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  1. 15 hours ago, believeinHim said:

    My parents just recently went back to the Baptist church with me. Then they recently decided it wasn't for them. Then they recently decided they would go to a mega church. 

    Then they decided they would not go at alll again.

    This is all because they fear viruses in air tight spaces whre people introduce, and breath, And sing on top of you. Shopping is still OK with all of us, Because you move around, You don't stay in the same spot, Places to dine in where you can choose where you sit so you can pick a spot away from people, And you aren't in there so long. This would also include shows and concerts in where people are packed in like sardines, And breathing and singing on to each other. Outdoor venues would be fine, An outdoor venue would be fine. A drive in theatre would be fine. Anythign outdoorsy would be fine.

    This does not mean I am not going to support Christians, And not going ot support church. I recenlty found a Chruch of Christ I think I like that gives you the option to donate online, Should you choose to do so. I do not know if they stream on their website. There are onlien forums, Through limited, And there are other churches to watch online, as well. Donating to some churches is possible to do from their website.

    So, This is what we have decided about attending church In Person. It is also what I have decided, Though I decided this for own personal reason and convictions, anyway,

    This is also what I have decided for movie theaters, And shows and concerts in where  youw ould beon top of people. This is what we have all decided. I am not sure this i s a problem. Is the Church Chris,t, Or is the Church, The , 'Body of Believers'> . I believe the church, is The 'Body of Believers'>. :101:Is the Church the 'Body of Believers'>. ? > ? I think the church is the, 'Body of Believers'> . :101:

    Since the church (unfortunately) tends to follow the world's lead, just as many are continuing remote work after the government shutdowns, churchgoers are going remotely--I do it also--but the Spirit can touch us far more strongly in church and I can minister to others in person.

  2. On 1/11/2023 at 5:11 PM, portlie said:

    My catholic friend insists Mary was 'sinless' in the sense that she never sinned intentionally but was simply saved from 'original' sin. when i told him romans 3:23 states that all have sinned, he replied with this text taken from an article he read

    Original sin is not something we do; it is something we’ve inherited. Romans 3 deals with personal sin because it speaks of sins committed by the sinner. With this in mind, consider this: has a baby in the womb or a child of two ever committed a personal sin? No, he hasn’t (see Rom. 9:11)! Or how about the mentally challenged who do not have the use of their intellects and wills? These cannot sin because in order to sin, a person has to know that the act he is about to perform is sinful while freely engaging his will in carrying it out. Without the proper faculties to enable them to sin, children before the age of accountability and anyone who does not have the use of his intellect and will cannot sin. Right there you have millions of exceptions to Romans 3:23

    apparently, this means mary was an exception. 

    I would really appreciate any help anyone can provide, that is, how i can convince him he is wrong. My friend and I were both young Baptists until he became a catholic a few months ago, i am trying to lead him back to the faith, but it is extremely difficult. thank you to anyone that replies

    this is my first post so apologies if its in the wrong category 

    Romans describing "Original Sin" is a St. Augustine Roman (false) doctrine. It's NOT a biblical doctrine.

    Because we are of Adam and Eve, we have the propensity to sin. Even disabled people sometimes do right, sometimes do wrong, because we and they and all except Jesus are willful.

    Mary was of Adam, Eve and King David. In her "magnificat" as the Rome calls it, she says:

    "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in GOD my SAVIOR, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant."

    Mary's humble state was as a sinner and she needing saving through JESUS on the CROSS. Where in the Bible does God take someone's sin without the cross? Nowhere.

    The main thing with Roman friends is not to get into the woods of many false doctrine, "Mary never sinned, Mary intercedes for me, Mary's the Queen of Heaven and co-redemptrix," for these false doctrines mean nothing to Mary who is in Heaven with her son and SAVIOR. The main two issues with Roman friends, that build upon each other:

    1) Are you saved because you've trusted Jesus or because you also do good works and religious things?

    2) Are you 100% sure of eternal life? If you're doing works to avoid purgatory or maintain salvation, you're not 100% sure, right?

    Therefore, 3) trust JESUS for 100% ASSURANCE of eternal life.

  3. 21 hours ago, Billiards Ball said:

    That's a presumption from Gentile commentators.

    In a Jewish wedding betrothal, the groom would build a home on dad's land and the father would approve the home then tell his son to get his bride.

    Jesus is saying when our heavenly homes are completed/there are enough Jews and Gentiles saved, the Father will tell the Son to Return.

    HOWEVER, Jesus limited some of his nature on Earth. He chose to live in one body, in one person.

    Anyone who actually read my post would understand their misinterpretations here.

