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Tyler S.

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  1. Ok I think I understand. And that’s what I always thought! Didn’t he give em like 400 years too? BUT what about some of the more specific OT laws and things. I’m just imagining a woman “lying about being a virgin” and then being stoned to death by all the men in town. That doesn’t sound like “ample time” or “slow to anger”...like, we today get chances at forgiveness and we have the privledge of living under grace in a more modern age...so why didn’t God allow those poor people back then to have ample chances?
  2. But they didn’t GET the chance to even live in the age of grace as we do today! How can a God of mercy and justice condone that? Honestly...how can you say that a perfect God of mercy and justice must’ve predestined some of his beloved children to eternal torture and anguish? That’s a literal double standard. A contradiction. I want to love the God we see in the New Testament...a forgiving God of love and mercy and justice. But I don’t see the same God all the time in the Old Testament.
  3. Then you have to state that out God doesn’t institute justice amongst his children that he “loves.” There were innocent people that died and...what...God just must’ve wanted them to die in sin and be condemned to eternal torture?! That’s a complete contradiction to Jesus’s direct words. God must not have loved those women and babies that died worshiping false gods...never knowing the gospel. I refuse to believe that. “God so loved the world.”
  4. Life it’s fair...but the way God deals with all his children MUST be fair in order for us to truly be able to say that he’s a God of PERFECTION and JUSTICE. He MUST have a plan for those poor people right? Or else you must concede that some people are predestined to HELL which would spit in the face of the fact that Jesus said that Gods will is that NONE shall perish.
  5. I suppose...but then what about those people (the heathen nations)? They didn’t get to live in the age of peace and grace...so those human beings didn’t get the same shot at salvation as we get today. Doesn’t that seem unfair?
  6. But why, then, did God COMMAND the Israelites to genocide all of those unbelieving tribes? We’re those chidren of God in his image not worth salvation? I just don’t...can’t believe that God would command his people to literally slaughter entire races for “sinning” when saved Christians themselves sin as well. It seems like a double standard and God is not the father of confusion. So I’m really not understanding...
  7. Hello all. I am happy to say that I am a believing Christian and I’ve begun to feel called to study the history of the faith more as well as study the scriptures. In this pursuit I’ve stumbles across some worrying things that have, and I regrettably and humbly say this, question, not the existence of, but the nature and ways of our God. See, I read AND hear that our God is a god of justice, love, peace, righteousness, mercy, and grace. I do believe this. Thank GOD that he is because where would we be without his sacrifice if Jesus? But, in light of this, I sometimes wonder how Christians, in the past, have done some of the most HORRIBLE things imaginable and claimed wholeheartedly that God backed them on it. Do you think, for example, it really was the White Man’s “manifested destiny” to basically poach what amounted to over 90% of all Native Americans (peaceful ones or otherwise)? That doesn’t sound like peaceful conversion, loving thy neighbor, and not killing. And it made me think “there’s no way God wanted that! How is that justice? God love ALL his creations and surely he wanted them to come to the truth through peace and careful teaching” and then I read how God dealt with the Canaanites in the Old Testament....and my entire image of my loving, slow to anger, merciful, and most importantly JUST God....was turned on it’s head. I want to make it CLEAR that im still a believing Christian and I’m honestly just trying to understand this. Because, as a Christian today, I can’t imagine myself claiming that God told me to steal somebody else’s land and kill them...whether they’re a believer or not. Please help! Any advice is appreciated! Please keep it civil too as I know that this is a contentious issue. Bless!
  8. Well blindly following the teachings of a pastor can be a slippery slope and can lead you away from the literal word...but it’s less about that and my question was more along the lines of: will the lord fight for ME and I need only be still? Or will he fight for the Jews and THEY need only be still? I’m asking if God’s word as written in the context of the old covenant can still apply to our lives today because so many people use it to win people over or encourage others. Thanks!
  9. As the church of gentile Christians living in the ministry of Paul, how should we interpret and keep the Old Testament/covenant? I see many songs and preachers nowadays valiantly proclaiming such encouraging verses as, for example, Exodus 14:14 or Lamentations 3:21-24 to ease peoples mind and praise the lord. If the Old Testament/covenant was written to the Israelite Jews...then how can many of us today, as Christians of the church age, use these verses to worship and encourage and ease minds if these promises were never meant or written to US? Thanks for any advice or responses!
  10. Ah thank you 😅. I was worried there. And yes that is an interesting interpretation! So how would you reconcile Jesus’ references to hellfire or the Bible’s references to eternal punishment?
  11. Hey! Thank you for the advice and explanations! How would you define CI. I’m assuming you mean Christian Identity? I’d love to know cuz I got a pretty worrying response online 😅. Thanks!
  12. You seem very well versed in various new age Christian philosophies and I’m afraid that I am not 😅. If ECT is what I THINK it is then I’d totally agree. It kinda takes responsibility away from us and just plays on people’s desire to turn away from accountability. But I think that, as you said, a type of universalism may be at play if “every knee will bow” and “every mouth confess Christ as lord” then wouldn’t, technically, all people come to the truth eventually? I’ve often pondered the subject because there are people in the world who’ve never even been exposed to the good news or were exposed to it in a corrupted fashion...and if God is a God of justice then I feel as though he’d have a plan for those people as well. Thanks!
  13. I agree with you both and, as I’ve read, that’s the same conclusion that I myself have come to. I feel as though this is actually coming pretty close to universalism though. There are plenty of verses in the Bible that describe universalism as a viable thing (and yes I know there are also verses that contradict it). What are your thoughts on this subject? Because it’s definitly interesting to me! Thanks again! 😁👍
  14. Ah I understand. So would you say that SALVATION ITSELF doesn’t come from what we do because none of us could EVER do enough to EARN our way to God? That being said I’m well aware that God still desires us to strive for holiness for holiness sake.
  15. Well I doubt they were “sinless” only Christ was. So maybe he was calling for them to renew their minds in Christ’s new covenant truth? To realize their imminent deaths in sin and turn to HIM for salvation rather than to THEMSELVES and their WORKS for salvation? Thank you for engaging with me!