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    Adopted children

    in Theology

    Posted

    We who have placed our faith in JESUS are the children of the most high GOD. As HIS children, we are guaranteed a position in HIS house. No matter what we do, we will never be separated from HIM. HE chose us from the beginning and HE will not un-choose us.

    What if one were to fall back into a life of willful sin?

    Can a person be un-born?

    Click on the ball

    in Fellowship Hall

    Posted

    Yeah, I succeeded to click on it eight times and realized every time the ball gets smaller. By the eight time it is a very tiny ball and I could not click on it for a ninth time!

    It was fun though. It's a good stress reliever while at work!

    Thanks for sharing! :emot-hug:

    Stress RELIEVER?

    LOL!!

    My thoughts exactly! :P

    The window through which we look

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    A young couple moves into a new neighborhood.

    The next morning while they are eating breakfast, the young

    woman sees her neighbor hanging the wash outside.

    'That laundry is not very clean', she said.

    'She doesn't know how to wash correctly.

    Perhaps she needs better laundry soap'

    Her husband looked on, but remained silent.

    Every time her neighbor would hang her wash to dry, the

    young woman would make the same comments.

    About one month later, the woman was surprised to see a

    nice clean wash on the line and said to her husband:

    'Look, she has learned how to wash correctly.

    I wonder who taught her this?'

    The husband said, 'I got up early this morning and

    cleaned our windows.

    And so it is with life. What we see when watching others

    depends on the purity of the window through which we look.

    must be baptised with water or in water

    in Theology

    Posted

    So yes baptism is necessary for salvation.

    Jeremiah

    If baptism is necessary for salvation then why did Jesus tell the thief on the cross, "THIS day you will be with me in paradise"? Did Jesus lie to the thief? Or did the Roman soldiers take him down and baptism him and then put him back on the cross? Come on...plenty of people throughout history have made "death bed" professions of faith. Are they not saved?

    Did Jesus HAVE to be baptized? Of course not. It was a symbolic representation of his death, burial and resurrection. Jesus did all that was necessary for salvation on the cross. We cannot add to it. We can however follow they example he set by being baptized as our first act of obedience to show our death, burial and resurrection to a new life in Christ.

    Hi Glory,

    I think it might be helpful to look at what happened when Christ was baptized.

    15Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented.

    16As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. 17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

    Certainly to have these things happen with the Baptism of Christ, one must come to some sort of conclusion that Baptism is real and tangible, not simply an outward deed or some sort of symbol that we perform. The Holy Spirit is real and tangible.

    That is just my take and I do agree that Jesus did not "need" baptism in order to be saved or any such strangeness as that, but that He showed us right here what Baptism is.

    I do not believe that you MUST be baptized to be saved as faith alone in Christ saves us; however no Christian who does have faith will deny baptism if they at all have the chance to be baptized. The thief on the cross if he could jump down after being saved would have wanted to be baptized.

    Anyway that is my take and what my congregation teaches (plus a whole bunch of other stuff to long winded to get into here), but it is a contentious issue and has been for 500 years.

    Smalclad, I agree. Basically my questions were rhetorical.

    must be baptised with water or in water

    in Theology

    Posted

    Glorywatch:

    So yes baptism is necessary for salvation.

    Jeremiah

    If baptism is necessary for salvation then why did Jesus tell the thief on the cross, "THIS day you will be with me in paradise"? Did Jesus lie to the thief? Or did the Roman soldiers take him down and baptism him and then put him back on the cross? Come on...plenty of people throughout history have made "death bed" professions of faith. Are they not saved?

    Did Jesus HAVE to be baptized? Of course not. It was a symbolic representation of his death, burial and resurrection. Jesus did all that was necessary for salvation on the cross. We cannot add to it. We can however follow they example he set by being baptized as our first act of obedience to show our death, burial and resurrection to a new life in Christ.

    The thief on the cross was told this day (that very day) you will be with me in paradise.

    The question then is, where did Jesus go that very day?... Heaven, or the grave for three days? The thief on the cross died under O.T. not the N.T.. Paradise is a term used by the Jews as a part of Hades (hell/grave), where the souls wait for the resurrection. Some may say it refers to heaven.... which is impossible because Jesus did not go to heaven that very day, but the grave for three days and three nights. Death bed confessions??? I see no death bed confessions in the book of Acts, or no Apostle leading a person in a sinners prayer for salvation, or any confession (i.e. words) then declaring a that a person has been granted repentance unto life... they always did something (according to what the Word said)

    Saved is a very distorted term used within the religious circles.

