RonaldBruno

I have a different interpretation of the serpent. As the people were bitten by this serpent, sin has cursed us all. So as the serpent is lifted up, Christ became sin and was lifted up on the cross to die for us (as the scripture states God gave His only begotten Son to do).

Rev. 11:15 The Seventh Trumpet is the Last Trumpet
The one event that is the key to understanding when the Church is taken up is at the Last Trumpet. (1 Thes. 4:16, 17 & 1 Cor. 15:52)
The Pre-Tribbers MUST therefore reject the 7th Trumpet as being the last trumpet. If the 7th is the last, then their whole scenario is flawed. It means we must endure through the Seals and six trumpets, yet we will avoid the wrath of God which comes in the Seven Bowls. The problem with Post-Tribbers is, they insist that the Church much endure the entire GT or die in the midst. God does not appoint us to wrath though but will suffer some of the Great Tribulation (or those days prior to the rapture). If there was a trumpet after the 7^th, then it would be the 8^th. If before the 7^th, it wouldn’t be the last.

Many things that support this trumpet as the last is that many things that you would expect happen occur at this time:
1. The mystery of God is revealed (Rev. 10:7 refers to the 7th trumpet) This mystery is spoken of in 1 Cor. 15:51-53, which speaks of the last trumpet. “but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.”Rev. 10:7
2. The kingdoms of the world have become the Lord's. Evidently He just appeared to cause this to happen. (Rev. 11:15)
3. The dead are resurrected and judged also. (Rev. 11:18)
4. we receive rewards according to our deeds. (Rev. 11:18)
5. The Temple of God is open in heaven. (Rev. 11:19)                                                                                                 6. Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath are released!

Matt. 24:31 is the same Trumpet referred to in 1 Thes. 4:16, 17 & 1 Cor. 15:52 & Rev. 11:15.
 As for Rev. 10:7, as previously mentioned is a reference to the 7^th Trumpet: Do you know what the "mystery" is that will be revealed at this time? The mystery is what our resurrected bodies will be like. We know we will be like Christ, but only eye witnesses gave seen His resurrected body and even they did not know what His body was fully capable of. Appearing, disappearing, entering in and out of the spiritual realm into the physical, ascending ... might as well say flying like angels. At that moment of our resurrection _ wow _ the answer to the question _ the experience everyone has been waiting _ that is the mystery.

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The Gap Theory (based on Daniel 9:24-27)

"Seventy weeks are determined ...
>God ordains a specific time frame, a prophecy announcing the arrival of Christ, the Savior, the Messiah, whom since the beginning was promised. God is sovereign, He knows the future. Did something happen that changed His mind, something He did not expect - forcing His Hand to change plans and extend, (put a gap in) the last week of the prophecy for 2000 years? NO! He knew exactly what was going to happen! The Messiah came in the last week. The week wasn't completed - didn't have to be. It was accurately stated that He would be cut off<

...concerning thy people and concerning thy holy city
>This was a message TO the Israelites and Jerusalem - not to the world! <

...to finish the transgression and to make an end of sins,
>For those who believed it was finished, their eternity was sealed in Christ. When Jesus said, "It is finished", that is what He meant. In heaven, outside of time, death was defeated. On earth, death was defeated die believers.<

... and to make reconciliation for iniquity,
> The Law was fuffilled. A way for Man was then made available to be reconciled to God.<

... and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
>Jesus is righteous. He brought his righteousness and imputed it to believers.<

... ‘and to’ seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy.
> and to means “in order to” or “to begin to” seal up prophecy. The disciples began that process. The New Testament was written, finished and sealed up.

…Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks and threescore and two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times.
 

On 12/10/2020 at 2:21 PM, kingdombrat said:

Going back to the idea of Evolution.   If humanity arrived from the process of Evolution, wouldn't those be without [SIN}?

 

If Adam was [Created] by God, a special Creation because from Adam would eventually lead to the Messiah, once he fell he caused a sin chain reaction to take place in humanity from that point.

 

But if we have 2 [origins] to human life, Creation and Evolution, and through Creation it eventually led to a [sinful nature], are those humans [if Evolution is factual] free from sin because they are not from the Creation point of Adam?

 

The Bible claims [ALL] have sinned and fell short...((but isn't "ALL" meaning ALL that was from Adam?))...Does [SIN] actually disprove Evolution?

That's an angle I never thought of. Brilliant! You are absolutely correct, if we evolved without God, sin would not exist. We know sin because of God's Law/Commandments. He gave Adam and Eve one law to follow, "Don't eat of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil". They failed. Then later on, He gave the Ten Commandments. From these we know what sin is. Without the Law, there is no sin and so of course without God, there is no law (unless it was manmade). 

