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Has anyone ever wondered how God could take delite in making people come to Him against their wills, by this so called "regeneration". They are really nothing more than brainwashed. when they come to Him, it is only because they had no choice. When in reality they would realy prefer to continue hating Him. When the truth is to be told, they don

Some say that those who arer not predestind to salvation can not obey HIS command because HE will not give them the ability or the will to obey(that is a devilish tyrant). Please, tell me why God would command to repent and have faith but not give the ability of will to obey the command? Example: God: Recieve My Son to be forgiven of your sin. However, I will not give you the will to do that because I did not predestin you for that, therefore, I will conemn you for not obeying me.

So if someone goes forward and recites some sort of sinners prayer, he is home and hosed and glory bound. Is that what you are saying? That you are no longer a sinner, because you have followed the steps to salvation?I say that if you are truly saved, one shouldn't be called a sinner. You think that because a christian sins, he should be called a sinner. My whole poinbt is that term should only be for, well, sinners, the wiched, the non-saved. A christian who sins does not make him a sinner, makes his weak or in the flesh and so forth. You make your point out of one scripture, I make mine out of 66. Go figure. I relize just what a sinner one actually is and I've been trying to show you. Grace is undeserved, I know that, however Now that I have Grace, I do not desere the wrath that sinner have. I have a Dr. of theology agreeing with all this. Pobably, because he understands what I am saying which aparently you don't. I don't know why you get your shorts all in a bunch over a term which is used for the unsaved 66 times out of all the 67 times in the whole entire Bible. I am on the scriptural side of the argument, you are on the emotional sentimental side, pleas face the facts of the biblical term of the use of the word sinner as I am trying to explain.

Stumbling cannot be used as an excuse for not siining and has to be repented of and forgiven asked. You don't have to premeditate sin to be guilty of sin, but if you do not confess your blunder and repent of it and seek forgiveness, Jesus said in Luke.13, if you dont repent, you will perish. Taking up the cross is not easy, but oh! the joy of the rewards. You are a sinner, mate, albeit a forgiven one. I agree, however, The point I am making is that Cristians are not "sinners" Just because a christian sins, does not make him a sinner. A sinner is one who practises sin. One who sins with out remorse. One who does not hate sin. One who noes not have Eternal life. No christian will be accountable for their sin/sins when he/she stands before the Lord on judgement day. Romans 4:8 blessed the man to whom the Lord will in no way charge/account/impute sin."

Sorry, I thought I was responding to your points. Please restate them. It's not the"new man". All people have inner men, the inner man is the soul. Paul was a Pharisee, he loved God's law while he was unsaved. What are the points that I am missing, what is the text that is being discussed? Here is one: Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. Psalm 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. or is that not relevent eather, as you say? There are a total of 46 uses of the term "sinners" and 21 uses of the term "sinner". You use only one that is used for the reason of humility and regret. The other 66 uses of the word "sinners" & "sinner" is what I am talking about. Yes. I did not hate my neighbor. There was not chance to love(verb) my neighbor. I do love God. I prove my love to Him by walking after the Spirit to fulfill the righteousness of the law(Rom 8:4) In return, I do not walk after the flesh, so as not to fulfil the lust of it.(Gal 5:16) Notice the vers That I quoted along with my answer? Psalm 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults. I may have sinned today, but I don't recall willingly rebeling against God today. I have no motive to sin. I may stumble, goof up, mess up, what ever. However, I am not premedtating sin at all. Sinners liv in sin. They willingly rebeling against God and premedtate sin along with every motive of there heart that is against God. If this is you, since you call yourself a sinner, Repent and stop living in sin. No Christian goes around habitualy sinning or practising nin all day, or even premedtates to sin, If you do, Stop it and repent you filthy sinner!!!! I do admit that I do stumble, have you not read that i admit to sinning? I acknowledge what a terrible sinner that I really was. However, Now I don't practise sin or habitualy sin. All I do is stumble with sin.

