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  1. 3 hours ago, Tampered With said:

    Try Reading the Book of Revelation it is the last book in the BIBLE!!!

     

     

    I can read, you don't have to shout. By the way, unlike many, I have being reading the book of Revelation for the last 2 years consistently, and I understand great part of it. Why don't you read it and find out where in this book does it say that it was written for an intergalactic future of Never-land. 

    When you find proof, get back to me, otherwise, you have been lied to. 

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, Tampered With said:

    So does Jesus Christ ever come again to the Earth in a Second Coming to Rule and the Reign for a Millennium as recorded in Revelation Chapters 20, 21, & 22.?

    The Millennium is a farce that was fabricated by men who never understood the word of God. I don't read one single word from the lips of Jesus or the writers of the NT where He will return to earth to reign for 1,000 years. The opposite is true because Jesus clearly said that His kingdom is not of this realm (world) in Jn 18:36. So, how do you reconcile this contradiction and the scriptures below? 

    2 Chronicles 6:18 (NASB95)
    18 "“But will God indeed dwell with mankind on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You; how much less this house which I have built."

    1 Kings 8:27 (NASB95)
    27 “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!"

    John 18:36 (NASB95)
    36 "Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.”

     

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  3. 59 minutes ago, Tampered With said:

    There will not exist any religion in Jesus Millennium

    Because Jesus Reigns from the throne of David in Jerusalem and is the focus of all Teaching that comes out of Jerusalem to all nations of the world as all have become His footstool! God the Father has set Him there, Jesus Reigns, and the Holy Spirit ACTS upon all the earth! Religion is DEAD!

    This is until the 1000 year reign of Jesus Millennium comes to an end Satan is released from the pit to temp those born during the Millennium and Final Judgement comes, the Old earth is destroyed, and the New Earth and New Jerusalem comes for all eternity as recorded in Scripture. Read it for yourselves Revelation Chapters 20, 21, & 22.

     Ezekiel 37:22-24 Amplified Bible (AMP)

    22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one [a]king will be king over all of them; and they will no longer be two nations, and will no longer be divided into two kingdoms. 23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will save them from all their transgressions in which they have sinned, and I will cleanse them. So they will be My people, and I will be their God.

    24 [b]My servant David will be king over them, and they all will have one shepherd. They will also walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them.

    "Jesus is also the genuine messianic King who makes David's throne eternal. (See Acts 2:30, 32, 36; 3:14, 15; 1 John 5:20.) "The key of David" represents the authority of His royal office. (See Isaiah 22:22.) He already has that authority and was and is already manifesting His royal authority and power by using the key to open doors that no one can shut and shutting doors that no one can open. (See Matthew 28:18.)"

    Complete Biblical Library Commentary - The Complete Biblical Library – Revelation.

    Jesus rules as the King of kings and as the Lord of lords. My God is eternal and does not dwell in time-space. He is the eternal King of all creation, and He is God Almighty. 

     

     

     

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  4. 18 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Gentle-Warrior,

    You are a tad presumptuous & even cheeky. We need not assume people do not know something if we haven`t asked them.

    The Godhead is not a mish mash, but equal, of the same mind, and in unity. However they are three separate entities, known as - Father, Son & Holy Spirit. When they operate there is a hierarchy - the Father initiates, the Son administers, & the Holy Spirit energises.

     

    Now I have asked you -

    The LORD (Father) said to my Lord, (Jesus) "Sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool." (Ps. 110: 1)

    Has that happened? Meaning, where do you see the nations having been brought to the Lord Jesus` feet by the Father?

     

    Marilyn.  

    Yes, all that happened, but no in the way most people believe. Jesus reigns in heaven and as always, He is God almighty. He created all things (Col. 1:16) and redeemed all things at the cross. 

    When the word if God says that God reigns, the Son is not excluded, neither the Holy Spirit. There is only one throne in heaven, not two, and Jesus reigns in the the midst of those who oppose Him because He is Lord. 

    Remember that God in His triune self is eternal, so I suggest you don't think of Jesus as being under the subjection of time and space. He is still God omnipotent and all present.

