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douge

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  1. All things will be gathered together in Christ Ephesians 1:10
  2. Paul taught a heavenly kingdom for the body of Christ. God is reconciling the earth through Israel and the heavens through the body of Christ (2 Timothy 4:18). Satan and his angels will be cast out of heaven and the body of Christ will be given authority in heavenly places.
  3. Paul has to be rightly divided. He was writing about the remnant of Israel in Romans 9 through 11. The Gentiles he spoke of believed the gospel of the kingdom preached by Jesus and the twelve....the Davidic earthly kingdom promised Israel. These are the Gentiles grafted into Israel as part of the remnant who will enter the earthly kingdom: Romans 9 through 11 is about Israel, not the church, the body of Christ. Romans 9:24 Not only the Jews believed the gospel of the kingdom, and the preaching of Jesus and the twelve, but also Gentiles (Acts 10:45). This was not our gospel of grace. They only believed on the name of Jesus (John 3:18 John 20:31). Romans 9:27 This is identifying the remnant of Israel as what Paul is talking about. The remnant is the believing Jews and Gentiles who will enter the promised kingdom on earth (Isaiah 2:2-3 Exodus 19:5-6). Romans 9:30 Those Gentiles had faith, which Israel rejected. Romans 11:5 At the time Paul was writing, the remnant of Israel, Jew and Gentile, were participants in the church. Romans 11:11 The believing Gentiles would provoke unbelieving Israel to jealousy. Romans 11:13 Paul was speaking to the Gentiles, not in the body of Christ, but in the remnant of Israel. Romans 11:17 The Gentiles were grafted into the remnant of Israel. Romans 11:20 Unbelieving Israel was broken off the tree. The Gentiles were grafted in by faith Romans 11:20 The Gentiles could also be broken off branches. Romans 11:25-27 Israel will be saved.
  4. Deuteronomy 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Israel failed to possess all the land promised them because they were unable to keep the commandments given them. Jesus did not abolish the need for Israel to keep the commandments: Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. The remnant of Israel would keep the commandments during the tribulation through the power of the Spirit (Acts 1:8): Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. The remnant of Israel will be made kings and priests in the kingdom on earth: Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
  5. Paul did not teach lawlessness or that grace teaches us we are free to sin.
  6. Even Peter in 2 Peter 3:15-16 said what Paul preached was scripture. Jesus gave Paul the gospel he preaches.
  7. A lot of people have trouble with this verse. Some think we can be baptized for dead people. In this passage Paul was correcting some saying there was no resurrection. This verse is only saying that if there is no resurrection then when we die that is it. Just trying to explain the passage.
  8. Deuteronomy 4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever. Israel has been given the earth forever. Israel, not the church today, the body of Christ, will reign on the earth as kings and priests according to Revelation 5:10.
  9. You are right in saying that to Peter it was revealed Gentiles could be saved, however, the gospel preached and believed was not the gospel given to Paul, but the the gospel of the kingdom, the promised kingdom on earth. This is the gospel to be preached in Matthew 28:18-20 and it was to be preached in that kingdom to the Gentile nations.
  10. The Gentiles who responded to the preaching of Peter, the gospel of the kingdom. The Gentiles before Paul. These are the Gentiles grafted into Israel. Paul preached the heavenly kingdom.
  11. Numbers 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. Numbers 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. The serpent of brass made by Moses pictured the Lord Jesus Christ. Whosoever would look upon Christ, lifted up, and believe in him, would be saved, as seen in John. John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Isaiah and the prophets would speak of Christ, God in the flesh, and those who would look unto him. Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. John spoke of those who would look on the Son of God. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John also spoke of Christ being lifted up on the cross. John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. John 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die. Christ was made to be the fiery serpent of our sin. Christ takes our sin and gives us his righteousness. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
  12. douge

    PETER AND PAUL

    Fail. You just moved the goalposts. I was asked specifically show you, and I quote you, "a verse where Jesus or Peter say the gospel hinges on his death, burial and resurrection," and I did exactly that. All these verses only speak to Israel of believing on Christ, believing on his name. The twelve did not understand when he spoke of his death and resurrection, which was to redeem Israel (Mark 9:32) so how could they preach it for salvation as does Paul.
  13. douge

    PETER AND PAUL

    That too would be a Fail. 1 Peter 3:18-22 "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to Him." The KJV does not say all in 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: Christ died for the new testament for the sins of Israel, but as I said Paul revealed it was applied for all.
  14. It was, as you said, to the apostles Christ gave this command, not the body of Christ, the church in this dispensation of grace. They were to preach the gospel given them, the gospel of the kingdom, the kingdom of heaven on earth. Matthew 28:18-20 is not for us, it was for the period of the kingdom on earth in which the Israel of God would reign with Christ over the nations. They were to baptize the Gentiles and teach the Gentiles nations in the kingdom on earth during the thousand year reign all that Christ commanded them.
  15. You've just contradicted yourself. No....the only way God could forgive Israel under the law or Jew and Gentile in this dispensation is by the blood. There are different gospels, but salvation is only by Christ and his blood.
  16. Works Only to enter the kingdom and reign with Christ. For eternal life they had to believe on Christ, they had to believe on his name as Christ, the Son of God.
  17. douge

    PETER AND PAUL

    None of the verses given say anything about being justified by the cross. Only Paul says that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose for our justification. Jesus died and resurrected according to prophecy. He shed his blood of the new testament for the forgiveness of sins committed under the old testament, for Israel only. Only Paul revealed it was for all. Jesus and the twelve preached only eternal life by believing on him and that he was the Christ, the Son of God.
  18. My fault for not making clear, Paul was saying what the implications are if they say there is no resurrection.
  19. I do not disregard any scripture, it is profitable for learning and instruction, but all can not be applied or obeyed, it must be rightly divided. The gospel Jesus and the twelve preached is true, but was for Israel, at that time. Our gospel is found in Paul.
  20. See James 5:7 The coming of the Lord to establish the kingdom. They had to be justified by keeping the commandments to be righteous to enter the kingdom.
  21. There are different gospels, but there is no other provision for salvation apart from the blood sacrifice of Christ.
  22. douge

    PETER AND PAUL

    Please show me a verse where Jesus or Peter say the gospel hinges on his death, burial and resurrection.
  23. These Gentiles believed the preaching of Peter, and Peter preached the gospel of the kingdom, which the remnant of Israel believed.......therefore the Gentiles were part of the remnant, to provoke Israel to jealousy.
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