I do. We are legally counted, therfore actualy righteous. No, the only way you are not a sinner is if you do not practise sin. That much is very clear. That is what this verse means: 1John 3:6 1Jn 3:6 Every one abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone sinning has not seen Him, nor known Him. The word "sinning" is present contiual active. That is not real Christians Romans 7 is his presalvation confesion. It is not twisting Scripture and very honest. Because the term relates to the unsaved and those who practise sin. I'm not proud nor am I saying that I never stumble with sin, I am only stating the fact of the term. Do you know how to read? Not in deed, but maybe in though, but that I am not sure of. Psalm 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

The audacity is from studying the term. If Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, and Paul was still a sinner, that would mean that he still needed saving after wards. 1Timothy 1:15 Trustworthy is the word and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, foremost of whom I am. Meaning that he is a saved sinner, therefore, no longer a sinner. As you notice two verses before, Who wasbefore a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: 1Timothy 1:13 Admitting that he was a sinner. All other verses in the whole New Testement with the word "sinner" Strongs Greek #268 is not the Christian or saved, Only that one time in 1Timothy 1:13 is Paul calling himself a sinner, So, whydid paul say this? Out of humility and regret, not of actuality. Romans 3:7 For if in my lie the truth of God abounded to His glory, why am I yet judged as a sinner? Paul is calling himself not a sinner here. Romans 5:8 But God gives proof of His love to us in Christ's dying for us while we were still sinners. contrasting us when we were still sinners then to now. Gal 2:17 But if seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also were found to be sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? Let it not be! Not a sinner here. 1Tim 1:9a Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, Hmmm, few verses before he called himself a sinner. 1Peter 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Sinner compared with the ungodly.

No one deserves grace, however, once one already has recieved the grace of salvation there is no more deserving of that punishment which is death and not hell. You are mistaken that penalty of sin is hell, however, the penalty of sin is spiritual death(Rom 6:23), the penalty of sin is not ''to suffer an eternal punishment''. The only reason That the damned suffer an eternal punishment is because they die without Eternal Life. If one has Eternal Life after one dies physicaly, he comes into the presence of God, then to die physicaly without Eternal Life(spiritual death) is eternal punishment. If one does not stay in the presence of Christ, there is no other place to be but in outer darkness where there is nashing of teeth. If I have Eternal life already and Christ has my sins covered, They are not put on my account, I remain inocent and no deserving of death anymore. We are not sinners. Sinners are the ones who still practices sin.

No I am saying that I am no longer accountible for my sins, I am only accountible to God. Rom 4:8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. In other words, My sins are no longer accounted to my charge, therefore no deserving hell. If there remains a desert, then the atonement is not complete.

The Bible says, "He can command the sun not to rise" (Job 9:7)rather than, "He can command the earth to stop moving." Make a doctrint that the sun moves and not the Earth. That God would direct His command at the sun rather than the earth, that implied the sun moves and not the Earth. "The sun rises and the sun sets; And hastening to its place it rises there again." (Eccles. 1:5) Verses that spoke of the "rising" and "setting" of the sun, "hastening to its place" so that it may "rise there again," is not so easy to explain away. Why don't you make a daoctrin that the sun moved daily around the earth and not the Earth rotataing? . Compare Psalm 19:4-6 "In [the heavens] He has placed a tent for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; it rejoices like a strong man to run its course, its rising from one end of the heavens, and its circuit to the other end of them." Surly you can't ignore these. GO make a doctrin that the sum moves around the Earth and not the Earth rotataing. You have plenty of Scriptural backing: The sun stood still, but it don't say that the Earth stood still. The only thing we received though Adam is Physical death. So you would say that the soul of an embrio that is miscarried would go to hell. Or an aborted baby for that matter. what does that verse I gave mean? Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin If these are correct, where is the christian's guilt that you say we still have in which we still desrve hell?

