RonaldBruno

I have a different interpretation of the serpent. As the people were bitten by this serpent, sin has cursed us all. So as the serpent is lifted up, Christ became sin and was lifted up on the cross to die for us (as the scripture states God gave His only begotten Son to do).

Rev. 11:15 The Seventh Trumpet is the Last Trumpet The one event that is the key to understanding when the Church is taken up is at the Last Trumpet. (1 Thes. 4:16, 17 & 1 Cor. 15:52) The Pre-Tribbers MUST therefore reject the 7th Trumpet as being the last trumpet. If the 7th is the last, then their whole scenario is flawed. It means we must endure through the Seals and six trumpets, yet we will avoid the wrath of God which comes in the Seven Bowls. The problem with Post-Tribbers is, they insist that the Church much endure the entire GT or die in the midst. God does not appoint us to wrath though but will suffer some of the Great Tribulation (or those days prior to the rapture). If there was a trumpet after the 7th, then it would be the 8th. If before the 7th, it wouldn’t be the last. Many things that support this trumpet as the last is that many things that you would expect happen occur at this time: 1. The mystery of God is revealed (Rev. 10:7 refers to the 7th trumpet) This mystery is spoken of in 1 Cor. 15:51-53, which speaks of the last trumpet. “but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.”Rev. 10:7 2. The kingdoms of the world have become the Lord's. Evidently He just appeared to cause this to happen. (Rev. 11:15) 3. The dead are resurrected and judged also. (Rev. 11:18) 4. we receive rewards according to our deeds. (Rev. 11:18) 5. The Temple of God is open in heaven. (Rev. 11:19) 6. Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath are released! Matt. 24:31 is the same Trumpet referred to in 1 Thes. 4:16, 17 & 1 Cor. 15:52 & Rev. 11:15. As for Rev. 10:7, as previously mentioned is a reference to the 7th Trumpet: Do you know what the "mystery" is that will be revealed at this time? The mystery is what our resurrected bodies will be like. We know we will be like Christ, but only eye witnesses gave seen His resurrected body and even they did not know what His body was fully capable of. Appearing, disappearing, entering in and out of the spiritual realm into the physical, ascending ... might as well say flying like angels. At that moment of our resurrection _ wow _ the answer to the question _ the experience everyone has been waiting _ that is the mystery. ---------- The Gap Theory (based on Daniel 9:24-27) "Seventy weeks are determined ... >God ordains a specific time frame, a prophecy announcing the arrival of Christ, the Savior, the Messiah, whom since the beginning was promised. God is sovereign, He knows the future. Did something happen that changed His mind, something He did not expect - forcing His Hand to change plans and extend, (put a gap in) the last week of the prophecy for 2000 years? NO! He knew exactly what was going to happen! The Messiah came in the last week. The week wasn't completed - didn't have to be. It was accurately stated that He would be cut off< ...concerning thy people and concerning thy holy city >This was a message TO the Israelites and Jerusalem - not to the world! < ...to finish the transgression and to make an end of sins, >For those who believed it was finished, their eternity was sealed in Christ. When Jesus said, "It is finished", that is what He meant. In heaven, outside of time, death was defeated. On earth, death was defeated die believers.< ... and to make reconciliation for iniquity, > The Law was fuffilled. A way for Man was then made available to be reconciled to God.< ... and to bring in everlasting righteousness, >Jesus is righteous. He brought his righteousness and imputed it to believers.< ... ‘and to’ seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. > and to means “in order to” or “to begin to” seal up prophecy. The disciples began that process. The New Testament was written, finished and sealed up. …Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem until the Messiah the Prince, shall be seven weeks and threescore and two weeks; the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times.

That's an angle I never thought of. Brilliant! You are absolutely correct, if we evolved without God, sin would not exist. We know sin because of God's Law/Commandments. He gave Adam and Eve one law to follow, "Don't eat of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil". They failed. Then later on, He gave the Ten Commandments. From these we know what sin is. Without the Law, there is no sin and so of course without God, there is no law (unless it was manmade).

