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On 2/6/2020 at 5:00 PM, Jayne said:

I'm not a fan of President Trump at all - even though I voted for him and will again.  But I know this - he was not guilty of those charges and the left has been trying to impeach him since he was elected and it won't surprise me if they try to do it again.

BOTH of Senator Romney's votes should have been acquittal votes as President Trump was not guilty of those particular charges.

Respect him or not.  Like him or not.  President Trump did not commit the crimes he was charged of.

I'm sorry, but your statements here are totally not grounded in facts at all.  The house managers proved overwhelmingly that he was guilty of the thing they accused him.  I mean the proof is right there out in the open.  He even admitted it and asked if China could even interfere in a US election.  In addition, those articles were related to actual crimes.  The Impoundment Control Act and Campaign Finance laws.  Even Republican senators stated that he was guilty, but they didn't think it rose to the level of impeachment.  

4 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

As someone who was stuck with flake, that isnt a ringing endorsement. Mormon politics are full of nepotism and corruption.

I don't agree with Mormon theology either, but I mean just as far as their character and principles, everyone is an individual.                                 

25 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

President Trump is clever. He keeps his friends close and his enemies closer...

And I will say this again, please refer to our Commander in Chief as PRESIDENT TRUMP.

...and I will say again that he hasn't earned the respect or the title to be called that.  I refer to him as Trump.  I served in the military, and he hasn't earned respect of that title.  Just because one can run for President and win (*ahem, wikileaks, russia, ahem*) doesn't mean they are worthy of that title.  He has clearly shown he is not worthy of that title.  The guy is a fraud on some many levels and not a person Christians should look up to or honor even if he does give them what they want in conservative stances.  He's cheated on all his wives, lies like nobody's business, curses like a sailor, accused by 20+ women of groping them, probably has shady stuff in his taxes, places kids in cages, makes fun of women.  

4 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I do not keep up with the news. What did Mitt Romney do?

He was the only republican to vote to convict Trump yesterday for one impeachment article.  

I personally applaud Mitt Romney for standing up and having moral courage to do what his faith demanded.  What does that say about all of the other republicans in the Senate who claim to have faith and yet didn't have the courage to do what they knew was right?  He's already getting flak for his decision from the moral and cowardly degenerates of his own party.  I think it's sad the state of the republican party.  Before Trump was elected, they all rebuked Trump and wouldn't dare support him except for Jeff Sessions, and we see how that turned out.  Romney reminds me of Jeff Flake who was also Mormon.

23 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

the plain simple answer is NOOOOO, no one of other faiths will be in the Christian Heaven and not all who claim to be Christian will be either .. only those who are TRUE CHRISTIANS will be in Heaven .. no others, no matter what ..

I believe this way also.  So, what do you think happens to otherwise kind and decent people who were of other faiths and did not give their lives to Christ?  I believe all sin will be destroyed in hell including sinners who did not accept Christ.  However, I believe that the punishment will fit the crime, and as jesus said "those who committed offenses and did not know will be beaten with few stripes and those who committed offenses and knew to do better will be beaten with many stripes(Luke 12:48).  In other words, there will be varying degrees of punishment in hell.  Some people may only suffer for a few seconds where others may suffer for a few hours or days.  However, in the end all sin and sinners will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire.

No problem Lady.  You've contributed substantially to the overall discussion.

On 1/22/2020 at 4:36 PM, Coliseum said:

If a Christian were ever elected, he would have to compromise his godly values to some degree in order to satisfy the world's demands.

This is what I think Obama did.  

On 1/22/2020 at 3:04 AM, K9Buck said:

Obama also oversaw the most corrupt administration in American history.  Hillary, Biden and others were cashing in and getting rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Wow!  Compared to Trump's Administration, the Obama admin were saints in terms of corruption.  No leg to stand on for that argument brother.   

10 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

lawyers for "exposing" the darkness and lies and bringing the Truth to light.

Yep, just like all the media outlets, Trump's personal attorney, his own words, investigations, 20+ women who all shed light on the darkness of Trump's life and his corruption.

3 hours ago, appy said:

The person that has not heard the gospel is equally under God's wrath.

So, what will be the punishment for those who genuinely never heard the gospel or never had a chance to hear?  Eternal flame?  Eternal death?  Second chance purgatory?  I personally do not believe in literal eternal hell fire.  I believe as the Bible says that hell will produce eternal destruction of sin and then hell itself will be cast into hell.  No sin or sinners will be left in the universe.  

1 minute ago, other one said:

as humans get way too populated natural things come along to help out.....    we're seeing that in China today.. God has put in nature ways to balance things....

It won't matter much in a 100 years if the Lord hasn't already returned at that point.  In 1920, the population was 2 billion, and in a mere 100 years it has almost tripled.  

I believe that climate change and the explosion of human population growth are all just signs leading to the end.  By the year 2050, there will 11 billion people in the world.  Imagine that.  The climate is being destroyed, and in the end it will all come to nothing.  Does that mean that we should not try to clean up and heal the environment?  No, we should still care, but we should do so with an understanding that in the end all these point to the end of humanity and Christ's return to this earth.

