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  1. Now that alot of that confusion is out of the way. I do disagree with your assessment on what the Jews of that day believed and the Romans 7 man. The law which Paul thought was to bring life only brought condemnation. Paul was a devout Jew who delighted in the law. A believer is not under the law. When Paul was talking about the sin in himself, he was referring to being under the law and not being able to keep it because the sin in Him took advantage of the law. Romans 7:13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. We now have His Spirit and can follow Him under the law of the Spirit of life. What the law, "Commandments," couldn't do, 'deal with our sin,' God did by sending our own Son. In Christ we are free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, What is the law of sin and death? Romans 7:21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. The sin that took advantage of the law producing evil desire in us. We are free from that. We no longer have to live bound to it. You said the Jews had a difference of opinion of sin, but the sacrifices were a reminder of sin. They knew what sin was because of the law, and sacrifices were made year after year reminding them that they missed it. Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. Paul knew what sin was because of the law, and realized the law lacked what he needed to keep it. Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. To say that the Romans 7 man is a believer struggling with the flesh is to say that we are under the law, but we are not. The Romans 7 man was under the law. We died to the law so we can be married to Christ. Romans 7:4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. Do you see what that passage is talking about? We become dead to the law to be married to Christ so we can bear fruit to God. It says, "When we were in the flesh" pointing back to being under the law. But now we've been delivered from the law so we can serve in the newness of the Spirit! The Spirit produces fruit to God. Again, Paul says, we are not under the law. The flesh and the Spirit are contrary to one another. Galatians 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. When we come to Christ the flesh is crucified with Him and it's desires. Galatians 5:24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. Such a glorious Gospel! That the blood of Jesus frees me from who I was. That old man is dead, there is no resurrecting him. A big issue is when we try to make the old man look like Jesus instead of letting him go. Colossians 3:8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord Colossians 3:1 Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, 10 and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, Colossians 1:1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God Colossians 3:22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. Here is where we differ in our theology. I believe I am who God says I am, that the Born again me is the real me, the old man is dead, who I was in the flesh, now I need to renew my mind to the reality of Christ and put off the residue of the former life. If I sin, that is not who I am, I'm acting out of character to who I really am in Christ. God made me righteous so that righteousness can manifest through my life and now I am free to fully follow the Lord with everything we are. You believe, please correct me if I'm wrong, that you are born again, and your spirit doesn't sin, but you have an evil in your body that will always be driven to sin and are waiting for Jesus to return to give you a new nature with a new body. If you sin, that's just because your a sinner whose saved by the mercy of God. God legally says your righteous but your not really righteous because we lack the ability to fully follow after God because of the sin that dwells in us.
  2. Paul, being under the law knows what it is like to live under the law. Trying to follow the law, he found another law inside himself the law of sin. Sin took advantage of the law. Romans 6:13-20, Paul is still talking about the context of the law and how the law was week because of sin in him. Romans 7:12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. Law Cannot Save from Sin 13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin The law itself cannot save us from sin. But what the law couldn't do, God did by sending His own son. Paul knew what sin was because he was under the law, the law revealed sin. If flesh wasn't an issue for him then he would have fulfilled this law without falling short. He came to the realization he could not do the law because of sin in him. Sin produced evil desire inside of him as he tried following the law. Romans 7:1 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. The law doesn't save us from sin, Jesus does. We're under a better covenant. 