I did not mean that he wasn't lamenting his own wicked ness, but I was telling you that you can not make a doctrine out of what he said. Does hyssop take our sin away? does it make us cleane?(Psa 51:7) Isa 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. Only God know the exact age for each child. Mently ill and the elderly are not the same, I will not get into that subject on this thread. When making statements like this, youneed to back them up with scripture. No: Rom 1:18-20 for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness (they know the truth but suppress it); : 19 because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has showed it to them. : 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Rom 2:14, 15 The Gentiles do not have the Law; but whenever they do by instinct what the Law commands, they are their own law, even though they do not have the Law. : 15 Their conduct shows that what the Law commands is written in their hearts. Their consciences also show that this is true, since their thoughts sometimes accuse them and sometimes defend them. I am saying that an infant or a newborn just out of the womb can not know God and can not be put under the same assessment as the mature for it can not comprehend and therfore can not have a nature against God nor for God. 1: Is it natural for a newborn to rebel? What law do the know? what is the newborns motive? 2: Can a babe just out of the womb have sinfull thoughts? 3: What law do they know in their hearts yet to rebel agains? 4: What is their guilt since they are not even ignorant of a law, but unable to be put under a law? 5: Why would God, with such a great love for His creation, condemn it with Adam's sin when it has not yet sinned? Since God loves His creation so much, why would He impose a nature on it againt it's will and/or charge it with an indictment or a responsibility of sin before they are even born which they don't deserve and one of wich HE hates? If I still deserv wrath, than you are saying that Jesus didn't take the place of wrarth on my part. If you already have, please restate it, I missed it and can not find. Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? The answer would be NO! Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Why does God take no pleasure in the death of the wicked? He loves them, but not what they do. I know that the Bible says thay God hates the wicked, however, He loves them as His creation. Think of Jeramiah. He weeped at God's judgments. He was represeanting God's heart. You may say that God weep when He judges. I do believe that Jesus is God! However, the sinners can not call God thiere Father. That is the relaitionship I am speeking of.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me. Iniquity is the consequence of sin. David is simply stating that the world is full of sin, he didn't say that he was "brought forth with iniquity. He did not say that he was conceived with sin. Lamentations 5:7 Our fathers sinned and are no more, But we bear their iniquities There are circumsatances to sinnes that one must bear, these is this verse relate to the circumsatances of their fathers sins, not the judgment of guilt. Leviticus 26:39 And those of you who are left shall waste away in their iniquity in your enemies

Sin is an act and also of the will. You only think that because you say that sin is more than an act or of the will. Furthermore, you must be missunderstanding the Scriptures to think it. We are sinners because that is what we do, sin. We are human, not sinners in the way you imply. I've grown in my views for 20 years, they have changed and mutured and I am still growing and learning. I will be persuaded of the truth, will you? On the contrary, God only demands from us what He will enable us to do. HE demands nothing that we are incapable to do. He will always give the help for what He commands. No, because He has made away for all to comply with His demands and we stand condemned and deservedly so, only because we do not repent and be saved from His wrath. However, I do not deserve His wrath because of His blood, Amen! Do not throw away relationship! Why do we call HIM Father? The relationship is what saves us, read John 17:3.

What does a child prior to the age of reasoning need saved from? The child would go to heaven because it had not yet sinned, no inconsistency there. Children prior to the age of reasoning are saved not by virtue of their parents' faith, but by virtue of inocence. On the contrary, I have learnd that Calvinism makes God out to be a tyrant that make demands without providing away to comply. The demand to repent with out giving the faith or the so called regeneration to even repent. I have a view that makes Man responsible for being thrown to hell while Calvinism, on the other hand, makes God to be pre-damning people before the foundation of the world which makes hell not only made for the devil and his angles only, but also for man. Do you even know what atonement is? Yes! How eles would one say to sinners while preaching to them, "repent for Christ died for your sinns that you might be saved from God's wrath." God will punish that man for his sins if that man does not take advantage of Christ's sacrifice. Quit deminishing the Atonement! Atonement is not only effectual after one believes. You make the atonement of Christ a potential work instead of an active work. You make the atonement of Christ exclusive and not inclusive. The work of Christ on His cross makes away for salvation while the salvation it's self comes from the relationship one has with Him and not just in what he did on the cross.

Just a thought here, that sin in the members which Paul talks about in Romans 7:5,23; think of it as an addiction, not a disease. One brings on an addiction on hmself, each person brings on his own addictions on hmself from the first sin that one committs after he is accountble for it and by the many other sins that follow. Smoking, for instance, I know how dificult it is to quit, sin in 101 time more addictive. The children of Israel longed fot the things back in their bondage: Num 11:5 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Egypt freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlick: So it is with man: Romans 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves as slaves for obedience, you are slaves to whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or obedience to righteousness? Romans 7:14 For we know that the requirements(law) are spiritual, but I am soulish, living after the flesh, having been sold into slavery under the domination of my own inclinations to rebel(sin). & Romans 7:23 But then, I see different set of requirements(law), and they are in my members, warring against the standard of my moral conscience(law of my mind), and bringing me into captivity to those requirements of my own fleshly desires(law of sin) which are in my members. We can not escapet into freedom axcept by Chrsit. Once saved, we are free, but we still remember the pesures of our old life of sin, that is why christians still sin from time to time. Christians sin, being decieved into thinking that it will give them plesure that they remeber from sin, but in reality christians hate sin.