I would agree that all false religions are created by Satan and adding to that list, false philosophies, astrology, occult practices, atheism as well. And how convenient it would be to have already made these religions, billions already worship this Beast. But I think the error in this view is that you included Judaism, which God created. So that is the flaw. They have been blinded for a purpose, so that the Gentile world can be offered salvation through Christ and be grafted in. (Romans 11). And so their Mashiach, is Jesus, they just are blind to that reality. Their blindness will be lifted during the Great Tribulation. There are many antichrists - currently over five billion. All are antichrists who are not "in Christ". However, in the End Time scenario, One Antichrist takes control of the world. He is empowered by Satan because He demonstrates super-natural powers. "And in the latter time of the their kingdom, When the transgressors have reached their fullness, A king shall arise, having fierce features, Who understands sinister schemes. His power shall be mighty but not by his own power, He shall destroy fearfully, And shall prosper and thrive; He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people." Daniel 8:23, 24 "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and a half a time." Daniel 7:25 About Rev. 13:3 >>> The seven heads represent seven nations. Its ten horns represent ten kings (presidents/leaders). One of the leaders becomes the Antichrist. Facts: Biblical history surrounds Israel. God's chosen people have been defeated, enslaved by the Beast that has manifested itself as Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Medo-Persian, Greece and Rome in different times. In current times, what countries surround Israel? Islamic. "All nations will come against Jerusalem. "And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut to pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it." Zech. 12:3 I am torn between this New World Order that we are now being controlled by as the Beast, that will usher us into this One World Government, a socialist utopian model, headed by the elites (Rothschilds and the ultra-rich like Gates) and Islam as the Beast. If Islam is not the Beast, then it is very likely that they will be manipulated to attack Israel and then later be destroyed by the Antichrist. The other scenario in which the Beast is Islam, the Antichrist will come from Iran, Syria, Turkey or Iraq and will join other Islamic nations together to attack Israel. However, I can't imagine that a Mahdi could rule the world, any one of those countries don't have the power to do so. Antichrist would need to have control over the US, China, Russia, Britain, the European Union, etc. Satan is manipulating the entire world at this time. I am not sure who is the Antichrist, nor can anyone else name him. Soros, Gates or someone who is never mentioned in the Media, like the Rothschilds, who work behind the scenes comes to mind. It's a spiritual war unbeknownst to them and they are just pawns used by Satan. The Rothschilds and Soros are Jewish, however Soros is an atheist, Gates as well. ??? I believe this Covid-19 is diabolical. Satan works to control people by fear, lies and deception - all of which has surrounded this virus. I hear what this Great Reset has in store for us is Covid-21, a more deadly virus that would require ( when they get that vaccine) for everyone to take the vaccine. It is a dark cloud covering the world now. Someone interpreted the Rider on the White horse as the Antichrist, who has a crown (coronavirus), with a bow and goes out to conquer (as we have experienced). Then the Red Horse brings war - could be Red China. ??? What follows WWIII and world-wide collapsed economy? Famine (the Rider on the Black Horse), and Death (Pale Horse). Sad, but this will only last 3 1/2 years. I have studied this for 25 years and still don't have a grasp of it all, don't think anyone does! You'd think a pastor and excellent teacher like John MacArthur would have a grasp of it, but I see flaws in his view. I saw many flaws in Tim LaHaye's Left Behind Series.