2 Corinthians 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit, for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. Glory of the New Covenant 7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. I find it interesting that many religions try to obtain righteousness by works and they are in constant fear because they fall short of their own standards. I've seen this witnessing to Muslims, Hindus, Mormons,etc. They don't have the Spirit to empower them against the flesh. Unbelievers more than struggle against the flesh, they are ruled by it and dominated by it. Imagine a Christian who is trying to do all the things the bible says but has no real relationship with God and doesn't have the Spirit. You cannot follow God without the Spirit. I'm finding that many non-believers are completely convicted about their sins and wrong doings, some even to the point of suicide because they don't know the price Jesus paid. I remember a gang member that I came across, he did some messed up stuff and was contemplating suicide because of the condemnation and guilt he felt. We were out witnessing and my friend had a vision of a graveyard, so we went to the grave yard and found him. We shared the Gospel with him, and he started crying when he could be forgiven. What blew my mind was he had no grid for Christianity, no background in Christianity, but felt the guilt of sin. He gave his life to the Lord, left that gang and now attends prayer meetings every week last I heard. I believe that our salvation is dependent on a relationship with Him. Jesus paid for all our sins, past, present, and future. In Him we are born again, a new creation, a new man created in righteousness and holiness, citizens of Zion, and our spirits are made perfect and joined with the Holy Spirit. This is not something we can do, but it's His work in us. If we do sin, we are living below our new nature and do not yet know who we are in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:16 Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. I don't believe that we are saved, lost, re-saved, lost, and re-saved again based on every time we commit sin and repent. I believe when we are born again, a new creation born of the Spirit, but our soul (Mind, will, and emotions) are still wired to the old creation. The old man is dead, we just still think like Him, have emotional attachments to him, etc... Our minds need renewed. Who we are born again, is who we truly are, who God created us to be. Our minds need renewed to who we are in Him and the life we lived that fell short of the glory, we are no longer bound to. Jesus said it is finished. He gave me His righteousness, and I'm in the process of learning to walk it out. I've been a believer for 11 years, and the Lord has never left me, even when I've stumbled in sin. My salvation is dependent on Him, not my own actions. I don't work to become righteous, I work because He made me righteous. I was responding to the OP, Yes I believe we can walk blameless and we are fully sanctified because Christ is our sanctification. I believe that we can walk with the Lord in such a way that we know nothing against ourselves and our conscience is perfect before the Lord. We can walk with the Lord without sinning because Christ lives in us and His grace empowers us to follow after Him. We don't have to sin anymore. We can live according to the Spirit and out to death the deeds of the flesh. Victory over sin? We already have it, Jesus! We are now in the process of walking out His victory. Can a believer stumble and still be saved? Yes. Does a believer have to stumble? no. Can a believer walk without stumbling? yes. There is no sin that Jesus lacks the power to help us overcome.
  3. A Jew trying to obey the law without the power of the Spirit is going to struggle with the flesh. That was Paul's issue, he delighted in the law, but the law only brought death because the law provided no way to overcome the flesh. Romans 7 is trying to obey the law in the flesh. Romans 8 says we should live according to the Spirit and not the flesh. Christ overcame the flesh! He overcame the world and He lives in us. Our lives are hidden in Him. Who we were that fell short of the glory is dead, and we are a new creation in Him, born again. We still think like the old so we still sin, there is a process of renewing your mind. A flaw in your theology is that you believe the flesh is more powerful than God Himself living in us. I am also not claiming we don't sin, we will never sin, I'm simply saying that Jesus made the provision for us to walk righteous, His Spirit. The implications of my theology are only what you put there. Paul probably went through the process as everyone else, but he also lived in a place where he knew nothing against Himself. Could we live in such a place of intimacy with God that we know nothing against ourselves? Yes, also there is no sin that Jesus lacks the power to help us overcome. 