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My understanding of the scriptures is yes women should veil themselves in christian gatherings.I find it also easier tell Muslims and Jews about Jesus as they have a similar custom,but with different meaning as to why they do it.I read that Muslims actually got head covering from Byzantine Christians,but I see in many cultures its quite normal like India and even in Africa some women do it.Its a obedience issue not a salvation issue. If I'm in a church that doesn't do it .I try to be more casual maybe use a beanie or chrochet hat but I think a shawl/veil is what Paul meant.I find it strange that it is not practiced so much.The orthodox churches do this and Armenian.Some churches I feel quite uncomfortable if they don't do it.thank you for all you wrote it was an interesting read.I came across this in the bible and like I came across baptism I think both are to be observed when possible and neccicary

I do think all things need to be considered about hair length ,age ,diseases ,etc.like in cancer patients or something grace needs to be shown to all and love.And the hearts need to be right or it can become a legalistic thing.head covering also goes with modest apparel and not to have broided hair it covers a lot of women's issues.the more I think about it. Reading the topic was very well put together thank you my brother

Dear sister don't worry about it the king of kings has invited you and me and your other brothers and sisters in christ to the marriage supper of the lamb.everyone's been invited no one will be left out .remember the parable how an extra effort was made to go into the high was and by ways to call everyone to come in. in our fathers house there is enough room for all his children so for now let us together go about inviting people to come so that the house is full.and no one gets left out ... May Jesus bless you and lift up his face upon you and give you peace

Thank you for posting this its so encouraging, Gods grace and love is so powerful to save,one person who has always been a tremendous example of this to me is the apostle Paul.I know some people who persecuted me so badly I sometimes doubted their ability to be saved sometimes I give up in prayer or sharing scriptures,  i know God's will is for all men to be saved .he can save anyone ,I heard about the" son of Sam"he was a serial killer. In prison he read the bible and was born again he has spent his prison life ministering to inmates.

I was too self righteous before I was saved a kind of tree hugging vegetarian do gooder ,but I saw I hated people in my heart .I wasn't matching up to my own standards I was quick to point my finger at others but couldn't see my own wickedness hidden behind smiles and kindness .I came to see my sin was responsible for Jesus death on the cross my hatred and that my good works were filthy rags compared to what Jesus did .one lovey verse is ..."and he went about doing good"....as Jesus said to the man who called him good master ..he said why do you call me good ? no one is good except for God !

And how Good God is to die for sinners.... what wonderous love .thank you so much for posting this its so encouraging im so thank full that Jesus saved me in my hour of need,their is no salvation apart from him no other name under heaven given unto to men whereby we must be saved but by the name of Jesus .

He is mighty to save nothing is impossible for God.

May you have a blessed new year my brother may Jesus fill you with his peace 

I'm so encouraged by this post

Thank you to everyone who has prayed for my situation received an email just telling me how many people had prayed .I'm so greatful thank you so much. My faith is strengthened. Thank you.and for mytrip to the isralie consulate I had opportunity to share the good news with them .if you want to join with me in prayer for them that would be wonderful.Gods word will not return void.

On 12/26/2019 at 9:33 PM, JustPassingThru said:

Dear sister, from down under like me, the answer to how we died with Jesus is answered for us in Hebrews: 

And if I may say so, Levi, also, who receives tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.  for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.  Heb 7:9-10

and...

For both He who sanctifies and they who are sanctified are all of One, for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brothers, saying, "I will declare Your name to My brothers; in the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You." And again, "I will put My trust in Him." And again, "Behold Me and the children whom God has given Me."  Heb 2:11-13

Since the Word tells us we are called the "children" of Jesus, and then the Holy Spirit writing through Peter tells us how we were conceived:

...having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the living Word of God, and abiding forever. 1 Pet 1:23

The incorruptible "seed" being the Holy Spirit, ...and the Word of God being the "ovum," so to speak, just like Levi being in the "loins" of his grandfather Abraham, many years before he was born, so were we in the "loins" of Jesus when he died on the Cross of Calvary, ...roughly 2,000 years before we were born...