On 11/2/2020 at 9:35 PM, Ki Won said:

The seven religions are Judaism (Orthodox and Zionism), Islam (Sunni and Shia), Buddhism (Theravada and Mahayana), Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Taoism and Ba'bism/Bahá'i. (7 names /10 branches/10 crowns)

 

The respective "messiahs" are Mashiach, Mahdi , Maitreya, Kalki, Saoshyant, Li Hong and "he whom God will make manifest" . (7 "messiahs"/7 heads) 

I would agree that all false religions are created by Satan and adding to that list, false philosophies, astrology, occult practices, atheism as well. And how convenient it would be to have already made these religions, billions already worship this Beast. But I think the error in this view is that you included Judaism, which God created. So that is the flaw. They have been blinded for a purpose, so that the Gentile world can be offered salvation through Christ and be grafted in. (Romans 11). And so their Mashiach, is Jesus, they just are blind to that reality. Their blindness will be lifted during the Great Tribulation.

There are many antichrists - currently over five billion. All are antichrists who are not "in Christ".  However, in the End Time scenario, One Antichrist takes control of the world. He is empowered by Satan because He demonstrates super-natural powers.

"And in the latter time of the their kingdom,                                                                                                                                         When the transgressors have reached their fullness,                                                                                                                                     A king shall arise, having fierce features,                                                                                                                                                      Who understands sinister schemes.                                                                                                                                                                  His power shall be mighty but not by his own power,                                                                                                                                He shall destroy fearfully,                                                                                                                                                                                And shall prosper and thrive;                                                                                                                                                                            He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people." Daniel 8:23, 24

"He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,                                                                                                                           Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,                                                                                                                                            And shall intend to change times and law.                                                                                                                                              Then the saints shall be given into his hand                                                                                                                                                    For a time and times and a half a time." Daniel 7:25

About Rev. 13:3 >>> The seven heads represent seven nations. Its ten horns represent ten kings (presidents/leaders). One of the leaders becomes the Antichrist.

Facts: Biblical history surrounds Israel. God's chosen people have been defeated, enslaved by the Beast that has manifested itself as Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Medo-Persian, Greece and Rome in different times. In current times, what countries surround Israel? Islamic. 

"All nations will come against Jerusalem. "And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut to pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it." Zech. 12:3

I am torn between this New World Order that we are now being controlled by as the Beast, that will usher us into this One World Government, a socialist utopian model, headed by the elites (Rothschilds and the ultra-rich like Gates) and Islam as the Beast. If Islam is not the Beast, then it is very likely that they will be manipulated to attack Israel and then later be destroyed by the Antichrist.

The other scenario in which the Beast is Islam, the Antichrist will come from  Iran, Syria, Turkey or Iraq and will join other Islamic nations together to attack Israel.  However, I can't imagine that a Mahdi could rule the world, any one of those countries don't have the power to do so. Antichrist would need to have control over the US, China, Russia, Britain, the European Union, etc. Satan is manipulating the entire world at this time. 

I am not sure who is the Antichrist, nor can anyone else name him. Soros, Gates or someone who is never mentioned in the Media, like the Rothschilds, who work behind the scenes comes to mind. It's a spiritual war unbeknownst to them and they are just pawns used by Satan. The Rothschilds and Soros are Jewish, however Soros is an atheist, Gates as well. ???

I believe this Covid-19 is diabolical. Satan works to control people by fear, lies and deception - all of which has surrounded this virus. I hear what this Great Reset has in store for us is Covid-21, a more deadly virus that would require ( when they get that vaccine) for everyone to take the vaccine. It is a dark cloud covering the world now. Someone interpreted the Rider on the White horse as the Antichrist, who has a crown (coronavirus), with a bow and goes out to conquer (as we have experienced). Then the Red Horse brings war - could be Red China. ??? What follows WWIII and world-wide collapsed economy? Famine (the Rider on the Black Horse), and Death (Pale Horse). Sad, but this will only last 3 1/2 years. 

I have studied this for 25 years and still don't have a grasp of it all, don't think anyone does! You'd think a pastor and excellent teacher like John MacArthur would have a grasp of it, but I see flaws in his view. I saw many flaws in Tim LaHaye's Left Behind Series. 