1 Corinthians 4:4 For I know of nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord. There is not enough scriptural evidence to say that Paul walked in unforgiveness, especially how the Lord used him to write so much of the NT. That's a heavy thing to accuse Paul of with such little evidence. Matthew 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Then why all the passages about renewing your mind? If you think like your old man, that's carnal thinking. Before we come to the Lord, we have a lifetime of thinking like the devil, our minds need renewed to the reality of Christ in us. I also am not saying we won't stumble, I'm saying God is able to keep us from stumbling. An occasional failure doesn't mean we are a sinner either. Who we are born again is who we are, our old man is dead, we are alive in Him. If we do sin, we have an advocate. He is amazing, He paid for all our sins, but He doesn't leave us in our sin, He empowers us to overcome it. A sinner is someone whose identity is in sin, I'm a son of God. . 2 Corinthians 5:21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 6:1We then, as workers together with Him also plead with you not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation. 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. The righteousness He gave me is real righteousness. Shiloh, you are really righteous in Him. He lives in you! You are no longer a sinner, you are free! Rejoice in Him! He doesn't just call you righteous to get you into heaven but He lives in you through the Holy Spirit empowering you to be like Him! Reckon yourself dead to sin and alive in Him! He wants to demonstrate His righteousness through you to the world around you! You are His ambassador, a citizen of heaven here to show the world what He's really like. Romans 6:4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6:11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Your theology gives excuse to sin if being dead to sin means only the punishment of it. 1 John 3:17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. Christ is our victory over sin. He paid for the sins. We are growing and learning to walk and live out His victory. He has total victory over sin, He was perfect, sinless, and He took away my sins. Now I'm learning to walk according to the righteousness He gave me. Who I am is in Him, if I stumble, I'm acting off an old man who is dead and gone. He really took away my sin! It doesn't exist any more. The blood of Jesus covers me and I'm washed clean, I'm made righteous! Now, I'm learning to walk according to that. I remember, I was stuck in a cycle for years of shame, believing I was unworthy, wretched, and I viewed myself as a sinner longing for righteousness. I was at a prophetic prayer meeting, and the Lord put on my heart to wash everyone's feet who was there. I did, blocking out my thoughts of how ridiculous that looked, I washed everyones feet, then the Holy Spirit fell and everyone there started getting visions. I saw a picture of a 6 and a 7. Numbers mean something to me, and that was how I viewed myself, a sinful man 6 reaching out for righteousness 7. Then the Lord said NO so loud in my heart that it shook me, then I saw a 7 and an 8 He said, "You are not a sinner reaching out to righteousness, I made you righteous now your reaching onto eternity." I had no idea what that meant at the time but now I'm experiencing the freedom of being made right with God. I see it all through out the bible, sins separated me from Him, but He made me right, now I'm no longer striving to be righteous, I'm living in that place and it's manifesting through my actions. I'm growing from glory to glory instead of bummer to bummer. There is a process, and I'm still on it. I just believe that He made me righteous. I can start from that place cause I'm living on His righteousness and not my own. We both interpret the sin nature different, sin is not my nature and it's not yours either. The problem is we have a lifetime of thinking like the old man, our mind needs renewed and that renewal causes transformation (Romans 12:2) Transformation into what? Into the image of Christ. You assume alot about my theology that isn't true and also do not understand my logic. We are saved by Jesus, it is His work on the cross and His grace in our lives that saved us. We cannot save ourselves, and our salvation is not dependent on whether we slip or not. I am simply saying that God in me is more powerful than sin and His grace can keep us from stumbling. He made us righteous so we can start there because we could never work for that. If we do sin, He pulls us back. We died our lives are hidden in Him. Those Churches are full of people who are discovering who they are in Him and awakening to the grace available to them. But I am perfectly sinless! Praise the Lord because I used to be really messed up. His blood removed my sin! It doesn't exist anymore. He made me white as snow. Jesus was perfectly sinless, yet became my sin on the cross that I might become His righteousness. The problem is, I actually believe in what He did for me. John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. If He paid the price for my sin, removed it as far as the east is from the west, took it away, and remembers it no more, do I still have it?
