Melinda

I completely agree, Mr. Littlejoe, that we will not be here for the wrath of God. Anti-Christ is satans last attempt to win this won battle as per Revelation 12: 12 (satan's wrath, and it is this wrath spoken of in Revelation 12:17, and in Daniel 7:21, and in 2 Thess 2:1-12 and in Matthew 24:4-29, it is interesting that Jesus says let no man deceive you in this matter, and then Paul says the exact same thing in 2 Thess 2:3. Believe me I hope I'm wrong...but this is what the word of God teaches as far as I can read. And I have read it and studied it a lot---hoping I am wrong. Nonetheless, I can see you love the Lord very much, as I do...we all long to see Him...touch Him...Hug Him...Come quickly Lord Jesus. P.S. You are a wonderful evangelist, Lord Jesus teach me how to convey the plan of salvation with as much wisdom as Mr. littlejohn. Sir, you are right, it is totally unthinkable that our precious Jesus would have to suffer again, or that somehow He left something undone. But I'm proposing that as per the word of God as I understand it, that the tribulation is satans attack on the Jew and Christian. Where indeed we will be raptured before God pours out His fury on a marked and terminally rebellious creation. Revelation 15:1 (the wrath of God) and we will not be here for that.

I completely agree, Mr. Littlejoe, that we will not be here for the wrath of God. Anti-Christ is satans last attempt to win this won battle as per Revelation 12: 12 (satan's wrath, and it is this wrath spoken of in Revelation 12:17, and in Daniel 7:21, and in 2 Thess 2:1-12 and in Matthew 24:4-29, it is interesting that Jesus says let no man deceive you in this matter, and then Paul says the exact same thing in 2 Thess 2:3. Believe me I hope I'm wrong...but this is what the word of God teaches as far as I can read. And I have read it and studied it a lot---hoping I am wrong. Nonetheless, I can see you love the Lord very much, as I do...we all long to see Him...touch Him...Hug Him...Come quickly Lord Jesus.

That's right. And I say absolutely nothing. As per Matthew 24:15 "the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel" and Daniel 9:27 the confirming of the covenant with many for one week, and then in the midst of the covenant causing the sacrifice and the oblation to cease... The signing of the "peace agreement" in April 2003 in Israel could be this of that which is spoken...but we would still need a Temple that the Jews are sacrificing in, and where the anti-Christ would cause the abomination of desolation to happen, and proclaim himself God, 2 Thess 2:3-4, all this is still possible though...the Berlin Wall came down overnight. October 2006 will be three and one half years since that agreement was signed, and that would make one of those signers the anti-christ. Bush loves the Lord, Sharon is in a coma, Putin is alive and well and arming the middle east at an alarming rate, Egypt has recently been accused of penetrating Israel Airspace for the first time since 1967. So ? Is this the covenant spoken of in Daniel? We will know by the end of this year...otherwise we're looking for "he will confirm the covenant with many for one week. And a temple where the abomination of desolation will take place, Some of the church would say we're outta here so this is all moot. Documentation available upon request.

no there are absolultely no verses that say the church will be raptured, (Edited by Moderator). And why would it be raptured? Since when does the church get to escape persecution lol? Ridiculous. And who in the world would be left to PREACH THE GOSPEL DUH? Who would he persecute? The figments of his imagination? So stupid man, I hate that false doctrine, hate it! By the way can anyone help me find a book called A Chart of the Last Days and the End, its not in the major or christian bookstores, its supposed 2 be unique in that it only uses scripture verses. Anyone know anything about it? I think you might try Christian Book Distributors at www.christianbook.com. I agree with you on the basis of 2 Thess 2:1-12 that we will be here...Jesus knows the Church is going through horrible persecution overseas right now. It would be nice if the American church would be spared, but from what I read in my Bible, (and I just read it) it seems there may be hard times ahead. Praise God the Lord has promised to be with us no matter what...and yes it does seems like the Church in America is "gone", it makes me very unhappy and restless. However we know there will always be a significant remnant that will not bow the knee to Baal...which is why we are able to chat right now.

no there are absolultely no verses that say the church will be raptured, (Edited by Moderator). And why would it be raptured? Since when does the church get to escape persecution lol? Ridiculous. And who in the world would be left to PREACH THE GOSPEL DUH? Who would he persecute? The figments of his imagination? So stupid man, I hate that false doctrine, hate it! By the way can anyone help me find a book called A Chart of the Last Days and the End, its not in the major or christian bookstores, its supposed 2 be unique in that it only uses scripture verses. Anyone know anything about it?