Certainly the Sun has power to scorch the earth as you say. This is confirmed upon the release of the 4th Bowl of His Wrath: "Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire." Rev. 16:8

I could certainly add to the list with ( Is. 1:28; 33:14; 34:8-11. Zeph. 1:18; Zech. 12:9; Ezek. 20:47-48).

One scripture in particular stands out, Zech. 14:12: "Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth." NASB

Most translations us the word "rot".  The KJV uses "consume". NKJ says, "dissolve". The point is,  this happens when people are standing on their feet _ quickly _ before they drop to the ground. This is exactly the effects of a nuclear/neutron bomb blast. It hits and dissolves all your flesh before you drop.

Back to the Solar flare. If Rev.16:8 is when this happens, that would be towards the end of the Great Tribulation. Many things happen prior to this. 

As we see now, pestilence and more coming. This can be the Rider on the White horse, who brings a crown (coronavirus) and goes out and conquers the world. This virus is trying to conquer the world. It is diabolical in the sense that  it has lies and fear surrounding it. This is what Satan uses to control and conquer us.

So then the other horsemen bring war, famine and death to 1/4 of the population. Still more to come, the trumpets blow.

Trumpet #1 > Fire, hail and blood are released. 1/3 of the grass and trees on earth are burned. I would imagine that all cities in that area are toast too.

Trumpet #2 > Something like a huge mountain on fire gets thrown into the sea and kills 1/3 of the life in the sea and destroys 1/3 of the sea vessels. * This can be a super-volcanic eruption?

T3 > A star falls from heaven that is blazing like a torch. It poisons 1/3 of all the rivers and springs, causing death to those who drink it. Wormwood -- could be nuclear fallout, or and asteroid?

T4 > Darkness covering 1/3 of the planet, blocking out sunlight and moonlight.

T5 > Is a big woe! And He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace ..." This verse also supports a volcanic eruption but also with it an entrance into the deep caverns of the earth where demons dwell, releasing them as demonic locusts that torture mankind for 5 months - Woe!

T6 > Four angels are released to kill another 1/3 of the remaining people. 200 million demons (I imagine them possessing 200M men) in war on earth. 

T7 > I think is the rapture and the release of the bowls of wrath as well.

So let's tally this. Death to 1/4 of the population which is currently 7.8 billion = 1.95 billion. That leaves 5.85 billion. Then death to 1/3 of them = 1.95 billion, leaving 3.9 billion. Now the current body of Christ is said to have 2.5 billion believers, so roughly 1/3 of the world are Christian. Then of this 3.9 billion left, it stands to reason that 1/3 of them are Christian = 1.3 billion. This means almost half of us died in the Great Tribulation already. So the rapture takes the rest of us 3.9 billion -1.3 billion = 2.6 billion unbelievers left on earth for God's bowls of wrath.

Take a breath, it's awful ... the end is near. From the bottom of my heart, I would prefer the Pre-Trib rapture to be correct, and I'm hoping I'm wrong, cause I would rather not go through this, but persecution, martyrs for Christ, heads being chopped off are going to continue. If we look at Islamic countries, Christians there suffer these things. 

Get ready! Put your armor on and hold onto your faith! The Good News is - what comes after it's all over!

On 7/29/2020 at 2:23 PM, JTC said:

I'm asking a serious question here. Until this year I never even thought about The Left then the virus happened and now violence. I hear talk of the Left but who would they be?  Obviously they are fanatics, possibly even crazy people. But I also consider the Nazis of WW2 to be crazy fanatics.

Let me hear what some of you have to say.

Here is a comparison of Right and Left, Conservative and Liberal  I found to be fairly on point.

https://notesread.com/difference-left-right-liberal-conservative/

A more strict and severe definition of the Left will soon be experienced if Biden gets in and we lose the Senate. He will usher us into the Globalist/One World Government, a Utopian ideology that can't work because of sin in the world. They might have apparent good intentions like solving world hunger, creating world peace,  live in a pollution free environment, but it is all a façade, looks good on paper, but those on top always become corrupt, power hungry and greedy, leading to a totalitarian monster ... ruled by the Antichrist. That's right, that is prophesied and that is where we are headed. Thankfully it will only last 3 1/2 years and Christ will return and destroy the whole system.

