day but the actual numbers 24 or 60 minutes an hour anything like that? Or are you assigning the evening and morning length.

Job 38:12

In your days, have you commanded the morning or assigned the dawn its place,

On 3/9/2024 at 10:13 PM, The Barbarian said:

It does if you use the common definition of "morning."   If you have to use a personal definition, that's a pretty good indication there's something wrong with your interpretation.

Pretty much the question I asked you.   "Morning" has a very definite meaning, in Hebrew and in English.   If you have to change it to fit a new narrative, it's an indication you've gone wrong somewhere.

 

Here's a common definition, twelve zero one in the morning goes to eleven fifty nine in the evening.

The Bible doesn't require you to know Hebrew or English to understand Morning, to be correct. If you think people need to freshen up on Hebrew or English definitions to comprehend scripture you've definitely gone wrong somewhere.

All this has to happen on day six. Eve can't be formed after the seventh day and the fall of man is after the seventh or is it?

The Sixth very long Day

1:24 And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, land crawlers, and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. 1:25 God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that crawls upon the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

2:5 Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted; for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 2:6 But springs welled up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground.

1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”

2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, where He placed the man He had formed. 2:9 Out of the ground the LORD God gave growth to every tree that is pleasing to the eye and good for food. And in the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

2:10 Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it branched into four headwaters:

2:11 The name of the first river is Pishon; it winds through the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 2:12 And the gold of that land is pure, and bdellium and onyx are found there.

2:13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it winds through the whole land of Cush.

2:14 The name of the third river is Hiddekel; it runs along the east side of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

2:15 Then the LORD God took the man and placed him in the Garden of Eden to cultivate and keep it.

2:16 And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

2:18 The LORD God also said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make for him a suitable helper.”

2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and He brought them to the man to see what he would name each one. And whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 2:20 The man gave names to all the livestock, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.

2:21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep, and while he slept, He took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the area with flesh.

2:22 And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him.

1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

2:23 And the man said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for out of man she was taken.”

1:24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

1:25 And the man and his wife were both naked, and they were not ashamed.

1:28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”

1:29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit contains seed. They will be yours for food. 1:30 And to every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth—everything that has the breath of life in it—I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.

1:31 And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2:2 And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on that day He rested from all His work. 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because on that day He rested from all the work of creation that He had accomplished.

15 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

It does if you use the common definition of "morning."   If you have to use a personal definition, that's a pretty good indication there's something wrong with your interpretation.

Pretty much the question I asked you.   "Morning" has a very definite meaning, in Hebrew and in English.   If you have to change it to fit a new narrative, it's an indication you've gone wrong somewhere.

 

To job it was a end of a day, Should we use our understanding of morning? Considering God ask Job the same thing a human.

11 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

It does if you use the common definition of "morning."   If you have to use a personal definition, that's a pretty good indication there's something wrong with your interpretation.

God ask Job pretty much the same question.

Job 38

12 In your days, have you commanded the morning or assigned the dawn its place,

Its fascinating how living human cells and organs can be passed on to other humans rather the donor is living or not.

Some cells can live on for weeks after the breath is gone. The immune system is like it's own Genesis. It kicks into overdrive after death trying to repair failing organs though futile.

The human body is also a walking ecosystem hosting over 10,000 different species.

3 hours ago, Michael37 said:

It sometimes helps to ponder an alternative, in this case, God deciding to prevent Cain from killing Abel by also accepting his offering, but then that opens the door to sin, falling short of righteousness.

Cain might of thought he had a leg up in being the firstborn, didn't have to give the same effort as Abel.

14 hours ago, Renskedejonge said:

Yes but this may not be mature content. If you look at those mountains they absolutely look like there was water that went down. There were already mountains though before the flood.

 

 

Indeed the power of water because of gravity, the whole Colorado plateau is tilted around 15 degrees.

The river is 277 miles long yet it descends 2,000 feet in elevation along the way, 8 feet per mile carving a path down to sea level. The slopes are collapsed banks over time. 

8 hours ago, Figure of eighty said:

Some people trust God easily after setbacks. I'm going through alot from possible eviction,health issues and a break up. 

 

My heart is so thoroughly broken. Why would God bring someone who is everything I wanted but knows I'm not ready.  I'd rather God wait yrs to bring the guy instead of show me and it's not time. I feel heartbroken and upset about everything. 

 

I'm anxious..and nervous.

Everything you wanted, hmm now that's a rarity.

Years can turn into decades waiting for such a tandem, may even help to see through setbacks, if it's salvable.

7 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Malachi was written before the foundation of the world?

Yes the name was written 

7 hours ago, Mr. M said:

As records kept, as the scriptures cited indicate.

Revelation 20:2 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened.

And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works,

by the things which were written in the books.

Has revelation 20:2 happen yet?

6 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

Here too:

Exodus 32; 32,33

But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.” 33But the LORD said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

So it seems to be updated daily? Hourly? 

Ahh the book of law blotting the separation from Israel.

7 hours ago, Mr. M said:

As records kept, as the scriptures cited indicate.

 

 

Since before the foundation of the world indeed.

Hmm remain open as in things added?

On 2/3/2024 at 9:39 AM, MichaelSnow said:

Like the 'love is love' mantra, many Christians are now going off the track on forgiveness, leaving out much of what the NT teaches. Forgiveness has become part of "therapeutic deism"...forgiveness is now self-therapy rather than reconciliation.

Bonhoeffer: "Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance...."

If you want a Biblical NT study of both sides of the coin, Chapter Three, Forgiveness and Repentance, Love, Prayer, and Forgiveness

No Love and self discipline?

Both like fingerprints.

6 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

I guess you missed my point.  Of course God didn't create any stupid creatures.  So, if it not being about man, and not about angels, as your comment suggests, then who or what?  Thanks.

And you missed that I was referring to what you said below.

v.13 is clearly about satan, who "was created perfect

Interesting how Jacob calls Esau his lord, and seeing his face is like seeing the face of God. Profound statement he makes.

Gen 33

8“What do you mean by sending this whole company to meet me?” asked Esau.

“To find favor in your sight, my lord,” Jacob answered.

9“I already have plenty, my brother,” Esau replied. “Keep what belongs to you.”

10But Jacob insisted, “No, please! If I have found favor in your sight, then receive this gift from my hand.

For indeed, I have seen your face, and it is like seeing the face of God, since you have received me favorably. 

The phrase is used in multiple places in scripture. Like here Noah certainly couldn't see the whole earth. Just that location where he was. Cain left the place/face of Eden.

Genesis 8:13

And in the six hundred and first year, on the first day of the first month, the waters were dry on the earth: and Noah took the cover off the ark and saw that the face of the earth was dry.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Sure.  When all angels were created, they were full of wisdom.  Would God create stupid angels?  No.

Stupid angels Huh?, I was agreeing with you about it not being about man, but never mind.

Something to do with the darkness.