  4. The first part of that is about the law, and the second is a law in the flesh, but there's a third law, the law of the Spirit, a new way to serve God that overcomes the flesh. Romans 7:5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. The new way of the Spirit, the law of the Spirit has set us free from the law of sin and death (Flesh), because the law (Torah) was weak and couldn't free us, God freed us by sending His son. Romans 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. The old way, (law) Could not help us overcome the flesh, the new way, Spirit does. Romans 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. . Paul labored and risked his life to establish a foundation and was going back to pour into the work of his labor. Mark bailed out the first time, should he be a partaker of the spoil? Also, it could have been an issue of Marks character at the time or still dealing with an immaturity and would have been a danger to what was planted, Barnabas had emotional attachment because they were family so Barnabas stuck up for Mark. Was Paul in the right in not taking Mark, or was Barnabas in error? You see them reconciled later, but it doesn't give you any evidence enough to make a claim that Paul was in unforgiveness. Wouldn't unforgiveness defile the conscience? Acts 23:1Then Paul, looking earnestly at the council, said, “Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.” Our flesh is not our nature, but the carnal mind that is at enmity against God. Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Ephesians 5:22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. Transformation happens as our mind is renewed. Romans 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. We are no loner bound to live by the flesh. Holy Spirit empowers us to put to death the deeds of our flesh. I'm righteous because He is righteous. He paid for all my sin on the cross, it's gone. He gave me His righteousness, imputed through faith, but it is real righteousness. Think about it, God declares us righteous, how dare we say, well we're not really righteous, God just pretends that we are. If we believe we are sinners, we will sin by faith, but if we believe that we are righteous, holy, a new creation, our actions will follow. Our actions follow what we believe. I am not a sinner, I am a saint, I am a child of God, and though sometimes I can slip into sin, that is not who I am. I believe that God living in me makes me a holy vessel, I'm a house fit for a King, and He loves to live in me. I have so much joy with God knowing I'm in right standing with Him, that He made me righteous, that there is nothing that can separate me from Him, and I have the joy to partake in His nature. Believing this adds such a deep intimacy with God because your prayer life and relationship with God becomes praise, worship and adoration in awe of who He is instead of just sin management. The process of understanding who we are as Children of God and being transformed into the image of Christ is delivering us from old habits and ways of living. That has everything to do with the process of sanctification. I'm a child of God, a new creation, my old man died, and I'm alive in Him, my life is hidden in Christ. AS I discover Christ, I discover who I am in Him. 2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. YES! Praise the Lord that we can participate the in His victory! We are dead to sin, we are no longer under it's power praise the Lord! I am in full agreement! Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. So your saying its right to believe that we can participate in Christs victory, but wrong to believe that His victory can manifest in and through our lives? I thought we're supposed to become like Christ. We are free from the separation sin causes, we are free from condemnation, but we are also free from participating in sin. Your a slave to who you obey, and you no longer have to obey sin! Romans 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. We are to reckon we are dead to sin, yet be convinced that sin is alive and well in us because of our nature? That doesn't make sense. Romans 6:11Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Jesus invites you into a lifestyle of intimacy where we die to the life that fell short of His glory and become a new creation made as a spectacle of His righteousness, nature, and glory as children of God. The bible anticipates that we learn Christ and put off who we were in the flesh by renewing our minds. Yes! Yes and amen, it's all about relationship. We can never preform good enough for Him, truth is He preformed for us, He lived righteously and took our sins upon Himself and gave us His righteousness. We walk in His victory, and it's all out of relationship with Him! That is God's goal and the basis of eternal life. John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I went from striving to overcoming sin to just falling in love with Jesus As I grow in intimacy with God, I naturally do the things that are pleasing to Him. It's not forced or a struggle, When we live in intimacy with Him, we are empowered to righteousness. I'm blessed with a good marriage. I don't need a list on the door saying, "No cheating, no flirting with other guys, no drugs, no etc." Out of our relationship, we naturally do the things that please each other. In the same way, out of our relationship with God we are empowered to live pleasing to Him. We want to, it's no longer contrary to our nature. I don't walk righteous and live holy because I want to be accepted or earn His love, I do because I have been accepted and I know His love and obedience to Him is a responce to that love.