  4. On 12/10/2022 at 4:41 AM, Open7 said:

    In Matthew 24:36, it says that only the father knows when Jesus will come back, not even the angels or even Jesus.

    I’m wondering why Jesus wouldn’t be told this? I’ve searched Google and it just comes up with articles talking about how he humbled himself to become man and therefore doesn’t necessarily know things. But that doesn’t really help me.

    For what reason has God decided to keep this from Jesus? The information is kept from us, so that we would be ready, could it be a similar reason for Jesus?

    That's a presumption from Gentile commentators.

    In a Jewish wedding betrothal, the groom would build a home on dad's land and the father would approve the home then tell his son to get his bride.

    Jesus is saying when our heavenly homes are completed/there are enough Jews and Gentiles saved, the Father will tell the Son to Return.

    HOWEVER, Jesus limited some of his nature on Earth. He chose to live in one body, in one person.

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  5. 20 hours ago, Open7 said:

    Hi all, been studying Matthew 24 this last week. In verses 42-51 Jesus talks about how we should be ready for his return and living out his will. But what if in the moment he comes, we are slipping up and currently sinning? It says in verse 50-51

    the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

    I don’t really understand this. If you are saved, and caught sinning, would you not avoid this punishment?

    Thanks

    The question shows a misunderstaning of salvation and assurance. Pray for wisdom here.

  6. 2 hours ago, Open7 said:

    I’ve been thinking today about looking for signs in our life to get answers for things. I’m starting to lean to this being a dangerous way to try to figure out Gods will. I’m not saying all signs are wrong, e.g if you have a vivid dream relating to something specific you or someone else is going through, then it should be respected and considered. Or if a prophecy comes your way, then it should be weighed up.

    But, if you, let’s say have some kind of decision to make, and you start to look for signs or patterns in your life to give you an indicator as to what you choose, then you can be letting yourself be open to deception, because if you want to find signs for something, you’ll probably find something whether it’s true or not.

    And so rather than looking for signs for a decision of some sort, we make the best decision we can with whatever resources we have (without forcing our eyes to see signs), and trust that God will bring things to blessed place.

    Years ago I was looking for signs that my ex girl friend was the one for me, and I saw many signs that seemed even miraculous, but it turned out she wasn’t the one and we parted ways. I think because I wanted her to be the one, I was optimistic in looking for signs that implied she was the one, and, as a result I found many, but was deceived, and then left confused.

    Perhaps signs can be found when looking back at something, after decisions have been made?

    Wondering what people think?

    Looking for signs = Jewish

    The Bible has PLENTY of signs. God talks to us in various ways. But we are to ask God for confirmation while expecting it could come as signs or as Bible verses, other people sharing wisdom, etc.

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  7. 21 hours ago, AlsoBroken said:

    I would like to hear from others who relate to this life-long difficulty…

    Due to the physical and emotional ABSENCE of my earthly Dad (even though he was alive and usually only a phone call away) and no other caring substitute interested in my life, I seem to be incapable of truly believing and trusting that my Father God loves me unconditionally, and actually WANTS a relationship with me. I believe it in Faith because “the Bible tells me so” and sometimes I DO feel His love for me, but on a daily average, I don’t. I can barely comprehend that this Father - Creator and Sustainer of the Universe - actually wants ME in a close relationship with Him? I have NO frame-of-reference for this. (Which is a deep grief in itself). This lack of comprehension on an emotional level has seriously effected my spiritual growth, my whole life. 

     And yes, I continue to pray for it! 
     

    A deep relationship includes not just talking to someone but listening. You should get out of the busy city, get alone in nature outside, ask God to talk to you, and just LISTEN at length. This will transform your relationship--of course you can read some Bible in nature and pray and etc. to prepare to listen.

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  8. 10 hours ago, BillyBOC said:

    It is stated that God is not the author of confusion but the author of peace as in all the churches of the saints, then why are there so many denominations with so many different beliefs and doctrines and outright confusion, where is the peace and understanding?

     

    We see this in 1 Corinthians 14:33 and then we see in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that scripture is profitable doctrine, correction, study and that is that the man of God may be perfect. We see in Matthew 4:4 that the Word that proceed out of the mouth of God feeds us and we see that that word is the scriptures today and that that is all we need according to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Then in John 14:26 we see that the Holy Ghost will teach you everything, then again, why are there so many conflicting doctrines, so many arguments and meaningful but misleading and sometimes purely false doctrines and statements, so many minor and major points of confusion in the Body of Christ, why is the Bride of Christ so questionable today?

     

    Just thinking out loud!

    Because not all the "churches" are full of "saints". Satan creates entire false churches and cults--these are described in the scriptures very well.