Lord bless

 

Thank you very much  my brother , some Good points and verses you bring up. I understand that we were in Adam and in Adam we died but in Christ Jesus the perfect man we are made alive.we're apart of the promised seed that would overcome the devil( as God our Father said to Adam and eve in Genesis).when we come to faith in Jesus.Thank you for the verses and messages I appreciate them.

"To create in him one new man".scripture comes to mind maybe  the topic is wrong !!! Maybe its not about two groups of people and which one we are . as my brother  blood brought brought to mind were either in Christ or were none of his 

11 hours ago, missmuffet said:

As we read in Matthew 5:48, God’s children are called to be perfect. This does not mean that humans can obtain the same holy perfection as God, for He alone is set apart in holiness (Isaiah 6:3; Psalm 99:9; Exodus 15:11). The call to be perfect is what the apostle Paul meant when he said, “Be imitators of God, as beloved children” (Ephesians 5:1, ESV). As children tend to imitate their parents, God’s children ought to imitate their Lord and reflect His perfection in the way they live.

The idea of spiritual maturity relates closely to the word perfection in the Bible. Humans are not perfect, but followers of Christ are encouraged to seek perfection: “And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing” (James 1:4, ESV). Paul said that he had not yet obtained perfection but had made it his goal: “I don’t mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection. But I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me” (Philippians 3:12, NLT). Paul knew that perfection for believers would only be realized in the life to come (verses 13–21).

https://www.gotquestions.org/perfection-in-the-Bible.html

Hebrews says for by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. From reading the scriptures the idea seems to be both a present and future reality. Like saying "you died with Christ" I wasn't born yet so how could I have died with him ?  subjects of faith are about receiving those things that might not presently be seen and about  our belief of having received them .we would not be commanded something we could not do.Our perfection is found in Christ and our faith in him. its not in us  we died and Christ lives in us ,we are one with him .his blood has cleansed us from all unrighteousness.even if we do sin here Jesus is our advocate because of what he has done for us we are made perfect.It has nothing to do with us .I don't think isolating verses or pulling them out of the scriptures is good. its better for us to read the whole books all of them then we will have a right understanding of what Scripture say who was speaking to who etc .this is often what people do who try to show contradiction in the bible .it would be like cutting up different newspaper articles and putting them together and hoping to get the whole story.Thank you for you post .I know the article is from a website and not your wrighting .I don't agree with this website.

4 hours ago, other one said:

it happens to us all; don't worry about it we understand.   I don't know how long you have to be here to delete posts, but it's one of the things at the bottom left where you edit things.   It's in the options selection for me.

 

Thank you .

My apologies where do I delete all these same responses my internet was on and off so I sent it by accident 3 times sorry.good night and hope you all had a blessed Christmas .

6 hours ago, other one said:

The 4th commandment tells us that we are to do no work at all on the Sabbath....   not even kindle a fire if you are cold...   it's my understanding that a person was stoned just for picking up sticks one day.

Now when Jesus was accused of working on the Sabbath, he did not correct the Jews who were accusing him of doin so, he openly admitted it.....    said he was working and also so was the Father...

One can rationalize that any way one wants to, but the word is quite literal about it.....      and btw I am not saying that Jesus sinned and we are all going to hell, I'm saying that at his presence he annulled all the old law.    Yes he did keep the sabbath holy, but he did so just like he demands that we do...…   by living a holy life every minute of every day and not one day a week.   Unlike those that were here before Jesus we now have the Holy Spirit within us and are with God all day every day.....   we no longer need a Sabbath to focus on him.....   and we should not need to worship him in a special way on a specific day we should be doing so all the time.

Jesus took away all the old law and basically gave us two new ones to take their place...…    and those two laws are much more comprehensive than the old laws....   for if you look into the new laws in depth, he made it sinful to even want to break any of the old laws...…    don't murder.....    nope not even hate the person much less kill him....     with the new law, "Am I my brothers keeper?"     Yep, you sure are.

It is much more difficult and probably impossible to be a real Christian without having the Holy Spirit guiding you....   that's what's meant by living in the Spirit.