  5. Romans 7:1 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law— Paul isn't talking about an unbeliever in Romans 7 but a Jew who is trying to follow God under the law. As Paul said in 7:10 "I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death." The law reveals sin, but condemns us instead of bringing life. The law could not bring righteousness, that was the problem with the Romans 7 man. The conclusion Romans 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. Romans 6 is talking about how we died to sin, we are no longer slaves to sin, we died to the law so we can be married to another, Romans 8 is talking about how we can walk according to the Spirit and put to death the deeds of the flesh. When I was a new believer, I used Romans 7 as a license to sin. I remember buying a case of beer because I thought, well even Paul struggled with sin. I didn't realize that there was grace available to overcome. I didn't realize how powerful the love and grace of God is. 2 Corinthians 3:9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! With Paul and unforgiveness, you can see he had a dispute with Barnabas and Mark, and wouldn't let Mark jump back into what they labored for, but there is no scriptural evidence for unforgiveness, there is no passages saying Paul was dealing with unforgiveness. Paul Himself even said, "Be angry but do not sin" in Ephesians. So the dispute with Barnabas does not mean Paul was sinning. Your assuming I'm making those assumptions. Christ overcame sin and made us new in Him. I do not believe we have a sin nature when we come to the Lord, we have a new heart, but a mindset wired to the old one. We have been given a new nature, but we still believe we are the old creation. When I came to the Lord about 11 years ago, I ran back to drugs for a year right after I got saved and it no longer satisfied me. I was convicted and more depressed instead of high and comfortable, What was going on was my nature was different, and sin was violating my new nature. I do not believe that we lose the capacity to sin when we come to the Lord but the nature of it. We need to be renewed to who we are in Him. We died and our lives are hidden in Him. I died, and who I am is fully in Christ. Adam and Eve did not have a sin nature, yet they sinned. That shows that it doesn't take a sin nature to sin, it takes free will and the ability to believe a lie. The devil lies about who we are. God says we are His Children, created in righteousness and holiness. If you believe you are still the old, you are believing a lie. I believe if someone gives you a gift it is yours. We have been given a gift of righteousness, it's ours. I can believe I'm righteous and I can reckon myself dead to sin because of what Jesus did on the cross, and when I have my new glorified body, who I am will be fully revealed. If a sinner is redeemed, he is no longer a sinner. He is made a saint, if he does sin, he doesn't realize who he is. We are growing into the reality of being His children. We become partakers of the divine nature, His nature is our born again nature. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 2 Corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! 3 Peter 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. It is a process, but the process is believe that you are who God says you are. Your capacity to sin is to the degree of your unrenewed mind. We are all in the process of being renewed to the reality of the New man we are, created in righteousness and holiness. We are not born again sinners, who we are as Born again is who we truly are, we just believe we're still the old man. We are no longer bound to sin, we don't have to sin. What sin is there that Holy Spirit lacks the power to help us overcome Shiloh? Can you name one sin that is to big for Holy Spirit to change and empower us to overcome?