This of course is a view of the extreme Left, which not many of the Democrats believe will happen. They've been duped, lied to. Most of them think we will just get back to the Clinton years or the Obama years. They don't think this NWO is evil, they think it is good. As Isaiah 5:20 says, we are living in an upside down world, when people believe good is evil and darkness is light. Woe to them says the Lord. This progressive view of the future is unrealistic. It can't work, it's been tried and has failed! But God sends them a strong delusion so that they believe the lies. I think they've watched to many sci-fi movies. They should really talk to some Russians who grew up under the Soviet Union regime or Cubans. They will warn them of the lies they were told, the poverty and freedoms they did not have. Talk to the Venezuelans, they wait in long lines for food. Russians worked all day long then got in a line, not knowing what the line was for, but knew they needed it, toilet paper or coffee, food, everyday things we take for granted. Our grocery stores have abundance now. When communism fell and they saw what the West had, they cried. They walked into grocery stores, department stores, saw how we lived and enjoyed life and just cried. They were lied to. Well, we are being lied to now and at least a 1/3 of the country is falling for. Of course as Bernie says, they do not have in mind socialism like the former USSR or even Venezuela. They are speaking of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, etc. I guess the elites, like Gates and Soros think of a new and improved socialism, a bright one, not dark. How bright is killing off 2/3 of the population, downsizing the world to a more workable population, say 500 million. Is being progressive require deadly viruses and vaccines that include also genetic manipulation, which will kill more people or sterilize them, rendering them  unable to procreate? It's interesting how this virus kills five times as many Blacks and seven times as many Hispanics as if it was altered in some way to do so? I don't know, that is speculation. But what if they target certain races, like those who are impoverished in Africa and give them the vaccines that just kill or at least sterilize them? How bright a future do they have? Is that being progressive? Imagine finding out that most of the elderly in your town are dead and that most of the young  cannot have kids? Don't worry, it won't progress too far before Christ intervenes.

20 hours ago, Uri said:

 

Brother, you are preaching to the choir.

Btw that Ontario piece came to light in July.

February 2019: "We will never, be, a socialist, country"

Globalists: "Hold my beer"

COVID-19, BLM/Antifa, Coin "shortage", "stimulus", stolen election, etc. Etc.

 

Just heard Mark Stein say that three epidemiologists from Harvard and Stamford said that lockdowns don't work! They may delay the virus but not stop it. Nor will masks stop it. They do help - pro an to be 40% effective, which better than not wearing them. But people are careless, touch their mask, use it over and over again. What about our clothes, how often do we change and wash them. Remember initially Fauci said masks won't help that much and then changes his story. He is not reliable or trustworthy.

Today I also heard that the Pfizer vaccine requires extremely low temperatures to keep it from becoming ineffective, losing its potency.

-94 F degrees / -70 C degrees What? So, many facilities aren't equipped to handle that and neither are many foreign and poor countries.

They have to keep it in dry ice, which lasts 10 hours and then need to transfer it into another freezer. 

Moderna (Bill Gates invested company) is ready with their vaccine which only meeds -20C degrees, with also a higher rate of reliability. I guess they will favor that one. 

9 hours ago, Uri said:

Nuclear war, chemical and biological....I was prepared for that nightmare. 

Watching "the church" cower by deception in fear to "obey those in authority" or risk being ostracized or losing their 501(c)(3) status?

No, I wasn't prepared for this.

Watching families and a nation hand itself over without a fight in mass mania?

No, I wasn't prepared. 

To God be the glory, and every man a liar.

Well, fear is a way to  control people who are weak in the faith. Our natural tendency is to respond to our fears by doing everything physically in our power to control or resolve the situation. The unknown is not controllable. Lies and deception keep us in the dark, so we cooperate and take necessary precautions. Quarantine, self distancing, hygiene have been used for thousands of years. Everyone stayed away from the Lepers. It is a wise response to an epidemic as long as we are getting the facts straight. We aren't. 

This is why I call it a spiritual war. It is Satan who has cast a dark cloud over the world.

News of a cure should relieve many, but we already had hydroxychloriquine - for which they quickly shunned and denied. And btw, the sun gives us vitamin D and/or we can take it as a supplement along with zinc and Vitamin C as well. I personally trust in natural cures only and faith.

But for those who think it will come to an end once they deliver the vaccine, think again. I don't want to add to your fears, but this whole virus was diabolically planned. I suspect they released it purposely and are perpetuating this. Can you imagine an 18 month plan for Covid? A Canadian politician (whistle blower) just revealed this plan. There will be a Covid-21 - more deadly released and so as we are just getting over this virus, here comes another we will have to deal with. Vaccines will be enforced as well as more lockdowns ( happening already) and finally the Globalist agenda - to collapse the world economies in order to implement the One World Government. Shocking and a bit fearful, but it is written, described in detail in our Bibles! We won't have much of a choice - talk about redistribution of wealth. These elitists will lose nothing and gain everything - except for their souls that is. All of us will have to relinquish our assets and pour them into a big bucket for the world to share - to even things out. A universal pay ( income equality) will be instantly imposed. If you refuse the vaccines, you will be considered an enemy of society, be put in an isolation camp will lose your freedoms or your lives.