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  9. Just now, Billiards Ball said:

    "Are you perfect? Of course, no one is perfect. The bad news is imperfect people cannot be in utopia/Heaven but the good news is the Bible says 'Jesus died and rose, the perfect become imperfect, to perfect us. [2 Cor 5:21]' Trust Him today for eternal life."

    I actually use statements like the above to witness quickly on checkout lines and etc. PERFECT is a POWERFUL witnessing word and not even atheists can claim moral PERFECTION. Use the word PERFECT in your presentations!

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  10. 25 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

    I can't say I have much experience at this and so I hope to gain some good tips from some of you.

    Ok, what about this?

    "Jesus gave you the gift of life and promises you immortality in paradise for eternity if you will simply follow him and his commandments. Would you like that?  I can help make that a reality for you!"

    "Are you perfect? Of course, no one is perfect. The bad news is imperfect people cannot be in utopia/Heaven but the good news is the Bible says 'Jesus died and rose, the perfect become imperfect, to perfect us. [2 Cor 5:21]' Trust Him today for eternal life."

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  11. 1 hour ago, plo1988 said:

    Just wondering. Was it something specific that the Pharisees and the scribes did that cannot be done today?

    The unpardonable sin (as Jesus said, there's ONE way to be lost) is to reject Jesus for salvation.

    The Pharisees rejected Jesus after Jesus fulfilled both Talmud and OT prophecies--wonderfully, many of them trusted in Jesus later, as recorded in Acts!

  12. On 10/13/2022 at 6:00 AM, Open7 said:

    In matthew 17:14-22 Jesus heals a boy with a demon, and says to his disciples that they have little faith because they could not heal the boy.

    I just don’t feel I understand faith in this sense. I have prayed for people with what I felt was a mustard seed size amount of faith, and the healing doesn’t come, this has happened many times. So it seems my faith must be even smaller than a mustard seed, or not even exist at all?

    I know God is not going to heal someone every time, but the amount of times I have tried and also seen others do the same, and I see nothing happen.

    So when Jesus says you only need faith the size of a mustard seed, and I see nothing happen, I just don’t know what else to do.

    Can anyone help?

    Spiritual faith/trust comes from God--sometimes in healing God will let you know your prayer shall work!

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  13. On 10/4/2022 at 7:39 PM, plo1988 said:

    Genesis 32:30
    King James Version
    30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

     

    John 1:18
    King James Version
    18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

     

    I don't get it. Is Genesis saying that Jacob saw God face to face?

    Hosea might say that it was an angel he wrestled with.

     

    Hosea 12:3-4
    King James Version
    3 He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he had power with God:

    4 Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us;

     

    Does Genesis clearly say that Jacob saw God face to face? How could no man have ever seen God? And wouldn't Adam have? God walked in the cool of the day in the garden and drove out Adam and Eve (unless I got that wrong). Was he just invisible the entire time in the garden when Adam looked? I don't know if it reads like that. Didn't God talk to Cain and Abel and put a mark on Cain? Wouldn't he have had to have done it invisibly for no man to have ever seen him? And again, by my estimation, it kind of says that Jacob saw God face to face. Did Jacob get it wrong when he named that place like he didn't see God?

    The pre-incarnate Jesus dealt with people personally in the Old Testament. No one has yet seen the Father and lived, except the Son. Note how the Father's throne is covered by angelic beings in the OT.

  14. 12 hours ago, plo1988 said:

    Genesis 32:30
    King James Version
    30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

     

    John 1:18
    King James Version
    18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

     

    I don't get it. Is Genesis saying that Jacob saw God face to face?

    Hosea might say that it was an angel he wrestled with.

     

    Hosea 12:3-4
    King James Version
    3 He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he had power with God:

    4 Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us;

     

    Does Genesis clearly say that Jacob saw God face to face? How could no man have ever seen God? And wouldn't Adam have? God walked in the cool of the day in the garden and drove out Adam and Eve (unless I got that wrong). Was he just invisible the entire time in the garden when Adam looked? I don't know if it reads like that. Didn't God talk to Cain and Abel and put a mark on Cain? Wouldn't he have had to have done it invisibly for no man to have ever seen him? And again, by my estimation, it kind of says that Jacob saw God face to face. Did Jacob get it wrong when he named that place like he didn't see God?

    No one has seen Father God. Jesus, the Son, has come to explain and show who God is.

    To be "saved" and have eternal life, you trust Jesus today for forgiveness of sin, and when He comes back for us, He will transform us that we can be in the Father's presence. Amen!

  15. 14 hours ago, believeinHim said:

    At this point in my life, I think it is the best thing to do to set aside as much of a savings as humanly possible for the next 10 ~ 15 years before real life sets in and I have bills that I can not afford.

