MightyIsTheLord

Thanks everyone for your replies. Elder Evans said that they do believe that Jesus is God (and the trinity, that the Father and the Son have separate bodies/physical entities and the holy spirit is just a spirit, if he had a physical presence he wouldn't be able to come into our hearts). That Jesus was born of a virgin birth. And these websites what describe alot of things are filled with lies. If you guys could stop posting the links to these websites that'd be great because they are full of lies/attacks on the latter day saints church. Our conversation tonight (and the lies posted on these websites by people who really don't like the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints) has furthered my belief that the latter day saints church is indeed the restored church of Jesus Christ, the son of God. I hope you guys won't outcast me for my new beliefs.

Thanks all for your replies. I've got a lot of questions for the elders now. At the end of the day, all i want to do is to find truth and if there is any chance at all that joseph smith was a prophet from God then i want to explore it. Please pray that God reveals to me whether or not Joseph Smith was a prophet or not and which path i should follow. I've backslidden hundreds of times but i want to have an intimate eternal relationship with our Lord and i'll explore every route until God tells me "This is it, this is what i want you to follow, this is the truth". I believe that the bible from genesis to revelations is the word of God, no doubt, im a bit unsure now about the mormon books after what you have said, i'll look further into the matter, do some research and pray. And ask for answers to all these interesting arguments from the elders.

Ok well Elder Evans and Elder Granger are coming to my house again tonight i will ask them then. I've already got some good questions to ask them. And i pray that the Almighty Father will lead me to the truth, and reveal to me whether he did indeed make Joseph Smith his prophet. I'll ask the Elders when they arrive about the polygamy.

Hi, thanks for your reply. Well i've not read much of the book of mormon yet but in the church service i attended yesterday they do promote the trinity and the deity of christ. They even finished the prayers in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord. As for the credibility of the book, there are some parts of the book of mormon called "The Testimony of Three Witnesses" and "The Testimony of Eight Witnesses" which see people who have signed the documents, who God allowed to see the golden plates before they were taken up. If it is a false religion, why was i filled with the holy ghost when i went to that church meeting. When i first met Elder Evans, me and my friend were waiting in town, watching them and my mate wanted to go home but i wanted to stay for some reason, so we started talking to them and Elder Evans phoned me up asking if i wanted to attend their church gathering, so i did. After the service i was asked if i wanted to stay for the group discussion on the bible and the book of mormon afterwards, i kind of wanted to go home but for some reason i stayed. I believe that it is true because i wanted to do the opposit of what i did, almost as if the holy spirit was convicting me to stay.

Hi all, i went to a different church gathering yesterday, i was invited by a mormon to attend their church gathering and i went. I have to say the church of the latter day saints is so filled with love and unity i became interested. This elder who's been helping me learn more about it called Elder Evans gave me a copy of the book of mormon. Anyway, i knew it was God who put me in the path of the mormon, he definately wanted me to attend that church (Well it wasn't in the church because thats only just bin completed, goin to the proper one next week), when i was there i felt the holy ghost from head to toe, there all such loving caring people. I've decided to join the church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints. I believe that Jesus Christ did visit America shortly after his ressurection. I mean, the book of mormon has characteristics of other books from prophets found in the holy bible. E.g. prophecies, similar subjects. The book of mormon even prophecied about the civil war in america between the northern and southern states. Anyhow, I just wanted to ask what you guys think of the book of mormon and the church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. Yesterday was the best church meeting i've ever been to, i mean, we even did bible talks afterwards and discussed the second coming. I've found one thread on worthy that mentions mormons but they seem to put them in a bad light. i mean. why? How do you know that Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet? Thanks. any replies appreciated.

uhmm. no im not..

Thanks all its very clear what i need to do. I prayed for the Lord to show me what to do yesterday then all of you warned against going. Thanks.

Thank you for your replies everyone. I'm considering not going down tommorow. If i don't go down, am i guilty of lying because i told him i would go down to his house tommorow? Also, am i weak of faith for not going down and entrusting my safety to the Lord?

I feel compelled to go their tommorow, all my life i have been running away from bullies and it ends now. He asked of me, so shall i give. I pray that the Lord leads jamie to him. Why should i not go? I will go with faith and receive his punishment, how much more shall he be punished on the most glorious and terrifying day of the Lord? Also if i dont go i'll just be looking over my shoulder for who knows how long, i'd rather get it out of the way so that i can live a paranoia-free life. The Lord is good, if it his will that harm comes my way tommorow then let it be so, for everything that is something is something because the Lord willed it to be. All the glory be to God forever and ever. AMEN!! edit: just had to correct something.

Whatever he does tommorow, i pray that the Lord forgives him for i already have. He asked me to go down tommorow and i said i would, i knew why he wanted me to go down when i said that i would. Luke 6:30-31: " Give to everyone who asks of you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. " The Lord Jesus loves everyone, so should we. The Lord gave to everyone who asked, so should we. No matter what, i will always love him for the Lord loves him and we must follow the Lord in everything he does, no matter what the cost.

You can care about your friend and pray for him - but really - he's not much of a friend to do what he does to you. The lying, the threatening to "do you in", etc. You deserve better friends -ok? I'm not an expert on scripture, nor am i a smart person, nor a popular person, i dont know alot about anything really but one thing i do know is that our God is a god of love and that love is the most imporant thing here. Jamie is my friend, he can take everything from me, even my life and still i will love him for God is love and jamie is one of his creations. All that is important to me is that i follow Jesus in everything i do, i will love my neighbour and my persecutors, i will pray for them, even help them if they ask it of me. I dont care what happens to my body, just as long as while in my body, i did everything i could to serve the Lord.