You can go through your whole life and not ever break one of the ten commandments and still go to hell for those commandments were intended to teach people how to live at peace with each other...…    Jesus's commandments/laws are to teach us how to live at peace with God....  and I have learned that it is much easier with the Spirit to be a Christian than it was before I turned everything over to him and tried to keep his old laws.

Teaching people to try and keep the old laws is no more proper than Peter telling people that they must be circumcised....

You must be born again....   born spiritually to be able to interface with the Holy Spirit....   then all you have to do is listen and follow his direction and the longer you work on Jesus being your Lord, the closer that relationship grows...

Love God with all your heart, and Love each other....    Love everyone....    He died for us all, even in our worst states spiritually and we should do the same....

I should stop now or this would grow into a book.....

Merry Christmas to each and every one....

Thank you for the message .

 So you got me thinking..remember when Jesus disciples asked Jesus what they must do to work the works of God Jesus told them the work of God is to believe in him .

Jesus' presence did not abolish the law.Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it .

If Jesus did break the Sabbath day or not keep it holy he would not have been our spottless sacrificial lamb.

Remember just because Jesus is silent doesn't mean his accusers are right .he was largely silent and undefensive throughout his trial.

Because Jesus is god and the law maker he fulfilled the the law on  behalf of mankind .as the testator of the old covenant he died and brought in a new covenant and everlasting covenant in his blood that we can be saved by faith in him and recieve eternal life .

The law of God was a school master to accuse us almost so that the whole world would be guilt before God and call out to Jesus for salvation 

The new commandment Jesus gave his dicipkes was to love one another as he had loved us .love is the fulfillment of the law.

 My main point was that Jesus even being the Lord of the sabbath did not break the Sabbath but indeed kept it holy.

By having faith in Jesus Christ we enter into rest from dead works .and walk in a new and living way which he showed us and it is Love ...love God and live our neighbour. Love is the greatest gift the spirit of God can give us.I think also spoke too much ha ha I realy enjoyed that you made me think twice.I do think we might of misunderstood each other a bit but I appreciate what you have shared and agree with us walking by faith in love  and not trusting in observing the works of the law.thank you so much for you message .I have learnt much from you.?

15 hours ago, other one said:

 

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4 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

The only way to find out is to repent.

Their is another post you can see on this topic my friend .called repentance

6 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Jesus said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt 4:17). I think he is telling us that if we repent, the kingdom of heaven is ours - at this very moment.

In context he said it is at hand you can't take things out of context and think what you think it means my friend.

3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Jesus said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt 4:17). I think he is telling us that if we repent, the kingdom of heaven is ours - at this very moment

In context he said it was at hand.you can't take things out of context and think what you think it means.

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

It's one thing to be saved. It's something else to go to heaven.

Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within you the kingdom is where ever the king is Jesus is God.when people are saved and brought into the kingdom by faith in Jesus .Christ lives in us our bodies are the temple of the living God .

6 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Of the three choices you provide, I would attempt to be a sheep. Aren't goats and wolves the same group?

I don't think the goats would last very long with the wolves?

6 hours ago, other one said:

who was he speaking to and when...  and am I expected to sell everything I have and give to the poor?     An I expected to hold to the 4th commandment about not doing any work on the Sabbath when Jesus didn't do that himself???

Read the last half of Matthew chapter 25 and look at the reasons he said he was sending people to hell over and tell me which of the ten commandments that those people broke