    Don’t limit the attributes of God the Son. He never ceased to be God.

     

     

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  5. 2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Ps. 110:1 tells that the Father says -

    `The LORD (Father) said to my Lord, (Jesus) "Sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool." (Ps. 110: 1)

    Has that happened?

    Absolutely and a resounding YES. Jesus is LORD! When Jesus ascended to heaven, He sat down on the throne. Did you forget Jesus is God????

    Isaiah 66:1 (NASB95)

    "Thus says the Lord, “Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool. Where then is a house you could build for Me? And where is a place that I may rest?

     

    Matthew 28:18 (NASB95) "

    "And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth."

    Mat. 11:27, Phil. 2:9, Col. 2:10, 1Pe. 3:22, Jn 3:35, Mat. 26:64 and much, much more. 

    Meditate on some of these scriptures for a while and then respond. :D :th_frusty:

     

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  6. 59 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Gentle-Warrior,

    The Lord is at the right hand of the Father. Now although he has been given all authority He is not operating in that at the moment. It is the Father who is bringing all the nations together for judgment.

    `The LORD (Father) said to my Lord, (Jesus) "Sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool." (Ps. 110: 1)

    That is still in the process...

    Marilyn.

    To sit at the right hand of the Father means to sit on the throne. God does not have a right hand because He is a spirit. Jesus was God before He became man (Jn 1:14), He is God and God rules in heaven, unless you deny the Trinity where God, Father, Son and Spirit make up ONE GOD. 

    Did you read Eph 1:20-23 or are you rejecting the word of God? 

    Ephesians 1:20–23 (NASB95)

    "Which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

    21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.

    22 And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church,

    23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all."

    As for Ps. 110:1, it took place when Jesus ascended to the throne and sat down to rule because He destroyed the works of the devil, destroyed death with His resurrection and dealt with sin forever. So, how could all things be in subjection to Jesus and not reign at all? 

    To be honest with you what you said doesn't make any sense. 

     

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  7. 18 minutes ago, Tampered With said:

    Hearken to God's Word

    Romans 11 New International Version (NIV)

    The Remnant of Israel

    11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

    What then? What the people of Israel sought so earnestly they did not obtain. The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, as it is written:

    “God gave them a spirit of stupor,
        eyes that could not see
        and ears that could not hear,
    to this very day.”[c]

    And David says:

    “May their table become a snare and a trap,
        a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
    10 May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,
        and their backs be bent forever.”[d]

    Ingrafted Branches

    11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring!

    13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection brought reconciliation to the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

    17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

    22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

    All Israel Will Be Saved

    25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

    “The deliverer will come from Zion;
        he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
    27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
        when I take away their sins.”[g]

    28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

    Doxology

    33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and[i] knowledge of God!
        How unsearchable his judgments,
        and his paths beyond tracing out!
    34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
        Or who has been his counselor?”[j]
    35 “Who has ever given to God,
        that God should repay them?”[k]
    36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
        To him be the glory forever! Amen.

    The remnant in Romans 11 were those who believed in Christ, not those who hated Him. Learn to know the difference. In the same token, the remnant of the church are those who are true believers, not those who claim to be Christians but are not. 

    The Lord has His remnant today which are marked by the fact they have the Spirit of Christ within them. Without the Spirit of Christ, no one belongs to the Lord (Ro. 8:9).

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Tampered With said:

    2 Timothy 2:15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

    15 Study and do your best to present yourself to God approved, a workman [tested by trial] who has no reason to be ashamed, accurately handling and skillfully teaching the word of truth.

    2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV)

    15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

     

    Yes, I agree. You should study God's word and stop listening to man's words or teachings. If it is not in the word of God, you should reject it. 

    For me it is Jesus + Nothing. 

     

     

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  9. 11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

    Ever question why would God raise the dead from their graves if it is not to rule with Him ?

    1 Thes 4: 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:.

    God will not forget those who died in Him, no matter how long.

    Sorry about that.