Thank you all for your replies. The best thing to come out of this situation is that my faith has grown and i have become closer to the Lord. I was just speaking to my friends now ex-girlfriend on the phone, aparently hes aranging some guys to come down tommorow to "do-me-in". I'm going to go, hes still my friend, whatever happens tommorow, please pray that i keep my faith and love above all else.

They've broken up, she believed me in the end. I'm goin down to jamies house tommorow to get the crap kicked out of me, he told me that he still wants to be my friend but i've got to pay for what i've done. I've already forgiven him for what hes going to do tommorow so no worries there. Jamie believes that aliens created this world, that we once lived on mars destroyed the atmosphere and we moved to this planet, that the earth has always been here, he believes in evolution and the big bang theory. everytime i talk to him about it we'll break into some sort of debate, even if i win the debate he never accepts that God exists. He does believe in the devil though, he thinks that hell is like one big party with alcohol and cannabis and loud rock music, i've told him that hes wrong but he doesn't believe me.

Thanks for your reply. My friend is going to kick the crap out of me tommorow and im prepared for it, i was more frightened that i was guilty of not loving my neighbour and betraying him though.

My friend Jamie is what many people would refer to as a 'player'. He likes to pick up women and sleep with them, then never call them back or anything. Anyway, he told me hes been seeing this girl over the internet who lives quite close to where we live and hes goin to meet up with her soon. We were talkin to her today on the internet and on the phone. my friend was lying over and over to try and get this girl to sleep with him. Anyway earlier she sent me a message on this social networking site called netlog and told me she thinks that my friend is messing her about and i told her the truth. Was this the right thing to do, i feel bad for betraying my friend. By doing this have i shown that i do not love my friend and thus i have not been made perfect in love? I felt compelled to tell the truth because even though he is my friend i cant stand that he is deceiving someone for his own gain. Any advice appreciated thanks. Edit: just got a message from my friends girlfriend, my friend has told her that im lying.

I cant remember where i heard it, i think it was in a video or an article online somewhere what said something along the lines of: "Being rich isn't a sin, and theres nothing wrong with being rich just as long as you put the Lord before it". Jesus should come first before anything else in our lives. You could always donate money to a missionary of some sort to help spread the word of the Lord.

I've backslid so, so many times, so many times infact i've lost count. Yet the last time i came back to him, he forgave me, he broke my heart and made it well again. Praise be to God who never forgets any of his creations, his children. His love is with each one of us, we just have to reach out and grab it. If i were to take a guess, i'd say satan or one of his demons have tried to make you doubt yourself and God, you see, if he does this then you start to question like you have, pray that the Lord keeps you strong and defends you against the works of the enemy.

Your all right.. i cant believe im so weak. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry for even starting this thread. I've learned that we have to be on our guard 24/7 because if we let our guard down even for a moment we give satan an opportuanity. Thanks for everyones replies. Jesus is my Lord and Savior and his sacrifice was not in vein, i wont let his sacrifice pass me by. Hope you enjoyed the ride satan because im kicking you out.

Ever since i watched that beheading video, my faith has gone, a great sense of fear and confusion has swept over me like a tidal wave, i feel very pessimistic. I can't laugh, nothing is funny anymore. Things i enjoyed before i watched that video i cant be bothered to watch because there so boring. And if im not much mistaken i feel a tad of depression coming on. I just did that deathclock thing (deathclock.com) input all my details and according to that my rough year of death is 2043 which means i will be 53 when i die (oh joy cant wait hope its not by beheading). I feel nothing. I feel completely empty. My spirit is dead. And the so called Word of God is full of so much ****** i dont know what to believe. One thing is a metaphore another thing is literal its like God gave us a map and took away our eye sight. I know what your thinking, your going to reply saying "Pray for understanding".. Well i have, and it never works. What if im wrong, what if your wrong, what if there is no God.

that video has led to me just about losing my faith. I'm not praying anymore and when i look at scripture it looks like way too many words for me to read. I've not read most of the posts in this thread after a sentance or two because geese, whats with all the long posts no one can read that much. I feel spiritually dead.

If i ever get captured by islamic extremists and they tell me that there going to behead me with a small blunt instrument, i will bang my head against a wall until i die or pass out. I couldn't go through that, i couldn't have faith enough to bear a knife going through my neck.

well the website is run by people who claim to be christian, they say there using the terrorist properganda which is normally used to scare people and using it to show people the truth.

I know this website that has videos of radical islamist movements executing people, i could only watch 1 video (i've seen it before) but this time, like last time really freaked me out. I saw a man get his head cut off with a knife and it wasn't a quick death, i could see inside of his neck and all his blood gushing out. I'll remember the mans face for the rest of my life. How can i forget this, this has really got to me, i dont think i'll ever forget it. The only thing i gained from watching this was a great fear of muslims.

Yeah. I'm not saying that doing good deeds is wrong but that doing good deeds doesn't provide salvation. Jesus said love God and your neighbour. Doing anything but good deeds to your neighbour would suggest your not following the second most important commandment (after love God). But i understand what your saying.

yeah i guess your right. It sounded good in my head when i decided to post it but what do i know im just a human. Thanks for your replies everybody.