nebula Posted February 7, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 7, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldEnglishSheepdog Posted February 8, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 844 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 118 Days Won: 11 Joined: 12/23/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted February 8, 2011 (edited) "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve... as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD" (Joshua 24:15). You need God to have life, "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly" (John 10:10). God came to forgive your sins so that you can be saved (John 3:16-17), and freely gives forgiveness of sins simply for the confession of Him and His work of salvation "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10:9). As for anyone who tells you otherwise, "Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?" (Isaiah 2:22). Any suggestion that your works save you or condemn you is forbidden by God (Galations 1), because"it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9). If you want to avoid judgement, there is only one name by which you can be saved "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12) and Jesus is His name. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9). If not, then we are judged, "Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him" (Hebrews 9:27-28). So you have to ask yourself, "how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation" (Hebrews 2:3)? Edited February 8, 2011 by OldEnglishSheepdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstrats Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 9, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 "But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve... as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD" (Joshua 24:15). You need God to have life, "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly" (John 10:10). God came to forgive your sins so that you can be saved (John 3:16-17), and freely gives forgiveness of sins simply for the confession of Him and His work of salvation "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved" (Romans 10:9). As for anyone who tells you otherwise, "Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?" (Isaiah 2:22). Any suggestion that your works save you or condemn you is forbidden by God (Galations 1), because"it is by grace you have been saved, through faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstrats Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 9, 2011 You are taking my words out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstrats Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 9, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 9, 2011 When I said I have chosen belief, instead of asking me how I did this and under what circumstances this took place, you created your own situation to force me into. Free-will versus victim-will isn't something you can run through a scientific experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstrats Posted February 10, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 423 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/29/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted February 10, 2011 nebula, re: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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