Certainly the Sun has power to scorch the earth as you say. This is confirmed upon the release of the 4th Bowl of His Wrath: "Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire." Rev. 16:8 I could certainly add to the list with ( Is. 1:28; 33:14; 34:8-11. Zeph. 1:18; Zech. 12:9; Ezek. 20:47-48). One scripture in particular stands out, Zech. 14:12: "Now this will be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth." NASB Most translations us the word "rot". The KJV uses "consume". NKJ says, "dissolve". The point is, this happens when people are standing on their feet _ quickly _ before they drop to the ground. This is exactly the effects of a nuclear/neutron bomb blast. It hits and dissolves all your flesh before you drop. Back to the Solar flare. If Rev.16:8 is when this happens, that would be towards the end of the Great Tribulation. Many things happen prior to this. As we see now, pestilence and more coming. This can be the Rider on the White horse, who brings a crown (coronavirus) and goes out and conquers the world. This virus is trying to conquer the world. It is diabolical in the sense that it has lies and fear surrounding it. This is what Satan uses to control and conquer us. So then the other horsemen bring war, famine and death to 1/4 of the population. Still more to come, the trumpets blow. Trumpet #1 > Fire, hail and blood are released. 1/3 of the grass and trees on earth are burned. I would imagine that all cities in that area are toast too. Trumpet #2 > Something like a huge mountain on fire gets thrown into the sea and kills 1/3 of the life in the sea and destroys 1/3 of the sea vessels. * This can be a super-volcanic eruption? T3 > A star falls from heaven that is blazing like a torch. It poisons 1/3 of all the rivers and springs, causing death to those who drink it. Wormwood -- could be nuclear fallout, or and asteroid? T4 > Darkness covering 1/3 of the planet, blocking out sunlight and moonlight. T5 > Is a big woe! And He opened the bottomless pit, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke of a great furnace ..." This verse also supports a volcanic eruption but also with it an entrance into the deep caverns of the earth where demons dwell, releasing them as demonic locusts that torture mankind for 5 months - Woe! T6 > Four angels are released to kill another 1/3 of the remaining people. 200 million demons (I imagine them possessing 200M men) in war on earth. T7 > I think is the rapture and the release of the bowls of wrath as well. So let's tally this. Death to 1/4 of the population which is currently 7.8 billion = 1.95 billion. That leaves 5.85 billion. Then death to 1/3 of them = 1.95 billion, leaving 3.9 billion. Now the current body of Christ is said to have 2.5 billion believers, so roughly 1/3 of the world are Christian. Then of this 3.9 billion left, it stands to reason that 1/3 of them are Christian = 1.3 billion. This means almost half of us died in the Great Tribulation already. So the rapture takes the rest of us 3.9 billion -1.3 billion = 2.6 billion unbelievers left on earth for God's bowls of wrath. Take a breath, it's awful ... the end is near. From the bottom of my heart, I would prefer the Pre-Trib rapture to be correct, and I'm hoping I'm wrong, cause I would rather not go through this, but persecution, martyrs for Christ, heads being chopped off are going to continue. If we look at Islamic countries, Christians there suffer these things. Get ready! Put your armor on and hold onto your faith! The Good News is - what comes after it's all over!

Here is a comparison of Right and Left, Conservative and Liberal I found to be fairly on point. https://notesread.com/difference-left-right-liberal-conservative/ A more strict and severe definition of the Left will soon be experienced if Biden gets in and we lose the Senate. He will usher us into the Globalist/One World Government, a Utopian ideology that can't work because of sin in the world. They might have apparent good intentions like solving world hunger, creating world peace, live in a pollution free environment, but it is all a façade, looks good on paper, but those on top always become corrupt, power hungry and greedy, leading to a totalitarian monster ... ruled by the Antichrist. That's right, that is prophesied and that is where we are headed. Thankfully it will only last 3 1/2 years and Christ will return and destroy the whole system. This of course is a view of the extreme Left, which not many of the Democrats believe will happen. They've been duped, lied to. Most of them think we will just get back to the Clinton years or the Obama years. They don't think this NWO is evil, they think it is good. As Isaiah 5:20 says, we are living in an upside down world, when people believe good is evil and darkness is light. Woe to them says the Lord. This progressive view of the future is unrealistic. It can't work, it's been tried and has failed! But God sends them a strong delusion so that they believe the lies. I think they've watched to many sci-fi movies. They should really talk to some Russians who grew up under the Soviet Union regime or Cubans. They will warn them of the lies they were told, the poverty and freedoms they did not have. Talk to the Venezuelans, they wait in long lines for food. Russians worked all day long then got in a line, not knowing what the line was for, but knew they needed it, toilet paper or coffee, food, everyday things we take for granted. Our grocery stores have abundance now. When communism fell and they saw what the West had, they cried. They walked into grocery stores, department stores, saw how we lived and enjoyed life and just cried. They were lied to. Well, we are being lied to now and at least a 1/3 of the country is falling for. Of course as Bernie says, they do not have in mind socialism like the former USSR or even Venezuela. They are speaking of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, etc. I guess the elites, like Gates and Soros think of a new and improved socialism, a bright one, not dark. How bright is killing off 2/3 of the population, downsizing the world to a more workable population, say 500 million. Is being progressive require deadly viruses and vaccines that include also genetic manipulation, which will kill more people or sterilize them, rendering them unable to procreate? It's interesting how this virus kills five times as many Blacks and seven times as many Hispanics as if it was altered in some way to do so? I don't know, that is speculation. But what if they target certain races, like those who are impoverished in Africa and give them the vaccines that just kill or at least sterilize them? How bright a future do they have? Is that being progressive? Imagine finding out that most of the elderly in your town are dead and that most of the young cannot have kids? Don't worry, it won't progress too far before Christ intervenes.