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    The Lord reigns now from heaven over all creation. He is our Lord, isn't He? He has the keys of death and Hades, doesn't He? (Rev. 1:18). He is also Lord in the house of David and reigns as both Lord and God (Rev. 3:7, Acts 2:36). 

    Acts 2:36 (NASB95)

    36“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”

    I don't know what raising from the dead has to do with anything. Those who have died in Christ are in heaven or Paradise right now. 

  10. 11 hours ago, Tampered With said:

    I just want to make it clear I have zero in common with Gentle-Warrior as we pretty much disagree on everything except that the Book is called the Bible. :amen: 

    Good, I'm glad you said that. I also have zero in common with you because I don't accept or approve man made doctrines. The Millennium is nothing but the result of scriptural manipulation that the word of God denies vehemently. 

    So, either we are for the truth or against the truth. With Jesus there is no middle term. 

     

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  11. 9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

    Hi Gentile-Warrior,

    Did you miss my post to you? Here it is again.

     

    Hi Gentle -Warrior,

    You have brought up a good point. Now what Jesus was saying to Pilate was that His (Jesus`) kingdom/rule was not from this world. His rulership comes from the Father. No one on earth could give Jesus His rulership. However....we also know that in the tribulation it is proclaimed that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of the Lord, (Rev. 11: 15)

    Thus we do see that the Lord Jesus will have rulership over the kingdoms of this world BUT His seat of power, where His overall rulership is, is in heaven. The Father proclaimed this -

    `God...seated Him (Christ) at His right hand in the heavenly places far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named, not only in this age, BUT IN THE ONE TO COME. `(Eph. 1: 20 & 21)

    The Lord Jesus Christ will rule over all from the highest place, NOT from His footstool. (Isa. 66: 1)

    `Heaven is my THRONE and earth is my FOOTSTOOL.` (Isa. 66: 1)

    Marilyn.

     

    Marilyn, it is not that the Lord will have rulership, but that He HAS rulership. He who rules in heaven rules over all creation because all creation is subject to God's rule in heaven. He is both God and Savior. Don't we call Him by the title, Lord? He is not just Lord of the church, but Lord of all creation. 

    You quoted Eph. 120-21, but if you read the entire passage, Paul speaks in the past tense, "brought about in Christ", "raised Him from the dead", "seated Him at His right hand in heavenly places", and then he categorically states, "far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the age to come." Verse 22 continues on using past preterist by saying, "He (God) put all things in subjection under His feet  and so on...

    Mat. 28:18, Acts. 1:8, back it up by stating that Jesus is Lord of all creation. 

    God is always the present ruler, not the future ruler because He is YHWY (I AM that I AM) Exo. 3:14. 

    Agree? 

     

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  12. On 10/14/2019 at 12:18 PM, missmuffet said:

    All those who enter the 1000 year millennium will be believers in Jesus Christ. They will come into the millennium with earthly bodies. All of those who remained on earth who are not believers will be sent to Hades to wait the end of the 1000 year millennium for the Great White Throne judgement. 

    What Millennium, the one dispensationalists invented a few hundred years ago? Nothing in the scriptures warrants such belief. Jesus never mentioned an earthly kingdom, actually, He said the opposite, "My Kingdom IS NOT OF THIS WORLD." (Jn 18:36).

    None of the writers of the NT ever mentioned an earthly kingdom either, and worse, Rev. 20 which is highly symbolical, says nothing about Jesus reigning on earth. 

    So, how come most Christians believe in extra-biblical teachings? 

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  13. "I love" it" when people present their case based on presuppositions that are not truly based on God's word. Here is my question to prove what I'm  saying. Why do you suppose that there will be an end time (end of history) tribulation? Is it based on what God's word really teaches, or is it based on mere assumptions that cannot be proved biblically speaking? 

    Remember one thing, if you are going to use Mat. 24 to prove your belief, you must prove that Jesus was talking about the end of history, meaning an event that had nothing to do with His disciples or what was going to take place some time in the near future.

     So, was Jesus talking to His disciples or was He talking over their heads, ignoring who He was addressing His points to which in my understanding, would mean plain deception? 

