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tess are you kidding??

i beleive that when it says he "came unto his own" it means he came to us. we belong to him he is our creator who made us. we are his own and when he partook of the same, he partook of our sorrows or sickness or shame our pain and suffering and he was completely forsaken by everybody and God turned his face from him to crucify him so we could live and be freed. i dont think at anytime jesus ever sinned, but on the cross he became sin so that it could be lifted from us.

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i wont because i was just posting not arguing. god bless

nobody can really answer that question. i have never heard anybody talk about what happened when they tried to commit suicide and didnt succedd. nobody knows where the dead goes for a fact. i just believe that god will decide what happens to those that commit suicide. we can have our own opinions. nothing in this world is a guarantee it seems. even people on this board dispute whether being saved keeps you from hell with nothing being able to change that. it seems there is nothing written in granite anywhere in the bible. you can loose your salvation by being unrighteous. it does say in scripture that murderers idolaters and cowards wont get into heaven. but says nothing about the sick and the weak. what about those who are in so much pain due to mental or physical illness that take their own life. if god allows this horrific exsistence for some why? why would he judge those people and commit them to hell for being weak and stupid and afraid?

but suicide IS an easy way out of your problems. it's permanent and the people who commit it are not thinking straight. they are driven to the edge with whatever makes them do it. i do firmly believe it is the devil at work when someone commits suicide, EVEN if those circumstances are in place. i'm not condoning suicide by any means. what i am saying is that i dont think everybody who commits it will go to hell at the judgement. it does depend on the reasons what happened. but then again im not god this is only my belief. i have had the issue to deal with due to clinical depression and i am not proud of it and i know that god saved me from doing it a lot of times because of the fact that suicide can take you to hell. maybe you were a good person and committed no other wrongs, but then commit suicide as a result of other peoples wrongs against you. would you really want to take a chance with the judgement and do a wait and see thing with what God decides. it IS a sin, but i am also talking about forgiveness which the Lord has much of. and ultimately in the end he will make that choice. our job is to not promote the work of the devil by letting something we say cause someone to go over the edge.

everyone knows suicide is wrong. killing oneself is not exactly something people do for kicks or because they are selfishly thinking, like when someone is greedy with money or power. they are usually in terrible pain or at the end of their rope and nobody will help. problems mount up and its all to much to take. i personally have known two people in my life that have chosen suicide as a way out. and only one of them was really mourned over by the people that had something to do with why they took their life! one was my cousin. he died at age 21, he killed himself in his own van at a stop light. he was handsome, had a wife and a small daughter. everybody in the family thought he had everything to live for. but inside his head was a story nobody knew about! he chose to take his life. nobody really knows exactly why. it was a drastic thing for him to do. to this day our family still misses him. he was a special person and very compassionate and tried to be strong for everybody. he was not a evil hater. the other person was my co-worker. he was trying to be a vice prez. of the well known retail chain i work for. he was also very helpful and nobody ever knew of his problems he was always helping with everybody elses! he walked into the ocean and his body floated to shore within a matter of hours. everybody who knew him was shocked and devastated. the corporation had fired him early that morning, he was loosing his wife due to divorce and had just bought a brand new car as well as being 50,000 in debt due to his wife's spending habits. sometimes choices and problems build up and people due foolish things to escape it, like suicide. who knows if they will go to hell, but i hope that the lord jesus christ has mercy, no i know for a fact he has unsurppassing mercy for us. even the scriptures says that. maybe if they had known how much someone loved them they would not have wanted to die but would have been able to love themselves enough to know their lives never should have been taken by their own hand. god bless everybody on this board and everybody who is living.(and not)

i know God can do anything. he can heal any sickness heal any problem a person has, but i have been longing to be healed from many things for a long time now and i have not seen any of it happen. i instead seem to keep facing so many hardships and disappointments and loses. literally nobody understands me and i feel very alone with my infirmities. i lost my husband due to many bad circumstances and i feel very sad and alone about this. i wish that i knew how to solve my problems then i would have hope. i wish the Lord would heal me and then i wouldn't have the problems that i have, but he nver has and my life continues to spiral out of control. why doesn't God heal? Is it because we lack obedience or because he is making plans for our lives? struggling to understand.

hi i think when jesus gave us the advice not to call our brothers(or sisters) in christ a fool, i think he meant that if our brothers or sisters mess up and do something that is foolish or even sinful we are to be supportive and stick by them so that they can not be furthur tempted by the devil and any of his schemes. most of the time when someone stumbles in their walk with christ they need support and forgiveness as well as prayer. jesus was saying instead of standing in opposition of them and pointing out their foolishness and their error, that we shouldn't call them a fool and instead pray for them and give our support and love. we are called to love one another.