Thanks for your posts,I don't want to get involved to much (im just passing through resading)its just something i wanted to share in this thread ,just one thing Jesus didn't work on the Sabbath he kept it holy,but he was falsely accused for working by the pharisees he did not obey the  traditions and rules  of the elders and Pharisees but he never broke the Sabbath by doing what was considered work on the Sabbath in Gods law. Today the Orthodox Jews have many traditions they consider work like turning on or off a light switch they consider work .it has to do with not lighting a fire on the sabbath many Orthodox Jews remove the lightbulbs from The refrigerator on the sabbath or find a goy shabbat to turn on lights turn off stoves ,light cigarettes etc. so they don't have to break the Sabbath .in Israel their is I think 'eruv' Like a wire boundary that marks public and private domain of the household and with in it certain things can be done on the Sabbath .also on the sabbath they are not to carry more than the weight of an egg or something to this effect if passing in to Jerusalem carrying something they might find a gentile to carry it into the city for them .all of the pharisees rules were adding to Gods word and were not Gods word.Jesus never broke the Sabbath he was accused of brewing it because he didn't obey the rules of the Pharisees. I only know this because I am married to an Orthodox Jew  hasidic every aspect of their lives is controlled by rules believe it or not their was talk about if picking your nose on the sabbath was work it was classified as 'sorting '?by some rabbis Hope you have a blessed Christmas my brother.

6 hours ago, other one said:

that is an interesting question....

I Will greatly praise the Lord with my mouth ;yea I will praise him among the multitude. for he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,to save him from those that condemn his soul. -psalm 109

O give thanks unto the lord;call upon his name:make known his deeds among the people. Sing unto him sing psalms unto him:talk ye of all his wondrous works.Glory ye in his holy name:let the heart of them rejoyce that seek the Lord.Seek the Lord and his strength :seek his face forevermore.-psalm 105:-1-4

Bless the lord oh my soul:and all that is within me ,bless his holy name.bless the Lord, oh my soul, and forget not all his benefits :Who forgiveth all mine iniquities; and healeth my diseases;Who redeemeth my life from destruction;who crowneth me with loving kindness and tender mercies;who satisfieth my mouth with good things;so that my youth is renewed like the eagles psalm103:1-5

Make a joyfully noise unto the Lord, all ye lands.Serve the Lord with gladness:come before his presence with singing.know ye that the lord he is God:it is he that hath made us ,and not ourselves;we are his people ,and the sheep of his pasture .Enter into his gates with thanksgiving ,and into his courts with praise :be thankful unto him,and bless his name.For the Lord is good ;his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations. Psalm 100

sing unto the Lord, bless his name ;shew forth his salvation from day to day.Declare his glory among the heathen,his wonders among all people.For the Lord is great and greatly to be praised:he is to be feared above all gods.For all the gods of the nations are idols :but the lord made the heavens.Honour and majesty are before him:strength and beauty are in his sanctuary..... O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness :fear before him ,all the earth.. Psalm96:2-6...9

I WILL MAKE THY NAME TO BE REMEMBERED IN ALL GENERATIONS:THEREFORE SHALL THE people PRAISE THEE FOR EVER AND EVER. PSALM 45:17.................................may  we all always make Jesus name be remembered ... his name be praised ...!!!

just looking back over all  our King  and saviour Jesus has saved me from brought me through my heart was filled with  overwhelming praise ...I just wanted to praise his holy name in the congregation let us praise him he is worthy of our praise .hallelujah  may Jesus bless and keep you all this Christmas time.join me in praising him today

"Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners"

let us glory in him .thank you father for my brothers and sisters   .and for your son who has loved us so much thank you for your great love may we always grow in our understanding of this great love .amen.

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        PRAISE YE THE LORD ALL HIS PEOPLE

       SING PRAISES TO HIS HOLY NAME???

I cannot understand why the united states must support the secular Antichrist state that calls itself "Israel" and is blasphemous but is not Israel.Jesus Christ is the true Israel. Rabbinical Judaism is a man made religion no one can prove they are from Judah or Abraham Jesus Christ is the only Jew who is from Judah and the promised seed of Abraham  the true Israel we have his genealogy written .The abuses of human rights committed by this political state are horrendous. American government has often been a symbol of liberty yet are supporting a political system that is totally detrimental to the liberty not only of 'Israelis' but Christians and Palestinian Bedouins. As in South Africa it cannot last.The only way forward is to give equal rights to all, pull down the walls and love each other as Jesus commanded. The Messiah has already come !!! Everyone is made in the image of God. God is no respecter of person .u