  6. I agree, we can never achieve anything through our own efforts and we must rely fully on the grace of God. I believe that is the core of Romans 7. When Paul was under the law, he was bound because in Himself he had no way to overcome, the sinfulness of man took advantage of the law. But Romans 7 starts out by us dying to the law so we can be married to another Christ. Romans 6 says we died over and over again and are no longer slaves to sin. Romans 7 shows someone who is a slave to sin. Romans 8 shows that we have been given His Spirit to empower us to walk righteously. It's His grace that we can walk righteous and blameless. It's His Spirit empowering us. Romans 8:9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. The Spirit is what empowers us to put to death the deeds of the flesh. Romans 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. The war you mentioned in Galatians shows its either one or the other, not both. The flesh does war against the Spirit, but the Spirit is what puts to death the deeds of the flesh. It's only by the Holy Spirit we shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. If you walk in the Spirit you won't fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Galatians 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. There is no sin too big for God, there is no sin we are bound to. We have been set free and His power helps us walk free. If that's not true, what sin is so big that God lacks the power to help you overcome it? I think that one of the differences of interpretation comes from our understanding of what the flesh is. I do not believe the flesh is my body, or some nature in my body that I’m stuck with, but the carnal way of thinking. We have a lifetime where our thoughts, memories, habits, etc are programed after the devil. That is why Jesus came on the scene saying repent “Change your mind” The Kingdom of heaven is at hand. Meaning renew your mind to the truth. Romans 8:5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. We need our minds renewed to the reality of what He’s done. Transformation comes from renewing our mind. Romans 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. We need to put off the old man and live as the New Man, created in righteousness and holiness. Ephesians 4:21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. When we came to Christ, we become a new creation. Our old man is dead, crucified with Christ and we are new created in true righteousness and holiness. The issue is we still think like the old, now we are in the process of renewing our minds to the reality of who God says we are. If I believe I'm just a wretched sinner, I'm going to sin out of faith. But, if I believe that I am who God says I am, righteous, holy, blameless my actions are going to follow. I also believe the goal of the Holy Spirit is not to make us just not sin any more, but that we would look just like Christ. Ephesians 4:2 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; Holy Spirit is transforming us into the image of Christ. 2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.
  7. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
  8. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father Who is in heaven is perfect. Matthew 5:48 Just read Matthew 5:43-47, and you will find out Christ was not commanding sinless perfection, but the perfection of Love thru the Holy Spirit. And above all these things put on the charity, which is the bond of perfectness. Colossians 3:14 Charity is the same as love. Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit to unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently. I Peter 1:22 Love this is what the Spirit spreads abroad in our hearts, Romans 5:5; and this why Jesus said we would be known by our love, John 13:34-35. From what I understand this is what John Wesley saw as being fully sanctify, not sinlessness, but having God's love so filling our hearts that the brethren can fell it being around you. I have been honored to meet two such people in my life in person and both were women this is when you know that they have been in God's presence. Beside fleeing idolatry, I Corinthians 10:14; one of other sins that God never wants His children to commit, and it is one of the most acceptable sins around. God never will justify a believer being unforgiving, for that matter when we refuse to forgive others is one of the few times, God doesn't call Himself our Heavenly Father, just Father, (and think of what kind of problem were cause when you were disobedient to your earthly father--Hebrews 12:5-11). 14) For, if ye forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15) But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15 Here in Matthew's Gospel God is our Heavenly Father who forgives us if forgive others, but if not He is just the Father who doesn't forgive us; by the way this reads we will all sin and need His forgiveness, and it is free as long as we forgive others. Notice God doesn't mention our trespasses at all when we forgive other, because Christ has may us righteous, II Corinthians 5:21; but we are fully charge with our trespasses when we don't forgive others. Paul wrote of His need for Christ forgiveness for sins, even after he accepted Christ: 24) O wretched man that i am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25) I thank God, through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Romans 7:24-25 And as the two verses surrounding Willa, I John 1:9 (great verse Willa) state: 8) If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. I John 1:8; 10 Great answer, as always Shiloh and Willa. In Romans 7, Paul is talking about about following God under the law, (Torah) in the flesh. The point of that is the law itself cannot produce righteousness because it is weak through the flesh. We need something else, the Spirit. We have been set free from the law, that we may serve Him in the newness of the Spirit. Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. Paul brought the Romans 7 struggle to a beautiful conclusion in Romans 8. Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. If Paul was referring to his personal struggle as a believer, then he lied to the Corinthians. 1 Corinthians 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by a human court. In fact, I do not even judge myself. 4 For I know of nothing against myself, yet I am not justified by this; but He who judges me is the Lord. And also in court, Acts 23:1Then Paul, looking earnestly at the council, said, “Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day
  9. If you have to wait until you die to be blameless and sanctified, then Jesus isn't your savior, death is. Christ has become our righteousness, in Him we are blameless. He gave us righteousness as a gift and His Spirit in us to empower us to walk it out. 1 Corinthians 1:30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.” Colossians 1:21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— We are no longer slaves to sin. Romans 6:5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. So be fully convinced (Reckon) Romans 6:11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. What you believe concerning this will either justify sin in your life, or set you free so you can enjoy the loving relationship with the Father with a perfect conscience. If we believe we are sinners, we will sin by faith, but if we believe that He is our righteousness, He paid for our sins and made us blameless in His sight then we have freedom to live in the joy of His righteousness. As for me, I am fully convinced God's ability to keep me from stumbling is greater than my ability to fail.