We are going to need our spiritual armor! 

On 11/12/2020 at 5:15 PM, integrity said:

. I DO NOT THINK ITS OKAY TO JUST "FORGIVE" SOMEONE WITHOUT REPENTANCE

There is the obstacle in the way of healing and that is forgiveness.

I struggled too and was confused about this concept of forgiveness. While the disciples asked Jesus, "How many times shall we forgive our brothers?" 7 x 70 was His answer. So in essence, who is going to count _  so keep forgiving. Notice the question pertained to "our brothers". What about non-believers? Shall we treat them differently? Turn the cheek a few times _ but for how long? My biggest problem went like this: God forgives those who ask for it and turn to Him. So why do I have to forgive someone especially if they are not a Christian, they keep repeating the offences and they don't intend on asking for it? I couldn't get beyond that for some time.

And then I concluded that in the end, GOD will not forgive everyone, but will in fact destroy billions of people in His wrath and Judgment. Even way before Judgme t Day, He takes us all out at an appointed time - when your time comes, which is already determined, you die! There is one life, one death and then the Judgment.

It took years for me to understand forgiveness. Finally, I realized it wasn't so much for the other person you are forgiving (because sometimes they don't give a hoot whether you do or not); IT IS FOR YOU.

When you realize that people are fallen creatures,  sinners who without the Grace of God could not be saved or do any good; and that God is sovereign, has a perfect plan for everyone, whether that involves salvation or judgment; then you can comfort in that no one gets away with anything. Justice is in His hands and not really in ours. We can't fix the world or anybody, only God can. When you realize this, you completely release the burden you carry and give it to Him. You can get rid of all the grievances, grudges, the negative emotions and thoughts that have been an obstacle and give them to the Lord. Then, you will be free to be healed in those areas. Besides God says if you don't forgive others, He won't forgive you. Also when you can forgive others ( who didn't even ask and are still evil, you sweep hot coals over their heads. In other words, you put it in their laps to deal with and they are usually confounded. This is how loving your enemies has an effect in them, who expect anger, hate, retaliation in return - not love and kindness. They usually feel guilt and shame, unless they are callous and too far gone. Just let them go.

Finally, we could not fully understand good unless we experienced what it was like to be without it. How could we really understands all God's attributes: love, joy, peace, forgiveness, mercy, Grace, blessings, kindness, faith or hope if we didn't know their opposites. Such is life, filled with good and evil. Know the difference between them, be reconciled with God _ that's our purpose.

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

He kills 1.5-2 billion people That = Death and THE GRAVE (Hades means Grave not hell). 

Hades/Sheol is more than 6 feet deep. It is the where all reprobates go. This includes a separate ream beneath the crust of the earth called the Bottomless Pit/Abyss, where demons dwell, are locked up and reserved for a time when they will be released to inflict torture and destruction on mankind during the GT. The 5th trumpet blows a 200 million demon locusts (who look like horse) are released. After 5 months of torture, they change form and become similar horse like demons with lion heads who breathe fire, smoke and sulfur. We can imagine this to be manifest as a possible super volcanic eruption. The smoke fills the sky, blocks the sun (sackcloth).

7 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

LOOK at what this man does.

He Conquers..........He Brings War (takes away peace). Look in Dan. 8:25, he DESTROYS MANY by Peace. That is why the Red Horse TAKES AWAY Peace, when in reality, he brings War. God wants us to know he comes to power first, via PEACE. 

His Wars do what all wars do, brig FAMINE (Black Horse). And of course he kills 1.5 to 2 Billion people, which brings Death & the Grave, of course.

This man ... conquers, brings, war, famine and death? Following your logic, the four riders of different horses are just figuratively referring to the actions of the Antichrist. So figuratively, you are saying the Antichrist is riding all the horses.

I don't think so for several reasons. These events accumulate and overlap towards the end. And for my other claims I have already stated.

These horses and riders are from the spiritual realm- whether angels or fallen angels.

Examine 2 Kings 6:17

 They deliver the disasters quioft spread quickly and of course are manifest physically as pestilence, death, famine and wars. The Bible tells us what specifically the Antichrist does, that he is given power by Satan, conquers the world, but apparently he hasn't been possessed by Satan yet and we have waves if pestilence and more to come that are conquering the world already. It is being delivered prior to his reign.