    YES JESUS DID HAVE TO BE BAPTIZED!!!!! It fulfilled all righteousness. Jesus himself said so. (Matt 3:13-17) We also are buried with him "BY BATISM" into death, that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life (Rm 6:1-7). Baptism is the New Testament circumsission (Col 2:10-14)

    Did not Jesus speak "Except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God"........????

    Jeremiah

    Jeremiah, Jesus told the thief, in essence, that he was saved by his faith, baptism or not. Where he (the theif) literally went that day, I don't know and neither do you, but I do know that he was saved by his faith.

    I was not implying there were death bed confessions of faith in Acts. But I do know of people who were dying who were witnessed to and who acknowledged they need a Savior and then died within days of acknowledgeing Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Not being able to be baptised does not make their faith any less real than those who are able. God will save whom HE will save. Scripture tells us that the OT saints were saved by faith.

    I was not asking if Jesus had to be baptised to fulfill his ministry I was asking did he have to be baptized for salvation and the answer is NO.

    Yes Jesus said, Except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Who is the LIVING WATER? JESUS. If we are not born of the LIVING WATER and of THE HOLY SPIRIT then we are not saved by our faith.

    As for as the word 'Saved" being a distorted term, you might want to check out how many times its used in Scripture starting in Genesis 47:25 and ending in Revelation 21:24. The word saved is used in 33 different books of the Bible so I am not sure what you mean about it being a distorted term. God didn't think it was so distorted.

    'Why Believe in a God?'

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    It really shouldn't surprise anyone. America has been systematically removing God from everything for years and the sad thing is no one is stopping them. We allowed prayer to be taken out of school and look at the kids of today. We allowed prayer to be stopped in most assemblies as not to 'force God" on anyone and look at society today. We allowed abortions, gay rights and rights for criminials and look at the society we have today. We as a nation glorify bad behavior and don't call sin "sin" because it's not politically correct. We should be worried about being morally right, not politically correct. This is just one more step toward total rejection of God in this country and until the church (the body of Christ) is willing to get on their knees and praying for divine intervention can we really be surprised by this.

    In Whose Hands

    in Absolutely Positive!

    Posted

    I am not sure if this is the right forum but someone shared this with me and I thought it was worth sharing here.

    A basketball in my hands is worth about $19.

    A basketball in Michael Jordan's hands is worth about $33 million.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    A baseball in my hands is worth about $6.

    A baseball in Mark Mcguire's hands is worth $19 million.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    A tennis racket is useless in my hands.

    A tennis racket in Pete Sampras' hands is a Wimbledon Championship.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    A rod in my hands will keep away a wild animal.

    A rod in Moses' hands will part the mighty sea.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    A sling shot in my hands is a kid's toy.

    A sling shot in David's hand is a mighty weapon.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    Two fish and 5 loaves of bread in my hands is a couple of fish sandwiches.

    Two fish and 5 loaves of bread in God's hands will feed thousands.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    Nails in my hands might produce a birdhouse.

    Nails in Jesus Christ's hands will produce salvation for the entire world.

    It depends whose hands it's in.

    As you see now it depends whose hands it's in.

    So we can put our concerns, our worries, our fears, our hopes, our dreams, our families, and our relationships in God's hands because --

    It depends whose hands they're in.

    must be baptised with water or in water

    in Theology

    Posted

    So yes baptism is necessary for salvation.

    Jeremiah

    If baptism is necessary for salvation then why did Jesus tell the thief on the cross, "THIS day you will be with me in paradise"? Did Jesus lie to the thief? Or did the Roman soldiers take him down and baptism him and then put him back on the cross? Come on...plenty of people throughout history have made "death bed" professions of faith. Are they not saved?

    Did Jesus HAVE to be baptized? Of course not. It was a symbolic representation of his death, burial and resurrection. Jesus did all that was necessary for salvation on the cross. We cannot add to it. We can however follow they example he set by being baptized as our first act of obedience to show our death, burial and resurrection to a new life in Christ.

    Cyberattack by foreign entity

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Well this will make you sit up and take notice.

    The computer systems of both the Obama and McCain campaigns were victims of a sophisticated cyberattack by an unknown "foreign entity," prompting a federal investigation, NEWSWEEK reports today.

    At the Obama headquarters in midsummer, technology experts detected what they initially thought was a computer virus

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