  10. Psalm 115:16The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s; But the earth He has given to the children of men. I believe the earth, He gave for man to steward. The devil is the god of this world to the degree mankind is influenced by and serving him. 1 John 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
  11. Here's what happened last Thursday. God's love has been crashing in on this family the last month or so. Abigail came in with a boot cast, and well.... Holy Spirit took advantage of that to show His love.
  12. But we are under a new law, a law greater than just the moral laws, it's to love others as He loved us. John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” Jesus obeyed His Fathers commands so we could obey His. John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. 11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. His commandment is to believe in Jesus and love one another., 1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. We are under a law, but it's the perfect law of liberty. There was a change of law because Jesus was from a different priesthood. Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. And where there's a new law, there is annulling of the old, making the old obsolete. Hebrews 7:18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Hebrews 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Now, the moral law is fulfilled is love they neighbor as thyself. We are not under the 10 commandments, because one commandment that fulfills them all. Living out this commandment to love as Jesus loves us and we will live out the moral law from the heart. Romans 13:8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. It's radical love that Jesus laid His life down for us, and we also ought to lay our lives down for one another. This is His commandment, and this command can't be faked. God took the law and made it a heart issue. We could do the moral law and live by it, and be twisted in our hearts. The law of Jesus brings the moral law to the heart, which can only be lived out in relationship with Him. Romans 7:4Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
  13. I'm referring to the "yet what I shall choose I cannot tell." in vs.22
  14. Philippians 1:21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. 24 Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. Just wondering, was Paul saying that it was his choice whether he lived or died? *Edit* Why did Paul say "What I shall Choose I cannot tell" in vs 22.
  15. According to the good book,The Father withholds forgiveness when we withhold forgiveness. Matthew 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:25 “And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. 26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.” Here's an interesting parable, Matthew 18:22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28 “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down at his feet[d] and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.” I believe the "torturers" in this parable are referring to the demonic, if we don't forgive, then we're not forgiven. If we're not forgiven, then the devil has authority over us in that area. With deliverance, a lot of it is working people through unforgiveness to see them set free. Jesus made it clear, we are to forgive. Ignoring that is to ignore His own words.
  16. you also have the option of having the old tat removed. I think they can do it now with a laser. If it was something you put on before you became a Christian, I would not worry about it. True, but majorly expensive, especially for the size of the tattoo on my back. It would be way cheaper to get it covered. I'm not worried about it. I do alot of street ministry and I see the Lord touch and bless a lot of people who are tattooed and pierced up. I personally have no problem with them.
  17. I have a question. I have a foot long scorpion on my back that relates to a horoscope and a worldly band name I got before i was really walking with the Lord. I want to get a cross covering the band name and crushing the head of the scorpion an get the verse Luke 10:18 "And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you." So for those against tattoos, would it be sin to cover up something satanic with a tattoo that represents my walk with the Lord?