Just heard Mark Stein say that three epidemiologists from Harvard and Stamford said that lockdowns don't work! They may delay the virus but not stop it. Nor will masks stop it. They do help - pro an to be 40% effective, which better than not wearing them. But people are careless, touch their mask, use it over and over again. What about our clothes, how often do we change and wash them. Remember initially Fauci said masks won't help that much and then changes his story. He is not reliable or trustworthy. Today I also heard that the Pfizer vaccine requires extremely low temperatures to keep it from becoming ineffective, losing its potency. -94 F degrees / -70 C degrees What? So, many facilities aren't equipped to handle that and neither are many foreign and poor countries. They have to keep it in dry ice, which lasts 10 hours and then need to transfer it into another freezer. Moderna (Bill Gates invested company) is ready with their vaccine which only meeds -20C degrees, with also a higher rate of reliability. I guess they will favor that one.

Well, fear is a way to control people who are weak in the faith. Our natural tendency is to respond to our fears by doing everything physically in our power to control or resolve the situation. The unknown is not controllable. Lies and deception keep us in the dark, so we cooperate and take necessary precautions. Quarantine, self distancing, hygiene have been used for thousands of years. Everyone stayed away from the Lepers. It is a wise response to an epidemic as long as we are getting the facts straight. We aren't. This is why I call it a spiritual war. It is Satan who has cast a dark cloud over the world. News of a cure should relieve many, but we already had hydroxychloriquine - for which they quickly shunned and denied. And btw, the sun gives us vitamin D and/or we can take it as a supplement along with zinc and Vitamin C as well. I personally trust in natural cures only and faith. But for those who think it will come to an end once they deliver the vaccine, think again. I don't want to add to your fears, but this whole virus was diabolically planned. I suspect they released it purposely and are perpetuating this. Can you imagine an 18 month plan for Covid? A Canadian politician (whistle blower) just revealed this plan. There will be a Covid-21 - more deadly released and so as we are just getting over this virus, here comes another we will have to deal with. Vaccines will be enforced as well as more lockdowns ( happening already) and finally the Globalist agenda - to collapse the world economies in order to implement the One World Government. Shocking and a bit fearful, but it is written, described in detail in our Bibles! We won't have much of a choice - talk about redistribution of wealth. These elitists will lose nothing and gain everything - except for their souls that is. All of us will have to relinquish our assets and pour them into a big bucket for the world to share - to even things out. A universal pay ( income equality) will be instantly imposed. If you refuse the vaccines, you will be considered an enemy of society, be put in an isolation camp will lose your freedoms or your lives. We are going to need our spiritual armor!

There is the obstacle in the way of healing and that is forgiveness. I struggled too and was confused about this concept of forgiveness. While the disciples asked Jesus, "How many times shall we forgive our brothers?" 7 x 70 was His answer. So in essence, who is going to count _ so keep forgiving. Notice the question pertained to "our brothers". What about non-believers? Shall we treat them differently? Turn the cheek a few times _ but for how long? My biggest problem went like this: God forgives those who ask for it and turn to Him. So why do I have to forgive someone especially if they are not a Christian, they keep repeating the offences and they don't intend on asking for it? I couldn't get beyond that for some time. And then I concluded that in the end, GOD will not forgive everyone, but will in fact destroy billions of people in His wrath and Judgment. Even way before Judgme t Day, He takes us all out at an appointed time - when your time comes, which is already determined, you die! There is one life, one death and then the Judgment. It took years for me to understand forgiveness. Finally, I realized it wasn't so much for the other person you are forgiving (because sometimes they don't give a hoot whether you do or not); IT IS FOR YOU. When you realize that people are fallen creatures, sinners who without the Grace of God could not be saved or do any good; and that God is sovereign, has a perfect plan for everyone, whether that involves salvation or judgment; then you can comfort in that no one gets away with anything. Justice is in His hands and not really in ours. We can't fix the world or anybody, only God can. When you realize this, you completely release the burden you carry and give it to Him. You can get rid of all the grievances, grudges, the negative emotions and thoughts that have been an obstacle and give them to the Lord. Then, you will be free to be healed in those areas. Besides God says if you don't forgive others, He won't forgive you. Also when you can forgive others ( who didn't even ask and are still evil, you sweep hot coals over their heads. In other words, you put it in their laps to deal with and they are usually confounded. This is how loving your enemies has an effect in them, who expect anger, hate, retaliation in return - not love and kindness. They usually feel guilt and shame, unless they are callous and too far gone. Just let them go. Finally, we could not fully understand good unless we experienced what it was like to be without it. How could we really understands all God's attributes: love, joy, peace, forgiveness, mercy, Grace, blessings, kindness, faith or hope if we didn't know their opposites. Such is life, filled with good and evil. Know the difference between them, be reconciled with God _ that's our purpose.

