Guest LadyC Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 They may still acknowledge that at on point they were gay. they're claiming they WERE gay. do you not see the difference between someone saying "i was" and someone saying "i am"? a CHRISTIAN does not identify themselves as gay in the present tense. they are either a new creature in Christ or they aren't. i can't say it any more clearly than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted April 29, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted April 29, 2010 They may still acknowledge that at on point they were gay. they're claiming they WERE gay. do you not see the difference between someone saying "i was" and someone saying "i am"? a CHRISTIAN does not identify themselves as gay in the present tense. they are either a new creature in Christ or they aren't. i can't say it any more clearly than that. My point exactly. If you are still gay after being reborn you were never reborn. I mean after all doesn't being reborn mean a new start with all of your sins wiped away and thrown into the sea of forgetfulness by God? I am no longer an alcoholic I am now a reborn child of God. The old life has passed away and a new life has begun. But how can I begin a new life as long as I am holding onto the old life? Being gay is a rebellion against God like all other sinful lifestyles so why would any one want continue to claim the title that speaks of open rebellion against God if they are trying to move on? The answer is that they are trying to justify being gay and being a Christian at the same time as if God says it is a good thing. What a joke, right is wrong and wrong is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted May 1, 2010 The church needs good musicians regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation. Shaking my head in utter complete disgust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 My point exactly. If you are still gay after being reborn you were never reborn. Actually, I see it the way I see other conditions - like depression or being prone to anger or addictions or a habit of gossip or other things. Some people find immediate redemption from these things, others still need to have thee things worked out of them. Being gay is a bondage. To be free from the bondage you first have to recognize that it's a bondage, that it is not of God, that the Lord wants to deliver you from it, that you have to surrender this and whatever is behind it to Him, etc. Just like any other sin habit or attitude. Someone saying, "God made me gay," would be like me saying, "God made me depressed." It's a flat out lie! But it doesn't make me not a Christian to have the problem - it just means there's a stronghold that still needs to be conquered. It is like when Israel conquered Canaan - the land wasn't conquered right away; the people had to fight for it. But they quit before the task was completed. Many Christians do that with their lives. They quit overcoming sin. People like Jennifer are like those that gave up the fight. But the worst part of Israel giving up the fight was when the people of God began worshiping the way the unconquered peoples worshiped their gods. In giving up the fight they began embracing the ways of their enemies. And this is what we are seeing with Christians "coming out of the closet" - they are actually turning to the Baal of Peor without realizing it. It's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted May 1, 2010 The church needs good musicians regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation. Shaking my head in utter complete disgust. I agree BB. The church doesn't need more of that which represents satan in it and a gay Jennifer Knapp is exactly that. A Representative of satan and his evil. CSLewis your statement tells me that you are primed and ready to fall away from Christ. Satan has been successful in turning your head from the word of God and the moral principals of his words. Putting a Jennifer Knapp in the forefront of spiritual warfare and the praise of God is the same as putting satan on the cross to die for your sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 1, 2010 The church needs good musicians regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation. Shaking my head in utter complete disgust. I agree BB. The church doesn't need more of that which represents satan in it and a gay Jennifer Knapp is exactly that. A Representative of satan and his evil. CSLewis your statement tells me that you are primed and ready to fall away from Christ. Satan has been successful in turning your head from the word of God and the moral principals of his words. Putting a Jennifer Knapp in the forefront of spiritual warfare and the praise of God is the same as putting satan on the cross to die for your sins. 2Ti 3:1-9 MKJV 1 Know this also, that in the last days grievous times will be at hand. 2 For men will be self-lovers, money-lovers, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, unyielding, false accusers, without self-control, savage, despisers of good, 4 traitors, reckless, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness, but denying the power of it; even turn away from these. 6 For of these are those who creep into houses and lead captive silly women loaded with sins, led away with different kinds of lusts, 7 ever learning and never able to come to the full knowledge of the truth. 8 But as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so these also resist the truth, men of corrupt mind, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further. For their foolishness shall be plain to all, as theirs also became. Well it makes me think that she has given up on the ability of God to wash justify and sanctify her (1 Cor 6:11) and instead has kept an appearance of Godliness but without the real changing power of God. This really is a sad and heartbreaking illustration of Romans 1 in our modern times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Someone saying, "God made me gay," would be like me saying, "God made me depressed." God made me fat! Now, please excuse me while I choose to eat these 3 triple cheese burgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massorite Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Someone saying, "God made me gay," would be like me saying, "God made me depressed." God made me fat! Now, please excuse me while I choose to eat these 3 triple cheese burgers. Man that sounds like your belly will be full and runneth over with a burger blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyguy Posted May 1, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Someone saying, "God made me gay," would be like me saying, "God made me depressed." God made me fat! Now, please excuse me while I choose to eat these 3 triple cheese burgers. Man that sounds like your belly will be full and runneth over with a burger blessing. And beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 beer can be a blessing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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