hereami

Why do some people find it necessary to attack the KJV Bible? I give people information in regards to new 'versions' so they can make an informed choice, but do not call them names. hereami http://www.biblebelievers.com/Grady/Final_Authority.html

Me too! I've done a lot of reading the last couple of years, starting with Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. Have you read "Final Authority" by Dr. William P. Grady? It's an extensively/exhaustively researched reference work that is not beyond the reading abilities of some of us... I've also 'dipped' into works by Rice, Schaeffer, Riplinger, Strobel and Ruckman. I don't agree with all I've read, but I've found that it has helped me to understand better the origins and the doctrine of my faith. Reading the message boards has been 'interesting' as well... Keep posting, all! Some of us are really enjoying the exchanges. heremi (who is also reading through the Bible again)

::jumping right into the fray:: OK, according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Jesus refers to Peter as 'Peter' in two places, Matthew 16:18 and Luke 22:34. Curious about how many times Jesus referred to Peter as 'Simon', I investigated further and found 8 instances: Matthew 16:17, 17:25 Mark 14:37 John 1:42, 21:15, 21:16, 21:17 Luke 7:40 hereami Isaiah 6:8

>>My aim is not to discredit Jesus rather like I said before Jesus spoke the truth. The Bible writers did not. As we can see Jesus said one thing but what was recorded is another. I will explain my reasoning.<< OK, why does this person quote from the Bible to prove his point, but discredit those who 'wrote' it? How does he know what Jesus said if he discredits those who 'wrote' the Bible and therefore the 'words' of Jesus? Circular reasoning...?? If what is in the Bible is accurate, then we have to accept what Jesus said, which included his claims of deity and his own prophecies of his death and resurrection: Matthew 12:8, 40; 16:15-19; 17:9, 22, 23; 19:28; 20:18, 19; 20:28; 23:34; 24:30, 31; 26:2, 12, 32, 64 Of course, that's just from Matthew... >>Please produce your proof if are speaking the truth. Have a look at what the more respected men of Christianity have to say about there own faith. "More than half of England's Anglican Bishops say that Christians are not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to a survey published today. The pole of 31 of England's 39 bishops shows that many of them think that Christ's miracles, the virgin birth and the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the Bible".<< Acts 10:34 "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" 2Corinthians 11:13 "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ." Galatians 1:7, 8 "Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." I don't accept the ideas/words of men, just the word of God. The pharisees were 'respected' men at the time of Jesus' ministry. (see also Matthew 5:19, 20; 23; Luke 11:39-52; 12:1a-2; 16:15; 18:10-14; 20:46, 47...just to name a few) hereami 1Timothy 1:4 "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."

Thanks for the sites! Here are a few that I like to visit/use: Ravi Zacharias Ministries http://www.gospelcom.net/rzim/ Christian Law Association http://www.christianlaw.org/about.html Creation Science Evangelism http://www.drdino.com/ Prison Fellowship Ministries http://www.breakpoint.org Anyone else have favorite sites to share? hereami