Under the new covenant all people (whosoever) can be saved by faith in Jesus Christ. The secular Antichrist state is a danger to its people and one of the main obstacles to rabbinic hasidic reform secular atheist Jews being saved by the Messiah Jesus .the Antichrist state is like Isis the only reason they are supported  by the USA is because of biblical ignorance and like most cults they use the bible .Most western countries wouldn't support this state if it was not for Christianity.The crusaders tried to o a similar thing it didn't last.The only true Jewish "state" is were Jesus is king that is a heavenly kingdom were their is no war or crying or  sickness or hatred or death or anything that defiles.I hope in my lifetime to see the end of this political system.I suppose we must pray for and against Trump and Netanyahu.That Gods spirit will convict and save the people living there. I know God puts  up leaders and tears them down and he has a plan and purpose in all that is happening.I just hope this doesn't  happen. That the USA doesn't support this its horrible.in the case of trump and netamyahu its the blind leading the blind .Jesus only is the saviour of mankind no government or country can save.

This is a situation I have been in for quite so me years.I live in a building on the same property as the family house.I was in a very bad situation living here i was starved when i was pregnant with twins after my husband left me i was locked out of the main house and didn't have food i broke a window to get food from the freezer i was so hungry nauseas I had terrible pain under my ribs I prayed to God saying you said we would not be hungry if we trusted in you ,I felt a bit like peter "kill and eat" .I Brook the window and ate .because it was twins I had developed high blood pressure I had passed out once when my husband was in Israel all I could tell him is something happened to me, I couldn't wake up.I eventually felt the babies stop moving. one day my water Broke and I miscarried the two babies my heart was broken it still is (but I know they cannot be harmed ever again they are with Jesus ), after this I was also taken to court by my mother  I didn't defend myself(she goes to church in my understanding in the moment I thought she was a Christian and Christians don't take each other to court so I didn't go for this reason) I couldn't get to court anyway the police came to take me away one morning in my pijamas, to a mental heath ward of a government hospital I was put in solitary confinement for 2weeks I collapsed in the corridor when coming of from the bath I got a dislocated jaw .I still don't remember why I collapsed if I was punched or something but my blood pressure was all over the place they put me on a drip and called my family to come my jaw got fixed  .I was then taken out in the middle of the night to another hospital put in solitary confinement and had electroshocks done to me my grandmother died in this time ,I was left in there for some weeks till my medical aid ran out then I was taken to a place where 153 people died it was on the south African news the case went to the united nations .my mother stole me out she saw it was very bad She said she couldn't sleep at night.I'm still living on the same property she often threatens me to drug me etc .but now she has no legal authority over me anymore due to other things that happened to me .I was looking after the animals and house my brother came from overseas .I got beaten up by him he was a pastor and studied in a seminary he got into trouble with a woman in a church in Australia and left there and came back to s.a. to go to korea.then he beat me up one day after I was feeding the animals .I sorrowfully did fight back more to disable him than anything I got thrown in the wall a chair got broken he hit me pretty hard in the head i got head aches and a big blue ear .he had previously thrown me into a tree out side when I was carrying cages of birds out of the aviary because a big storm was coming  a neighbour intervined.I'm pretty isolated I developed anemia after severe bleeding after the miscarriage I learnt through the internet I retained placenta .most of the time I have to pretend to get along but I try to avoid all contact as much as possible God has blessed me with more time alone here and my fears of threats has ceased I'm bolder to share the good news with people my time alone has helped me study the bible .I found tapes then I brought a C.D.Of the bible being g read by Alexander scourby .my mother got a internet connection here I am with my true family on worthy .God is very good I don't think its a sin not to be with your family of the flesh if they are abusive or violent or blasphemous but its always good to be with your spiritual family .were all children of God by faith in Jesus Christ .