"If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is couching at the door; its desire is for you, but you must master it." (Gen. 4:7) This is a very clear indication that Cain's sin indwelt him, waiting for him, even desiring him to commit evil. This is further evidenced by Paul's statements in Romans 7:8-11 In the Hebrew language, according to Strongs, in Gen. 4:7, sin is Chatta'ah. It literally means "sin. the condition of sin. It is the noun form of Chata', that is, "To sin. To miss the way, go wrong, incur guilt, forfeit..." So God's telling Cain that "sin crouches at the door" meant that sin was a thing waiting to seize the opportunity to cause Cain to sin (verb). What was it that caused Cain to conceive murder in his heart? It was nothing less than his anger and jealousy of his brother. Yet another indication of sin. Where did you get that definition of sin as a "condition"? Strongs Hebrew #2403 chaṭṭâ'âh chaṭṭâ'th khat-taw-aw', khat-tawth' From H2398; an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also (concretely) an offender: - punishment (of sin), purifying (-fication for sin), sin (-ner, offering). Is there any other verses that tell us what sin is beside these? Prov 24:9 The thought of foolishness is sin: Romans 14:23b whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Faith in Christ. James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. 1John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: 1John 3:4b sin is the transgression of the law. The Law shows us the character of Christ. To make sin any other thing than an action is not correct. One may personify an action, or an attitude but it is not to be taken litraly as an entity. You have read Romans 7, I seen you post it. Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. Rom 7:15-16 :15 For what I work out, I do not know. For what I do not will, this I do. But what I hate, this I do. :16 But if I do what I do not will, I agree with the Law, that it is good. In other words: 8 My inclination against the requirements took advantage of that specific requirement, in that I found away to rebel, and it produced in me all kinds of evil desires. 15 I don't understand what I'm doing. I habitually don't do what I prefer to do, because I habitually do what I hate 16 But if I do what I don't prefer, I am actually agreeing with the requirements that they are good. As I've shown you, that "something deeper" is not knowing Christ. Why and how do you reject this? Jesus is the Law, how would anyone abide by the Law if one does not know it? If one does not know the law, one will break it. If one does not love the law, one will love his own way instead(selfishness). Sin can not be the cause of it's self, that is what you just said. Rom 8:3 For the Law being powerless, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, condemned sin in the flesh, sinful flesh = Flesh with the ability to sin That is where you are messing up. No one "has sin" as sin being a nature. One may have wrong desires that are sinful. If I have sin, it is my sympathy for doing the acts of sin. I used to have sin which was smoking pot. Show me Scripture where on "has sin" Duh. No, makes you a barker. No, makes you a lunatic. But I get what you mean, it would make you an actor. A dog barks because that is all he can do. A man that does not know Christ, sin is all he can do. How is it that if a man does not know Christ that his narue is something eles that what it is after he knows Christ.

One sins because he has sin.Sin is not to be had, but to be done. Calvinism/Arminianism has some things to in common with this thread. That sin within Paul was his own rebelion against the law. Romans 14:23b whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Faith in Christ. 1John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: 1John 3:4b sin is the transgression of the law. The Law shows us the character of Christ. Selfishness is not a sin but a cause of sin. Romans 11:16b and if the root be holy, so are the branches. John 15:4b As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. Selfishness is a part of the root, not of the fruit. To know Christ is to love Him. To know Him, your effections are toward Him. When one does not know Christ, ones effections are towards ones own self, therfore selfish Christ is the Root and the Vine of the one who has Eternal Life. One who does not have Christ, has himself as the root therefore, the only fruit is from selfishness of which his desires are towards. An apple tree does not have an "apple nature", it has a "tree nature"; apples are the fruit and not to desribe its nature it describes what it is. Unsaved man sins(his fruit) therefore, unsaved man is described as sinfull. So also man does not have a "sin nature" he has a "human nature"; sin is the fruit and not to desribe his nature. Tree = tree nature, trees bear fruit: Fruit = apple - Apple tree Human = human nature, men bear fruit: Fruit = sin - sinner To call human nature "sin nature' is as rediculous as to call a womans nature an "embrio nature", a "fetus nature", "baby nature", all because a woman bears fruit from her womb. furthermore, man always do the things that I will list that could be called our nature according to your logic: we would have a burping nature, a pooping nature, a fatring nature, sneezing nature, booger/snot nature. My point is that the rediculousness of calling our naure a "sin nature". The nature of man or tree is grow, and bear fruit, weather good or bad. If the root is bad the fruit will be bad. If man is not grafted into Christ, the only fruit one can have is sin. The nature of eather saved or unsaved is Human Nature that bears fruit good or bad. Then don't twist it to conform to your doctrine.