     

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  14. 12 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

    All you are doing is calling God a liar. Satan has been trying now for almost 6000 years to prove God to lie. The truth is, God CAN'T lie. You have been avoiding the right scriptures. May I suggest you start with Ezekiel 37?

    Eze: 47: 13 This is what the Sovereign Lord says: “These are the boundaries of the land that you will divide among the twelve tribes of Israel as their inheritance, with two portions for Joseph. 14 You are to divide it equally among them. Because I swore with uplifted hand to give it to your ancestors, this land will become your inheritance.

    God has allready said which tribe will be where during the millennium.

    Why do you believe that I'm calling God a liar? By the way, if you take scriptures that strictly belong to the old covenant (OT), you are actually ignoring a biblical principle that states that the NT reveals, completes and fulfills the OT through the redemption in Jesus Christ. So, if you take Ez. 47:13-14 out of a hat and simply use it to prove your point, you fail in not recognizing the cross and the gospel that went forth to announce the good news of salvation.

    Now, since God judged old covenant Israel in the wars of the Jews against the Romans in AD 66-70, fulfilling the Lord's prediction about Jerusalem, (Mat 23:34-39, Lk 11:49-51), in what way am I saying something that is not true?

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  15. 45 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

    No one knows the 1/3 that God will bring through the fire and end up believing in Jesus. We can guess that both the 1/3 that comes through the fire, and the 2/3 that don't, are all alive on earth today, perhaps many of them living in Israel today.  I certainly don't want to be enemies to those whom will be with us in the 1000 year rein of Christ! Therefore it is wise to be friends with them all. Who knows? Some might come to know Jesus before the church age ends.

    Covenant Israel was judged in AD 70. That means that the only people that God has and will ever have are those who are in Christ. Jews who come to Christ become part of us and are also called Christians. It is my opinion that the presuppositions and imaginations of the church about the future have gone off the deep end. Most of it is plain fantasy.

    I believe in the Second Coming of Christ that will end this era forever in order usher eternity with a new heavens and a new earth where righteousness dwells.  

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  16. 14 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

    Yes....loss of families, friends and jobs too.  In Israel it's sometimes worse than that.....ongoing persistent harassment, pushing and shoving, gatherings of Orthodox Jews around their property shouting terrible things and throwing garbage onto their properties, loss of livelihoods, having to go to court on trumped up charges, etc, etc......and the police often turn a blind eye.

    Amen. What saddens me is how many Christians are in favor of secular and political Israel while never mentioning Christian Palestinians or Jewish believers that suffer persecution under their hands. The very name of "Israel" is like honey to many Christians that turn a blind eye to the abuses they commit. I support democracy, but I don't support abuse. 

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  17. On 9/23/2019 at 6:26 PM, Heleadethme said:

    I agree....nevertheless persecution by religious Jews has happened, does happen on a small but often serious scale, and i believe is going to happen again on a larger scale and we need to be prepared for it.

    Unconverted Jews persecuted Jewish Christians by calling them traitors. Many believing Jews have lost their families and friends for daring to believe in Jesus. Some of them truly suffer for the sake of the Master. 

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  18. 7 hours ago, luigi said:

    To claim that the Lord calling John up to heaven where John is to be shown things which must come hereafter, has nothing to do with the future, is the equivalent of saying white is not white, and black is not black.

    There really is nothing more to discuss here with your total denial of the obvious about what the Word represents.

    John had a vision and for the remainder of the book, he saw things from a heavenly perspective. He was in the spirit. What he saw in heaven had nothing to with the far future or the end of history, unless you want to quote scripture where it CLEARLY states that he was about to see future end time events reserved for the end of history. You are manipulating the word of God that states "I will show you what must take place after these things" (Rev. 4:1), as if John meant the end of history! I don't read that at all.

    Besides that, what you are saying is that book of Revelation was irrelevant to the first century church and has been irrelevant ever since. You are suggesting that this book has meant nothing to anyone since John under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit penned this book which he directed it to the seven churches of Asia Minor 2,000 years ago. 

    So, are you accusing God to give us a book that we can use strictly for future speculation ONLY since none of us will see or CAN PROVE what you imagine this book is talking about? 