Later on in Rev. 9 we see four angels released to kill 1/3 of the population as well. 

Now for instance, if  Gates or Soros was the Antichrist (and both are antichrists), with their investments in these bio labs and vaccines, we could say one of them set this pestilence loose, but the rider delivered it on an individual basis and spread it to the  to hundreds of millions of people.

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

Of course this whole scenario debunks a Pre-Trib view, which claimed are gone before any of this happens. So they must deny that we are in it - for how much longer I wonder?

4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Since when do we call an Angel HE ?

Since when is a human named Death with Hades following after "him" - the rider of the pale horse? I would suggest that rider is the Angel of Death.

Since when did you see a firey horse. I would lean towards the concept that these horses are spiritual as well as the riders on them coming from heaven. In chapter 19 we see Christ accompanied by an army of angels riding horses. 

14 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

No, the crown is shown to be made of TWINE which represents something WON

So a heavenly rider (whom O think is an angel) is riding a spiritual white horse, wearing a man-made crown made of twine _ that was given to him because he won it _ before he conquers?

14 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Its not an Angel, this is the Anti-Christ. The way he conquers is via his TIMING.

The virus is delivered by an  angel to prepare his rule. Could be Bill Gates or Soros. I used to think maybe a Rothschild nut their wealth doesn't seem to ne as great as it once was.

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

IMHO, the Gog and Magog war is Russia, Turkey and Iran being taken out (militarily speaking) and thus clearing the way for this E.U

I think they will go against Israel for sure - could be very soon since peace treaties are angering them.

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Then Rev. 8 shows 1/3 of the World is hit by an Asteroid, I assume that is going to hit off the California Coast, there is one that would hit there on April, 13, 2029

OR a super-volcanic eruption ("something like a mountain thrown into the sea").

2029 - ? Stuff is accelerating now.

Here's a glimpse of the Great Reset/Globalism in 2021

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-10-19-world-leaders-planning-world-debt-reset-program.html#

8 hours ago, Don19 said:

Well, it looks like Biden has by far the best chance of winning as of this moment. Not impossible for Trump to win, but it sure looks like Biden will win.

If so, that means God has chosen Joe Biden as His servant to carry out His own will, just as He chose and ordained Trump as president four years ago for the same reason. Thank God for His choice, knowing that all things work together for good to those who love Him and are the called according to His purpose! You think that men are in control of what happens in this universe? Ha! God sets up kings and removes kings (Daniel 2:21). I assure you, regardless of whether Trump wins or Biden wins, God wins! He always wins!

Why would God appoints Biden, a corrupt Senator? The only reason would be to show us how corrupt this country is, so He allows us to have a bad president, to punish us partly but mainly because the US has been the obstacle to the New World Order. The Great Reset meeting in January will initiate many changes. This ushers in the rule of Antichrist and One World Government. So it is necessary, planned and prophesied to happen.

Now Trump will fight this election in the Supreme Court. He may or may not win. If he does, then.maybe his real purpose (after he beefed up the military) is to go to war and press buttons when missiles start flying our way.

But you are correct -  Rom. 13:1, 2 says He appoints all leaders whether good or bad for a purpose.

1 hour ago, Drafido said:

Atheists have congregations, they even have their own church now (though I doubt many of them attend!).  Forgive me, but I remain skeptical about statistics.

I think the homosexuals get a lot of support from heterosexuals, which would boost their numbers in general.  

That's an interesting story about your Dad.  I think the older generation were less outspoken in their atheism because it was almost like a social taboo in those days, yet they did hold to traditional religious ways, things have changed now with the internet.  It's also interesting how some people can hold a grudge against God when their loved ones die and yet still call themselves atheists!  It's good to hear he made his peace with God before he passed away.  

We never know how God is working in the lives of the unbeliever. They rebel, resist for decades sometimes. We refuse invitations, outward callings to go to church, reject witnesses, toss Gospel tracts in the garbage and so they learn the hard way. I didn't become a Christian until I was 35, 30 years ago. Sometimes we are so steeped in habits and/or materialism that GOD has to to strip those things away first to get our attention. In my Dads case it was his health that was fading and the Grim Reaper was knocking on the door! That usually works - unless they are truly a reprobate. But God lets some of these reprobates go early on in their lives as Romans 1 tells us. These individuals are wicked though, with a quite different life and attitude as those who are His sheep. I think of some of the most brilliant men who  were fools, like Stephen Hawking for instance. He was already judged in his life before he died. People like him and Richard Dawkins led many astray to believe lies

19 hours ago, Drafido said:

If the worldwide population of atheists is only 10%, how come the internet is filled to the brim with atheists commenting everywhere?  Somehow I am not convinced with this 10% figure.  It seems more likely that the statistics are skewed somehow.