I share my story .maybe it can help some one I suppose I also needed to share with others and the topic was what I have been thinking about .God said he would give us a testimony through the things we suffer .my testimony is that God is true .he is our defender he will never leave us or forsake us and the present suffering even if they are only for a little while don't compare to what God has planed for all who live him and are called according to his purpose .I WOnder if  my mother will be saved oneday .my one brother died recently without Christ .he said he didn't want to see me all I could do is message him the good news that Christ had died for his sins.for the person who asked the question may God help you give you wisdom in what ever situation your in .I think one day I will just Go I have a back pack packed I couldn't leave because I had bleeding issues which God has now healed.if you need to get away from your family because of persecution this is good if you don't get along because they are not Christian its understandable Jesus said he came to set mother against daughter etc and that we need to love him more than our mother father sister brothers etc . this is also not a sin know this is a very personal story .sorry if anyone is offended I hope it can encourage any christian who is having troubles .may the comforter comfort you .

Jesus Christ died for you he loves you so much .God created us all in his image .its easier to focus on what God thinks of you than what other people do.Jesus was dispised and rejected by his own people too and was ultimately handed over to be crucified he forgave his enemies and tought us how to love each other .we must pray for those who hate us love our enemies. I'll be praying that They might be saved I'll encourage you to pray that God will help you in you situation to be a light to your family overcome evil with good .may Jesus bless you may you know your greatly loved and that Jesus understands .you can read about how he struggled in the bible with people who didn't like or agree with him  or even hated him how he was betrayed by a friend etc.how all his diciples left him one denied him etc.hopefully this can help you. Charm is decietfull and beauty is fading but a woman who fears the lord will be praised.my Dear sister its better if women of God dress modestly with shame facedness not with gold Jewls and costly array but with sobriety we !UST adorn ourselvescwith good works ...did you know the white dress of the bride of Christ is good works of the church ? I don't think you should be to worried about what others think of you trust in Jesus who died for our sins put your faith in him let his spirit lead you into all truth .often when I have a problem with some one I Remember what Jesus said .take the log out of your own eye  so that we can see clearly before we try to take the speck out of someone else's eye.God can help us with our own problems if were willing and ask him to help us but we often can't sort out other peoples problems .may you rise above all this .may Jesus fill your heart with love for anyone who is hurting you .you don't have to put yourself in a situation where your being hurt if you can avoid it but it sound like your just fine with who you are and how God created you.May Jesus give you peace and strength may you know Gods love for you.

Here in is love not that we loved God but that he loved us and gave his son to be a propitiation for our sins.

I'll share something with you when I  was younger living in a village with Tswana tribes I started to want to be more african almost it was very strange.i never felt like this before.I realised we all bring glory to God as his creation were all totally different.I suppose I wanted to fit in almost  and i loved many of the people I was living with like family and saw how beautiful the Tswana people are I wanted to be just like everyone I was living with.  so I can relate to you a bit .in life there are some things we can change and some things we can't our attitude's about things and understanding of who we are as children of God these things are what matters most.in Jesus Christ were all one .we all need each other and are valuable to the body of Christ .let's pray together about all this ? Gods word is like a mirror for our souls the more we look into it the more like Christ we become .don't compare yourself with anyone Jesus died for us to make us  just like him .the problem was never our appearance but our souls were sick .Jesus came to forgive our sins.to save sinnersfrom the consequences of our sins which is death and to give us eternal life and set us free from bondage to sin .

17 hours ago, BibleGuy said:

Hi there!

Lots of great points in there!

I'd thought I'd chat about something, though:  The LAND-PROMISE.

 

So let's see here....you wrote this: "Land is not a part of the new covenant ."

However, in the New Covenant, we all obey TORAH (Jer.31:33)....

AND!

We all obey Torah when we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8).

This confirms that the LAND-PROMISE is linked to the NEW COVENANT.

 

Again, Paul affirms that all believers SHARE IN THE INHERITANCE (Gal.3:29).....that's the same LAND INHERITANCE promised to Abraham.

 

Jesus agrees that His disciples will inherit the promised land (Mt.5:5).

 

So, I just wanted to encourage you to realize that we DO share in the land promised to us, as Israelites in Christ.

 

".spiritual people inherit a spiritual or heavenly land the unseen."

TORAH is spiritual (Rom.7:14).  TORAH promises a PHYSICAL LAND INHERITANCE (Dt.30:1-8).  So the "spiritual or physical" is a false dichotomy.....we share in BOTH!