Hades/Sheol is more than 6 feet deep. It is the where all reprobates go. This includes a separate ream beneath the crust of the earth called the Bottomless Pit/Abyss, where demons dwell, are locked up and reserved for a time when they will be released to inflict torture and destruction on mankind during the GT. The 5th trumpet blows a 200 million demon locusts (who look like horse) are released. After 5 months of torture, they change form and become similar horse like demons with lion heads who breathe fire, smoke and sulfur. We can imagine this to be manifest as a possible super volcanic eruption. The smoke fills the sky, blocks the sun (sackcloth).

This man ... conquers, brings, war, famine and death? Following your logic, the four riders of different horses are just figuratively referring to the actions of the Antichrist. So figuratively, you are saying the Antichrist is riding all the horses. I don't think so for several reasons. These events accumulate and overlap towards the end. And for my other claims I have already stated. These horses and riders are from the spiritual realm- whether angels or fallen angels. Examine 2 Kings 6:17 They deliver the disasters quioft spread quickly and of course are manifest physically as pestilence, death, famine and wars. The Bible tells us what specifically the Antichrist does, that he is given power by Satan, conquers the world, but apparently he hasn't been possessed by Satan yet and we have waves if pestilence and more to come that are conquering the world already. It is being delivered prior to his reign. Later on in Rev. 9 we see four angels released to kill 1/3 of the population as well. Now for instance, if Gates or Soros was the Antichrist (and both are antichrists), with their investments in these bio labs and vaccines, we could say one of them set this pestilence loose, but the rider delivered it on an individual basis and spread it to the to hundreds of millions of people. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12 Of course this whole scenario debunks a Pre-Trib view, which claimed are gone before any of this happens. So they must deny that we are in it - for how much longer I wonder?

Since when is a human named Death with Hades following after "him" - the rider of the pale horse? I would suggest that rider is the Angel of Death. Since when did you see a firey horse. I would lean towards the concept that these horses are spiritual as well as the riders on them coming from heaven. In chapter 19 we see Christ accompanied by an army of angels riding horses.

So a heavenly rider (whom O think is an angel) is riding a spiritual white horse, wearing a man-made crown made of twine _ that was given to him because he won it _ before he conquers? The virus is delivered by an angel to prepare his rule. Could be Bill Gates or Soros. I used to think maybe a Rothschild nut their wealth doesn't seem to ne as great as it once was. I think they will go against Israel for sure - could be very soon since peace treaties are angering them. OR a super-volcanic eruption ("something like a mountain thrown into the sea"). 2029 - ? Stuff is accelerating now. Here's a glimpse of the Great Reset/Globalism in 2021 https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-10-19-world-leaders-planning-world-debt-reset-program.html#

Why would God appoints Biden, a corrupt Senator? The only reason would be to show us how corrupt this country is, so He allows us to have a bad president, to punish us partly but mainly because the US has been the obstacle to the New World Order. The Great Reset meeting in January will initiate many changes. This ushers in the rule of Antichrist and One World Government. So it is necessary, planned and prophesied to happen. Now Trump will fight this election in the Supreme Court. He may or may not win. If he does, then.maybe his real purpose (after he beefed up the military) is to go to war and press buttons when missiles start flying our way. But you are correct - Rom. 13:1, 2 says He appoints all leaders whether good or bad for a purpose.

We never know how God is working in the lives of the unbeliever. They rebel, resist for decades sometimes. We refuse invitations, outward callings to go to church, reject witnesses, toss Gospel tracts in the garbage and so they learn the hard way. I didn't become a Christian until I was 35, 30 years ago. Sometimes we are so steeped in habits and/or materialism that GOD has to to strip those things away first to get our attention. In my Dads case it was his health that was fading and the Grim Reaper was knocking on the door! That usually works - unless they are truly a reprobate. But God lets some of these reprobates go early on in their lives as Romans 1 tells us. These individuals are wicked though, with a quite different life and attitude as those who are His sheep. I think of some of the most brilliant men who were fools, like Stephen Hawking for instance. He was already judged in his life before he died. People like him and Richard Dawkins led many astray to believe lies