They don't go to church or or any other religious place of worship. Christian church provides a loving atmosphere, fellowship, a sense of direction and purpose. Atheists don't have that so they must flock to the internet, follow other atheists, cling to the TOE, and  find a their support group - or be a silent private person -anti-social type.  Btw, there are only 2-3% homosexuals, yet they have a pronounced presence, parading, demanding their rights and getting into everyone business.

My Dad was an atheist, but he kept his believes to himself, because he knew it would create a disturbance. He was the silent, private type who just kept his personal beliefs to himself - to avoid ostracism or heated discussions. He did not like to rock the boat. A real gentleman, patient and good father. He made his peace with God just prior to his death at 83 years old. He was in God's list and God was caring for him all along his journey. At ten years old, his Dad became sick with TB and was dying. Being brought up in a Catholic family with seven sisters, with the little he knew how, he got on his knees and prayed for his Dads life. God said no, so he didn't believe anymore and was angry too _ for a very long time. Then later on my brother died at a young age and he said he believed less because of that. But it was interesting how he lived his life grounded in Biblical principals that he was talk by his parents and sisters. He even passed down many of those principles to his kids. As an adult, He believed in the TOE too. But later on in life after I became a Christian, I would ask him, "Where do you think the Golden Rule came from and many of the other principles he taught us?" He said they evolved from civilization! I said, "No they didn't" and told him they came from God's Word.

3 hours ago, canada said:

Remember that the mark is placed on right hand and/or forehead and that sign is placed upon the forehead of infant RC's at their baptism

Well obviously, the infant won't be able to buy or sell and receive eternal judgment ... evil kid - he's doesn't have any money anyways! Can you imagine, God created and formed this child in the womb and the RC just ruined everything by putting this sign on the little guy's head? Angels will have their day, throwing these infants into the blazing Lake of Fire!

I  D O N ' T   T H I N K   S O.

For many years I thought the mark of the Beast was the Islamic Symbol for (In the name of Allah) which is worn on the foreheads or sleaves by Islamic terrorists. Looking at the Arabic symbols, they have a very close resemblance to the Greek word for 666. For years (and I still do suspect), that Islam is the Beast and that the ten-nations gathered together by the Antichrist will be Islamic nations. These nations will attack Israel. 

But recently with this pandemic flared up and now a new possibility, (which has been suggested for many years) that the mark will be some sort of computer chip that we receive, with information, thus allowing us to buy or sell. 

On 10/28/2020 at 11:31 AM, FluffyBunny. said:

 

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Hello,

how do you feel about the decrease in Christianity and the increase in atheism in the US? Do you think society will become worse, better or stay around the same?

After 160 years of the TOE being forcefed through the educatuinal system, atheism has not grown. Still only 10% of the population worldwide are atheists. All this theory has done is confuse and distort the traditional Biblical view of creation. So now we see almost half of Christianity  adopt a Theistic-Evolutionary view. To them, they must distort Genesis to conform with this view --  as if God started things out in a more simple form and then let evolution take its course. Might as well omit Genesis with that view.

 He made every living organism finished. However, changes occur ( adaptive mechanisms) within each kind. Each organism was designed this way, but not that one kind could evolve into something entirely different, like a reptile into a bird.

Btw, Christianity is right on track - if you believe that GOD is sovereign! He has written history and His plan is perfect, factoring in all our mistakes and flaws. His Book of life was completed long ago and so all who are in it, including those who haven't been born yet, will be saved.

So no worries. Evil is increasing but His elect will be called and they will respond. If salvation was left to man to choose God without God's help, we would all fail. He orchestrates the whole process, prepares our path, lifts the veil of blindness and enables us to come to Him. 

16 hours ago, canada said:

The devotees of Romanism bow down to and kiss the toe of a great bronze graven image of "Peter" within the walls of the Vatican.  But that's ok?   How about the images of "Mary", their mediatrix?

 

 

No, it's not. But  Catholics would tell you they don't worship the statues, that  would be a sin. There are those who get carried away with emotion or believe they, by their symbolic gesture, are kissng the feet of Christ, dispalying some super-spiritual outward reverence and they are wrong. Worshipping or praying to Mary or the Saints is   empty, repetitious prayers while touching Rosary beads is certainly am improper religious tradition.The Lord's Prayer is  not useless and if you can't utter a specific prayer, to say that one is fine, God knows your heart and what our needs are.