 

We have PHYSICAL bodies too....and Abraham WILL inherit the PHYSICAL land promised to him......otherwise God was a liar.

ALL of us Israelites will inherit the PHYSICAL land promised to us....otherwise God was a liar.

 

After all, Dt. 30:1-8 is yet FUTURE.  It has NOT yet happened.  And it WILL happen...otherwise Moses is a false prophet.  Thus, we WILL again return to inherit the land and again obey 100% of all Torah (Dt. 30:1-8).

And, since this same Torah passes into the NEW Covenant (Jer.31:33).....that's the link between New Covenant and the LAND!  We will obey 100% of ALL Torah (Jer.31:33) WHEN we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8).

 

" Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world. "

That's because Jesus has not yet returned to this PHYSICAL WORLD to set up His kingdom....but He will!  And He will rule the nations of this PHYSICAL WORLD (Ps.2:8-9).

Jesus will return to rule Israel IN THE PHYSICAL LAND (Jer.23:5).

Jesus will return to restore the animal sacrifices IN THE PHYSICAL TEMPLE (Mal.3:4;Zec.6;Eze.40-47).

 

"their is no distinction between Jews and gentiles anymore"

Rather, Paul is STILL A JEW (not a Gentile).  Ac.21:39.  Ac. 22:3.

 

"we're Israel if we believe in him "

Yes!  That's right!

And Israelites obey TORAH (Mal.4:4).

Israelites inherit the PROMISED PHYSICAL LAND (Dt.30:1-8;Eze.36:24;Eze.37:12-14,21-22,25).

Jesus will come to fulfill the Davidic Covenant, which includes restoration of LEVITICAL SACRIFICIAL ACTIVITY (Jer.33:18-22)....that's PHYSICAL activity in the PHYSICAL TEMPLE in the PHYSICAL LAND.

THIS is our great inheritance in the PHYSICAL land promised to us and our descendants!

 

"I read that Judaism was made obsolete at the destruction of the temple."

BIBLICAL Christianity IS a Judaism (Ac.24:5,14;28:22)....and it's not obsolete.

 

"because its impossible to still observe the old testament religion after the temple was destroyed "

Don't worry!  WE will again obey 100% of all Torah, WHEN we return to inherit the PHYSICAL land promised to us as Israelites (Dt.30:1-8).

But, we are still in diaspora (as in Jas.1:1)....so, we do what we can....

 

"The flesh cannot glory in decendence"

Exactly!

 

blessings....

 

Hi my friend I thought your message deserves more time than what I had yesterday.

So I divided to look up some verses etc its helps me to study and grow so I hope its helpful to you too

Mathew 5:5 says" the meek shall Inherit the earth " 

Jeremiah 31:33says this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time declares the lord  I will put my law in their minds and wright it on their hearts I will be their God and they will be my people

Jesus Christ is the true Israel all who believe in him are the Israel of God and the new covenant is that God put his law in our minds and writes it on our hearts when we have faith in the Messiah Jesus and the holy spirit comes and lives in us .

I was reading Hebrews this morning I came across this verse 

Hebrews 12:22 but you have come to mount Zion  to the heavenly Jerusalem the city of the living God

Hebrews 11:13 all these people  were still living by faith when they died  they did not receive the things promised ;they only saw them and welcomed them from afar off they admitted that they were  aliens and strangers on earth .people who say such things  show that they are looking for a country of their own .if they had been thinking of a country  they had left they would of had opportunity to  return.instead they were longing for a better country ---an heavenly one .therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God for he has prepared a city for them . 

I hope these verses are interesting to you thanks all I can share for now I will have to take time to wright down the other verses and read them I dont often take verses separately but whole books or chapters .

The Israelites did not stay in the land because if disobedience they broke the covenant so Jesus came to fulfill it the law on behalf of the people of God ,die as the testator of the covenant and bring in the  new and everlasting covenant where all people of the world can  can be saved.

I'll wright down the verses later I was reading some things this morning and took notes but I have them in my flat at the moment ..I hope you have a lovely day .

