kross -
I am not obi-wan, but ...
I too would like to know who these 144,000 are,
but whether physical or spiritual descendants of Abraham,
*why* are the twelve tribes in Rev different from the original twelve tribes ?
And does this help us determine if they are physical or spiritual descendants ... ?
P.S. -
How come every time I sign my name, it is replaced with a smiley face ... ?
I think your name is code for "really strange face"
I am a believer that the 144,000 are physical, members of the tribe of Israel who will be kept pure by GOD.
I lean that way too, but not becuase I think the Church is already gone.
Any thoughts on my question about the 12 tribes being different from the 12 sons of Abraham?
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