I would not begin to argue against Luther's  95 Thesis - I just would not make a serious judgment the voids 1 billion Catholics of their faith in Christ just because they err in some practices.

Jesus said the requirement of salvation was to believe in Him, that He died for our sins and rose on the third day. That is the gospel. And realize that  the Catholic Church  carried that specific gospel for 1000 years prior to the Reformation and I believe still are.

There are just as many Prostestant sinners as there are  Catholic sinners!

15 hours ago, canada said:

Vicar Of Christ ...  vicarious ... in stead of Christ ... in the place of Christ.

I understood that to mean an ambassador, a highly respected, honored, educated, authoritative representive of Christ who matured and rise through the ranks within. We are all priests and ambassadors. But I view Popes as the heads of The Roman Catholic Church. Like any corporation has a CEO. 

The Holy Spirit dwells in our temples individually and so speaks through us on occasion. 

12 hours ago, canada said:

RC blasphemy.

This is why the Reformation took place. And they do still are in their practices, much of which is useless. Still they believe in Christ as their Lord and Savior. Do you think all Protestants live and practice righteously? Don't you realize that no church is perfect and that Jesus rebukes five out of seven churches in the first century for all sorts of sins?

12 hours ago, canada said:

No matter your "context" ... the bow is literally  toxon ... simple fabric ... twined or wreathed.  Check out Strong's.

So I suppose this simple twined frabric is woven my human hands then given to this Rider in the White Horse to wear? 

16 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

The Flu Pandemic of 1918-19 basically ended WWI and was more deadly than WWI itself.

Source: 1918-19 Flu Pandemic

It is not the deadlines if the virus; it is the worldwide fear and thus apparent diabolical control over us. It has conquered the will of man to submit, lockdown, quarantine, social distance, put the mask on and that has never happened. It has emboldened some of these governors and mayors with unwiedwd power. I just read some tweeted directed to Emporer Gavin Newsome. Then you have the lawlessness of anarchists in citues all over the country adding to the stress - as if the pandemic wasn't enough.

Now we are faced with a new wave, a spike in cases and to bring us to who knows what violence will be perpetrated next week. 

19 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

The White Horse is not the Corona Virus.  We've had much worse viruses in the past.

I didn't say the White Horse was. And yes there has been worse viruses, but not one that has had this kind of worldwide effect. The fear and precautions taken are more crippling then the virus itself. It would be just like Satan to deceive the world, cast a shadow of fear over something that is a little more deadly than the flu. 

17 hours ago, canada said:

The "bow" in this passage in the Greek is ... toxon ... simple fabric, twine or wreathed.

The papal "triple tiara" or crown is made of finely spun literal gold thread.

In this context, The Great Tribulation, the bow is a weapon, used for God's judgment. 

A Papal crown? So are you suggesting the Pope is the Antichrist?

9 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

There are still plenty of Toyota Corona's around. Maybe you have owned one or know someone with one.

Did the entire world lock down in fear of getting hit by a Toyota Corona? The only way that could happen is that if each driver was required to drink a six pack of Corona beers _ while driving!

13 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Is that what some paraphrase of Scripture says? Not accurate. Conquering, yes. The whole world, no.

Rev 6:1-2  Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see."  (2)  And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Horses are known for their strength and stamina. They keep going and going until exhausted.

Bows are ancient emblems of military power and rule.

Crowns are symbols of sovereignty. 

The number four speaks of foundation. 

The first seal is opened and Conquest, Conflict, Commodities, & Carnage are the first things shown.

These are general aspects of recorded history as it is, and the climactic unfolding of endtime events will prove them to be foundational to the end.  

So it's just a coincidence that a virus that was so named, because it looks like a crown went out and spread through the world to conquer, subdue it, surrounded by lies, and evil, paralyzing the world with fear (as would be expected from these Four Horsemen? OKAY - If you say so. No, I prefer your interpretation.

But let's look at your interpretation. Horses are carrying these judgments/ catastrophies with strength and stamina. It appears this virus is being carried with strength and stamina. Most viruses fizzle out by the summer months - lacking stamina ti be carried through another phase.

The crown (diadem), is given to a king. Many believe that the Rider in the White Horse is the Antichrist - not Jesus, who appears later wearing many diadems. Kings are known for what they accomplished. A person who subjects the world to a virus and succeeds must have great power as the Antichrist.