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Yes biblical Christianity is biblical Judaism. Amen.

We are the temple of the living god we are living stones Jesus is the chief corner stone.

We offer the sacrifices of praise

we are living sacrifices.

Theses were just some verses that came to mind .they're are in the new testament sorry I don't learn the verses often . I mainly listen to the bible. OK my friend thank you .I have enjoyed looking up some things that your message made me think about .may Jesus bless you  

This also came to mind ...... As I was thinking about what you wrote " the kingdom of heaven is within  you "Christ is ruling already he is ruling his people from thief new hearts and new spirits we revived when we believed in him as our saviour and king. 

 Thank you for your response and time I appreciate you message.its interesting to hear your opinion .Love is the fulfillment of the law.Dear sir if you read the wrightings of Paul in the new testament you will see what I wrote is in agreement with what he wrote .the old covenant is done away with ."behold the new is come" Jesus came to make all things new.Dear sir you never mentioned much about Jesus or what he has done for us so I presume your following some form of zionism.Jesus is the LAmb if God who takes away the sins of the world .The Messiah died for our sins according to the scriptures was buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures 1Corinthians 15:3-4 we seek a heavenly country Christians are pilgrims and foreigners in the world but citizens of heaven. If you read the new testament you will come across all the things I have written and find them to be true.I hope not to offend you in any way and really appreciate your time and reply thank you so much for sharing.I would love to go through verse by verse with you I might do it  later but it's all in the new testament I can only direct you for now .if you celebrate the sabbath  Shalom may Jesus give you peace.??

Interesting read .Jesus is the true Israel the promised seed. All who believe in him are members of his body and the people of God.Jesus is the head of the body . Jesus is the perfect man, the new man in whom their is neither Jew nor gentile but all are one by faith in him as  Jesus prayed for in the gospel of John that we might be one as he and the father are one.Jesus is the Messiah of Israel the king of the Jews .The Good Shepherd who laid his life down for the sheep.the Prince of life.The modern state that calls itself Israel  but is not Israel is Antichrist.

Thank you I enjoyed reading this as I agree with what you have said.The secular state is trying to usurp the church not the other ways round.The secular state is beihaving more like Jacob than Israel.Pretending  to be the first born ,we know Christ is the firstborn of the new creation. Jesus is the  king of a spiritual nation and kingdom that has no confidence in the flesh.Land is not a part of the new covenant .people are made of dust Christ inherited us and made us truely alive again by putting his spirit in us were an eternal inheritance the children of God by faith in the Messiah  we cannot see corruption anymore.spiritual people inherit a spiritual or heavenly land the unseen.fleshly people seek that which is fleshly and seen. Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world. the" holy land "is not holy its were our lord was crucified and is considered in revelation to be spiritually Sodom and Egypt. We all know who lived in Sodom and Egypt.Everyone who is saved is saved by faith in the king of the Jews Jesus their is no distinction between Jews and gentiles anymore the dividing wall has been broken down when Christ died this is what he came to do to be a light to the nations and the glory of his people Israel (we're Israel if we believe in him we're his people he is our glory)

There is only one way to salvation Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me".

But Christians must not boast or be high minded against the olive branches that are cut off but be in fear .if they come to faith they can e grafted back into Israel God is good and severe we only stand by faith in him who loved us not of any goodness of our own.Paul wished he could be cut off for the sake of his brethren .the only this g is that the religion of the Jews is a new religion rabbinic its not biblical in any way neither cana any prove their decendency from Judah whereas Paul could say I'm from Benjamin .the only Jew we know today that is worthy to note is Jesus.the son of God the lion of the tribe of Judah.I read that Judaism was made obsolete at the destruction of the temple. that the religion the people in the secular state follow is a new religion .called rabbinic Judaism . because its impossible to still observe the old testament religion after the temple was destroyed .I see this rabbinic Judaism just like any cult really like mormonisin or Islam even  .after 2000 years no one of them can say Jesus is my cousin or something like that .The flesh cannot glory in decendence the only way we can be "Jews" is by faith in our king and spiritually.no one can boast.