I'm just here listening to Jay Sekulow speak, and it's just annoying how he's speaking for a President who he, all the Republicans, and the entire world know is scoundrel and liar.  He should be standing for the Lord and not a moral degenerate.

Do you all think people who were good people in life and lived up the knowledge of God they had will be heaven even if they didn't explicitly accept Jesus?  For example, Muslims, Hindus, etc.  Of course, I believe that all people must have Jesus, but others believe that God will give some sort of second chance.

1 minute ago, LadyKay said:

It would fill too many pages in this thread to list all of Trumps's lies. 

lol, very true

9 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Since you have brought charges of lying, you need to provide the lie and what the truth is.  Let's see the facts.

Here's a great link.  However, for those just off the top of my head

1. Jim Comey was a liar, leaker.  Truth-No one really believes Trump over 20 year FBI veteran who was also appointed FBI director.

2.The Trump inauguration crowd size was the largest in history. Truth-alternative facts anyone?

3.Trump said he didn't know the women who he paid off to keep their stories covered up.  Truth-clear

4.Trump said he didn't know Lev Parnas.  Truth-pretty clear he knew him or was at least aware of his dealings for GOP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/12/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

10 minutes ago, other one said:

I think you have been listening to too much CNN and MSNBC

lol, I'll admit I do like watching CNN and MSNBC.  I find that Fox news to be too extreme, although Chris Wallace is legit.  However, my thoughts are formulated number one as a Christian who puts God number 1, and I simply can't fathom how any God fearing Christian could be a vocal supporter of Trump.  I think it's very sad that so many Christians in the Trump era have forgotten where their true loyalties lie.  I mean, let's be honest.  Obama and Clinton have stronger faith in Jesus than Trump.  I think that Obama was an honorably President and behaved himself as such.  Do I support everything he did?  No, I don't, but he was honorable.  He didn't cheat on his wife, grope women, etc.  

9 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Haven't you heard?

Stalin is dead.

Death disqualifies Stalin from any consideration*.

Nearest modern equivalent would be A.O.C. or Berny... 

Doesn't seem like an answer.  So, if he were alive today and running as President in America would you vote under the previous conditions.   Bernie would be bounds above Trump in quality and substance, and I'm sure he wouldn't be putting children in cages, groping 20+ women, cursing like sailors, making fun of other grown adults, lie 12,000+ times, etc.

10 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Not about who a President IS but what a President DOES (as we should vote in every elected office).

Jay and Sarah and pastors across the land who have the guts to stand up for our President should be applauded.

 

So, if Stalin decided to pick conservative justices to the Supreme Court and support conservative purposes, would you vote for him?

Does any have less respect or a lesser view of people like Jay Sekulow, Sarah Sanders, etc. for how they appear to be a mouthpiece for Trump?  I know that Sekulow loves the Lord and has done a lot for Him, and I believe the same about Sanders.  However, both of them have unknowingly or used plausible deniability to essentially lie for Trump or at least repeat his lies.  How can a Christian be a mouthpiece for a proven liar and moral degenerate such as Trump?  I know Sarah Sander had to have known she lied multiple times.  At the least she repeated lies that I'm sure she knew full well they were.  Maybe she reasoned in herself that it's Trump who is lying and not her.  

Does any have less respect or a lesser view of people like Jay Sekulow, Sarah Sanders, etc. for how they appear to be a mouthpiece for Trump?  I know that Sekulow loves the Lord and has done a lot for Him, and I believe the same about Sanders.  However, both of them have unknowingly or used plausible deniability to essentially lie for Trump or at least repeat his lies.  How can a Christian be a mouthpiece for a proven liar and moral degenerate such as Trump?  I know Sarah Sander had to have known she lied multiple times.  At the least she repeated lies that I'm sure she knew full well they were.  Maybe she reasoned in herself that it's Trump who is lying and not her.  

18 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

 I was tickled by what you said about ESPN. You should hear sports radio.

I credit sports with keeping me out of trouble. I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and was addicted to Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. While other college kids were out partying, I was bonding with my brothers and watching sports and staying up all night watching ESPN. A male in my family said football helped him break his addiction from pornography, he needed to focus that energy somewhere else.

Aren’t there games or bloodsports mentioned in the Bible? I think if sports is a healthy way to bond with people and to have a healthy habit, it’s great. When you want to kill the members of the team that beat your team, then it’s an idol. 

That's great that sports helped you while in Chicago.  I'm sure it is a blessing to a lot of people.  I just see so many people make idols of sports, and really when we think about it, people are paying homage to their idols when they wear sports jerseys, etc.  I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wearing jerseys, I just think some people place too much energies into those things.

What do you guys think?  Especially at this time of year and even beyond it seems like Americans focus and talk so much about sports.  It's almost sickening to hear these analysts on ESPN talk about sports like they're dissecting a lung or something.  I mean it just SPORTS!!!  Contrary to common thinking, it ain't life.  Sorry, I just get so tired of people putting so much energies into these stupid stuff of this life.