  18. James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. Just wondering, do you eat bacon, shell fish, or rare steak? Just saying, if you're going to pull a command from a law we're no longer under,..(Lev 11:47, Lev 3:17, Lev 17:12) Romans 7:1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? 2 For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. 4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. Galatians 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Galatians 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
  19. With me, I noticed the more time I spend with God, the more I can hear Him, I'll pray, worship, and even be quiet and meditate on God and being aware of His presence through out the day. When I read scripture from that place, it comes alive and Holy Spirit starts teaching you from scripture. I've noticed He'll use believers to confirm things also, like when you read the bible and go to Church and the sermon just so happens to be on what you just read. He also speaks through dreams, visions, prophetic words of others, which never will take away or add on to scritpure, but will compliment the word and make scripture more personal. Just to clarify, if God is calling you to be a missionary in Iraq, you will not find in the bible that you personally are called for that, You can find in the bible how a missionary is supposed to function and how the Apostles brought the Gospel to hostile areas and gain a foundation for that, but you cannot find, "I have called hamelcat to be a missionary" in the bible. That can be revealed through a dream, prophetic word, conviction of your heart, and will be confirmed over and over again. With that, it's important to learn prophetic protocal with judging and weighing words. Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” With hearing God, really it all comes down to relationship. In your intimate time with Him, you get to know Him. John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Every way the Lord communicates with us is through the Holy Spirit. When we read the word and gaining revelation, that revelation is through the Holy Spirit revealing the word. The bible is a closed book apart from the Holy Spirit. On another note, Holy Spirit will never lead you away from scripture but deeper in scripture. He will never contradict scripture, however, He will contradict our understanding of scripture. John 5:39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. Holy Spirit has been given to us to be our teacher. He will teach us all things, He will use Scripture, other believers, teachers, dreams, visions, all to convey His heart toward us. John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. 1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. People take lightly the Holy Spirit, but the Holy Spirit is God Himself with us and in us, transforming us into the image of Him. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.
  20. Acts 13:8-12King James Version (KJV) 8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. 9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him. 10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? 11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. 12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord. How readesth thou ? Paul was operating in the power of the Holy Spirit. His heart wasn't vengence on his enemies but he saw the sorcerer intentially decieving and the Holy Spirit unctioned him to prophesy that he would be blind for a season. Paul didn't pray for his enemy to be destroyed; he declaired what God was doing. Through the Holy Spirit, he stopped a hinderence to the gospel and the result was salvation and possibly the salvation of the sorcerer after the season of blindness was over. If anything this should teach us to seek after the power of the Holy Spirit when sharing the Gospel, not pray destruction for our enemies. Titus 3:2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. 3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. But now that you brought up Paul, should Paul have seen distruction for persicuting the Church? What if Stevens responce to the persicution was, Father destroy them, which one looks more like Jesus? Acts 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and ran at him with one accord; 58 and they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not charge them with this sin.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep. Jesus, during humanities most wretched sin ever commited (Killing the Son of God) said, Father forgive them. Luke 23:34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” And they divided His garments and cast lots. He tells us to love the same way. John 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. Now destroy my enemies (people) is not compatable with love, and according to the bible, those who do not love do not know God. 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. God desires all to be saved 1 Timothy 2:1Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. And is even delaying His coming in judgement not willing that any should parish. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
  21. I agree, satans been thrown down for 2000 years, it was at the cross, he lost his power and authority. Jesus said in refering to the cross, John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” 33 This He said, signifying by what death He would die. 34 The people answered Him, “We have heard from the law that the Christ remains forever; and how can You say, ‘The Son of Man must be lifted up’? Who is this Son of Man?” Refering to the Holy Spirit, John 16:11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. Who the Spirit manifests the Kingdom of God dethrowning the kingdom of darkness and establishing His reign and rule. Matthew 12:8 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. The devil has been cast out, lets plunder His goods! Matthew 12:29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. Gates are a deffencive structure, that means we're on the offence, satan has been cast of heaven! Matthew 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Jesus gave us the authority Luke 10:18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” And took the judgement of the world upon Himself making a public specticle. Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it. The power of the accuser was our sin, our debt has been paid with the blood of Jesus. There is nothing left to accuse us of, Jesus paid the price for the world. 1 John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. Revelation 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. Male Child = Jesus goes up to heaven Revelation 5:5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Jesus goes up and the devil comes down. Revelation 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
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