Si is not a substance to be infused. One only sins because they don't know the Law Maker who enables them to not sin. The inclination of our will effects individual choices that we make. The choice that you make will naturally follow your inclination. Consequently, if you love yourself or the world more than the one commanding you, you cannot consistently do things that please the commander. Your decisions are in bondage to your effections and inclinations so that you only do what you have favor towards. Love God, hate sin; Love yourself and the world, hate God. Sin is the fruit of an object, therefore, It is not correctly called a sin nature. It is called a selfish nature be cause selfishness is all unregenerated man knows; sin is the fruit of mans knowlege. Nature is described by its root cause, not by its fruit. An Apple tree does not have a nature called an apple bearing nature, it has a fruit tree nature, because that is all it knows; to bear fruit. Gen 3:21 is Adam recieving spirituallife again. Why didn't we "inherit" that? Nothing upsets me more that a christian twisting scripture to fit there biased doctrine. It is not, "In Adam all have died" 1Corinth 15:22 For as in Adam all die... If we are born spiritualy dead, the verse would say, "In Adam all have died" or "In Adam all are dead" However, this vires tells us that if you remain in Adam, you will die. We know this because of the previous verse: 1Corinth 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. If Jesus resurrection of the dead is physical, then the death that we inherit is physical.

The burden of proof is on you. Please, lay some Scripture to suport your view. My proof is that Roamns 5:12-21 shows that physical death was passed, not sin. Furthermore, Why would Jesus say that one must become like a little child if children are as depraved and corrupt as the mature? Matthew 18:3 And He said, Truly I say to you, Unless you convert and become as the little children, not at all can you enter into the kingdom of Heaven. Mark 10:15 Truly I say to you, Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a child may not enter into it, never. & Luk 18:17 How should we be as a little child? Physical death is the result of Adam's sin on us. Spiritual death is the result of our own sin.

There is no inherited "sin nature", because the sin of Adam was not passed on to all of his offspring. The fact is, only physical death was passed to all( Romans 5:12) If we are born spritualy dead, then the verse would say in "Adam all are dead", but the verse says 1Corinth 15:22 in Adam all die... Man is born inocent and spiritualy alive, man dies spiritualy with his first sin after the age of accountability. Spiritual death comes with the first sin and that hich Romans 7 talks about becomes active. A child could not live a sinnless life after the age of accountability without knowing knowing Jesus, the only true God, whom He has sent(john 17:3) There is no "Sin nature", the reason man sins is because of temptaion(not a sin nature) and it is only human nature that does not know Christ.

Rome that is to come back. Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he comes, he must continue a short while. 1. Egypt (1600-1200 BC), 2. Assyria (900-600 BC), 3. Babylon (606-536 BC) which is the lion Dan 7:4 4. Medo-Persia (536-330 BC) which is the bear Dan 7:5 5. Greece (330-146 BC) which is the 4-Headed leopard Dan 7:6 6. Rome (200 BC-400 AD), 7. Rome. Dan 7:7 the world will come back to the Roman type of Government. Diolectic, You have much of the truth, but the seventh head is the Anglo-American world power. This head is ruling now, and will be ruling at the time when God sends His son to earth to destroy all the nations and set up the Hevenly Kingdom that Jesus told his disciples to pray for, and Christians have been praying for for two thousand years, Matt 6:9,10, Dan 2:44. Look at the EU(European Union) That is nothing but the Roman type of Government comming back. If you look at the Roman Empire map, it looks quite the same as the spread of the EU.

Rome that is to come back. Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he comes, he must continue a short while. 1. Egypt (1600-1200 BC), 2. Assyria (900-600 BC), 3. Babylon (606-536 BC) which is the lion Dan 7:4 4. Medo-Persia (536-330 BC) which is the bear Dan 7:5 5. Greece (330-146 BC) which is the 4-Headed leopard Dan 7:6 6. Rome (200 BC-400 AD), 7. Rome. Dan 7:7 the world will come back to the Roman type of Government.

Jacob Prasch has been coming to my church twice a year for the last 10 years or so. He is a good speaker. That is how I know the word Moriel.

To understand how the sacrifice of Jesus satisfies God, we must know what God says. God uses His law of death on the account of sin to implement the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. God says, in Romans 6:23a for the wages of sin is death. and Deut.21:23 His body shall not remain overnight on the tree (cross), but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who hangs on a tree is accursed of God. Jesus was taken off the cross that same day He died so the curse of sin would stay on Him. God also uses these laws: Lev.17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the alter to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul. Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:22 For without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin. When Jesus shed His blood on the cross which is Gods