     

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  19. 11 hours ago, Tampered With said:

     

    I totally DISAGREE! Once again this all smacks of "Replacement Theology" as you state "It's time to forget old Israel as if they are still the chosen people of God." Replacement theology or fulfillment theology, is a Christian doctrine which asserts that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ supersedes the Old Covenant and that is what you say. My G_d does not change His mind or His word like a man does; my G_d is the same yesterday, today, and forever. (Hebrews 13:8).  You refuse to accept Paul's testimony in Romans 11 as proof against what you say. Jesus is our salvation and yet it is the book of Revelation, you chose to use in your post, where it is recorded about Jesus's Second Coming to rule and reign on earth which you deny (Revelation 19:1-21) (Revelation 20). Do you (Gentle-Warrior) deny Yeshua's, (Jesus's) physical rule and reign on earth as recorded in the book of Revelation? 

    Where did I said that the church REPLACED Israel, please quote me on that sir? My take is that godly Jews left the sinful nation, left Judaism, and left their world mentality behind in order to become a new creation in Christ and be part of God's kingdom on earth as they received the Spirit as the downpayment of their salvation. 

    Nothing to do with Replacement Theology. You just don't get it because you have made modern Israel your idol and would not allow anyone to touch it. 

    YES, I DENY the physical rule and reign on earth of Jesus because Jesus is GOD and God does not reign on earth but from heaven

    BIBLICAL PROOF

     

    1 Kings 8:27 (NASB95)

    27 “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!"

     

    John 18:36–37 (NASB95)

    36 "Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.”

    37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”

     

    Ephesians 1:20–23 (NASB95)

    "Which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

    21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.

    22 And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church,

    23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all."

    CONCLUSSION:

    Jesus who is God Almighty, King of all creation and Ruler over the nations CANNOT AND WILL NOT reignn on earth ever. His kingdom is in heaven!!!! 

    I have proved through the scriptures the fallacy of a wretched kingdom on earth. 

     

     

     

     

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  20. 3 hours ago, luigi said:

    The book of Revelation was written circa 95 AD; and the Lord in Revelation 4:1 calls John to heaven where he is to be shown things that will come hereafter. Everything in Revelation chapters 4 through 22 regard the hereafter, after the first century AD.

    Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

    Revelation 4:1 (NASB95)

    1 "After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things.”

    If I took you to an empty warehouse and show you the plans for a new store, you would never think I was talking about a plan that will take place 2,200 years from now. This verse has nothing to do with the future, but an event that was going to take place soon. 

    Read Rev. 1:1, 3, 3:11, 22:7, 10 and 12 in a modern scholarly translation. The kjv is 412 years old and its language is not written in clear, modern English. 

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  21. 32 minutes ago, luigi said:

    I've put many scriptures together providing corroboration with events that are occurring today, which you claim as fiction. Instead you, like many others here prefer to stand on old dogmas that you have been taught long ago which have little if any scriptural support, and in most cases, like yours here, contradict the Word from numerous scriptures, indicating these dogmas false. 

    Prove that the book of Revelation was written for the future with chapter and verse please. 

  22. 1 minute ago, luigi said:

    The book of Revelation was written circa 95 AD; and the Lord in Revelation 4:1 calls John to heaven where he is to be shown things that will come hereafter. Everything in Revelation chapters 4 through 22 regard the hereafter, after the first century AD.

    Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

    People presuppose that the book of Revelation was written in 95 AD. There is no proof to that. There is more proof that it was written before AD. 70 than in 95. 

    I don't know why you posted Rev. 4:1. What does it prove? Your KJ says "hereafter" which in plain English means in a very short time. 

  23. 1 minute ago, luigi said:

    John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 

    The prince of this world currently is Satan.

    You are taking Jesus's words out of context. Jesus was talking about satan coming against Him by stirring up the Jews and the Romans to do what God had predetermined to take place before time began. 

    Acts 2:23 (NASB95)

    "This Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death."

    Jesus is Lord now. 

    JESUS PLUS NOTHING EQUALS EVERYTHING.jpg

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