    My mom has put her something in to the main stream media and is still paying for it, despite a lot of people's warnings, Including mine.

    I believe at this point the best thing for us both to do, Is for her to set aside the 65 for Cable lite that she is investing in which she is not realizing And set that aside for the next 10 ~ 15 years, or around that much time and that much money, etc. I believe this would be the wisest thing to do for her at this point.

    As for me, The wisest thing for me also to do, Is to set aside as much as I possibly can for the next 10 ~ 15 years, And set it aside and leave it there for myself for the future, And struggle to not dip in to it when I have real bills that I can not afford. 

    Am I right on both accounts ? Should my mom set aside everything she is paying for Cable lite, And put it in to savings ? Should she have ever spent it at all in the first place ? {She doesn't want me asking this or talking about her here, But I had to.}. What if every stay at home house wife in America had set aside 30 years worth of 100 dollars, For the past 30 years...............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ? ? 

    There are resources to help with retirement planning. It's important. I volunteer to help you (no cost, I used to work in the industry, I will simply answer your questions). Send me a PM.

    And you are correct, if you can go without TV streaming and put the money faithfully into funds for years, it can grow a surprising amount.

  16. 23 hours ago, Dirt Eaters said:

    Agreed . 

    I have noticed, if you ask a direct question, either the person avoids it. Or changes the subject all together. 

    Sometimes, i have felt the question to be useless. Like asking a person if they are a Christian. Like answering yes to that was proof of the pudding.

    At those clubs i was involved in. Preachers would come in and participate in thier events. I asked a few, are you a Christians? And he said yes. 

    Let me tell you, my view of Christians went into the toilet for a long time after that.

    Calling yourself a Christian doesnt make you one, as the scripture states. Following the will of God does

    I appreciate your answer, but would say "trusting Jesus for eternal life" not "following God's will" does--especially since the NT says the will of God is for people to trust Jesus.

  17. On 9/25/2022 at 4:38 AM, Open7 said:

    There have a been a few occasions in the last year or so, where I have heard of people, including myself, who have a good and close relationship with God, but for some reason, God withdrew his presence from them for a time, maybe as a way of testing them, so see how much they want him back (not saying that’s the reason but just my theory as to why God may do this).

    Anyways, does anyone know any verses or stories that talk about this? I may kick myself if some are listed and I already knew them.

    Thanks so much

    Depends on what is meant by presence. Not hearing God's voice? There were long stretches of silence in the scriptures. Not feeling the Spirit? That's a great time to get out in nature, pray briefly to God and then LISTEN.

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  18. On 9/24/2022 at 3:20 PM, Dirt Eaters said:

    I've never been in a Christian chat room before but I've been in all sorts of others. And now that I am a Christian I just think it's kind of funny that I come here thinking I'm going to talk to other people on subjects that people share, and very few people actually make a comment it's more reactions and quoting scripture. Which is fine to a point but when you want to have a discussion there's no content. 

    If you are in my line of work and we were in serious discussions on the programming of a M20 motor grader and decided that you're going to quote me passages out of the handbook or just send me a reactions I'd hang up on you in a heartbeat. 

    So I'm just asking can we have a decent conversation. I mean if you want to quote scripture that's great but add something to it with your own words. And reactions are fine but tell me what you're thinking talk to me at least, that's why I came out here.

    My pet peeve is a little different. I see questions that can be answered simply and concisely, and then pages and pages of opinion, personal observations and scriptures--even too much personal slant at times--what you've been missing. By that I mean I'd love to see more concise, direct answers here at Worthy and some of the talkier Worthy posters witnessing on sites where there are spiritual seekers.

    Thanks for your comment.

  19. On 9/7/2022 at 3:50 AM, theeblackestblu said:

    I was thinking about movie i wont be watching ever again, and I forgot movies like

    "dogma" and "bruce almighty"(never saw it though), An interview with god(via purflix).. Not sure who that guy is Etc.

    I know we are made in the image of God so we would not be "graven" or carved. But we shouldnt equate Him to any thing on earth either... esp ourselves.

    But how wrong is it? Is it about representation/depiction. Or should it be avoided all together.

    (side note: i would love to pick apart dogma now that i have different eyes, but i dont think i could stomach it lol)

    Romans 14 indicates how film and theatre portrayals are up to the individual's conscience.

  20. On 9/9/2022 at 12:31 PM, missmuffet said:

    The resurrected Jesus ate Luke 24:42-43. In Matthew 8:11 it tells us that many will come to eat at a future feast with the Lord.

    Revealtion 19:9 

    Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.”

    So yes we will eat in heaven. 

     

    Great point--I've thought on it and believe "do away with stomach and food" refers to death, not the afterlife.

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