Are Liberals really that bad?

[Truth33]

American liberals may not be "bad" but I think their logic sure is. I don't hate liberals, never have, but I do pretty much despise nearly everything they stand for.

I do not hate liberals because I am friends with some. But I hate what they did in the last election. They put politics before God because they hate republicans so much. I am a republican and I would vote for a democrat for president if he were a christian and followed the Bible. Most liberals will not consider voting for a republican. We all got to see Obama for 4 years and knew what he was about. There is no excuse for voting for him if you are a christian. He laughs at Israel and loves abortion clinics. Now he is for gay marriage and wants big government. He mocked national day of prayer for christians but invited muslims to pray. The media has an agenda to support liberalisim and people need to watch fox news for truth and balanced coverage. Wake up America because we are in the end times season. I still pray for the president and his team to have a change of heart before it is to late for America.

[JustinM]

Perhaps Canadian Liberals are different from American Liberals, I don't know. I do know that many Liberal leaning people I knew in Canada were generous, kind and respectful people. I certainly don't recall any who held any fierce animosity towards Christ and Christianity. Oh sure, there were some who didn't agree with our beliefs, but they understood we had the right to freely express our religion and they didn't give us any grief over it.

Thar she blows! That, is the correct answer...I have usually voted Liberal as a Canadian (also have lived in the US and the DEEP south y'all FL? That's deep)

Liberals of the North and South are not the same beasties. At all.

Some of my best American friends are Liberals to the point they hate Romney....they know I won't bite at the bait but they do try from time to time

It seems that liberalism in the US is heading towards Marxist beliefs faster than my dog eats his supper

Liberals in the US are Democrats as I'm sure you know, but up here, in the land of the red serge clad Mounties, they are, well, just not Conservatives

The thing is that a lot of people I talk to in America consider Canada to be a more oppressive/socialist country than the U.S. is mainly on account of our Universal Health Care and our gun control laws. I haven't done in depth research but I also think freedom of speech isn't as quite iron clad in Canada as it is in America. Also, Canada I would say is somewhat more conservative than Europe, which has its own brand of Liberalism.

I just find it funny that people think the U.S. has become some kind of "Marxist state" when compared to how things are in other countries, it's not even close.

It's not so much that the country is marxist, it's that the federal government and media are functioning and broadcasting as marxists.

[revolutionist90]

I believe the liberal ideology is bad. No offense for those outside of this criteria but most people i know who are liberal are atheistic (militant), very anti-christian to the point of dehumanizing christians, generally believe they are better than others (I met a black liberal who would not talk to southern black people because she felt they were beneath her), and put all of their trust into man. They state they are using logic and reason but from point of view they are just using man's flawed logic and reason. They trust the world's answers to the point of ignoring biblical truths (if they do associate with christianity) and are generally moral relativistic. If they are "christian" then they usually ignore the bible and focus on the world doctrines so there is little separation between the world and their relationship with God so they are of the world. Of course this is not for all liberals since there is a difference between an economic liberal and a social liberal but this is for the ones who I have met. I usually don't agree with either social or economic liberal policies so their ideology is bad. They can still be good people though, of course.

[AmateurPoet03]

I lived in Canada up until I was 26 years old. I lived in a considerably liberal area. There were churches and a Christian presence but nowhere near the level there is down here in the South.

Some liberals are atheists, some are not. Some are members of religions besides Christianity.

In the past little while I've noticed a lot of...frustration shall we say directed towards Liberals by Christian conservatives.

I'm not trying to start a fight over this at all, I'm just curious.

Perhaps Canadian Liberals are different from American Liberals, I don't know. I do know that many Liberal leaning people I knew in Canada were generous, kind and respectful people. I certainly don't recall any who held any fierce animosity towards Christ and Christianity. Oh sure, there were some who didn't agree with our beliefs, but they understood we had the right to freely express our religion and they didn't give us any grief over it.

I find myself frustrated by this polarization that has occurred. It's become an "us vs. them" battle instead of "let's work these issues out and come to a mutual agreement we can both live with."

I mean let's face it. Liberals and Conservatives don't always get it right. There are bad elements on both sides. I don't see "Liberals" as an enemy, I see them the same way I see Buddhists or Sikhs or Environmentalists. They are just a group of people who hold an ideological view that is different from my own. HOWEVER, they should be afforded the same respect and dignity afforded all human beings.

We are ALL God's children. As believers we are called to love everyone, even those who disagree with how we choose to live our lives.

I just don't see us accomplishing much as a nation OR as servants of Christ if we stay locked in an endless partisan battle with the "other side".

There must be something better.

Politics, from what I have seen, tend to bring out the worst in a number of God's children. This is why I refrain from discussing them.

[chance]

I lived in Canada up until I was 26 years old. I lived in a considerably liberal area. There were churches and a Christian presence but nowhere near the level there is down here in the South.

Some liberals are atheists, some are not. Some are members of religions besides Christianity.

In the past little while I've noticed a lot of...frustration shall we say directed towards Liberals by Christian conservatives.

I'm not trying to start a fight over this at all, I'm just curious.

Perhaps Canadian Liberals are different from American Liberals, I don't know. I do know that many Liberal leaning people I knew in Canada were generous, kind and respectful people. I certainly don't recall any who held any fierce animosity towards Christ and Christianity. Oh sure, there were some who didn't agree with our beliefs, but they understood we had the right to freely express our religion and they didn't give us any grief over it.

I find myself frustrated by this polarization that has occurred. It's become an "us vs. them" battle instead of "let's work these issues out and come to a mutual agreement we can both live with."

I mean let's face it. Liberals and Conservatives don't always get it right. There are bad elements on both sides. I don't see "Liberals" as an enemy, I see them the same way I see Buddhists or Sikhs or Environmentalists. They are just a group of people who hold an ideological view that is different from my own. HOWEVER, they should be afforded the same respect and dignity afforded all human beings.

We are ALL God's children. As believers we are called to love everyone, even those who disagree with how we choose to live our lives.

I just don't see us accomplishing much as a nation OR as servants of Christ if we stay locked in an endless partisan battle with the "other side".

There must be something better.

There is something better, obey God rather than man. I know liberals that say they are Christians and vote for people that are pro gay and pro abortion, sorry, that's not walking with Jesus!

[John S]

When it comes to social issues, Jesus Christ was/is a liberal. Is He bad?

[GoldenEagle]

When it comes to social issues, Jesus Christ was/is a liberal. Is He bad?

 

I would likely disagree that Jesus Christ was/is a liberal. I'd say He stood, stands, and will stand for the truth. He is also characterized by perfect love.

It depends on your definition of liberal. How do you define the term liberal?

 

 

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Show Spelled 

adjective

1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

8. open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

 

God bless,

GE

 

[GoldenEagle]

Since we're talking about this I'm curious John S too by your comment

 

A person is either a conservative or he is a Christian. It is IMPOSSIBLE to be both.

I believe a strong case can be made that whether a person is conservative or liberal they can still be a Christ-follower.

 

I personally hold to a more conservative stance on issues as these seem to lign up better with Scripture.

 

Your thoughts?

 

God bless,

GE

[missmuffet]

 

When it comes to social issues, Jesus Christ was/is a liberal. Is He bad?

 

I would likely disagree that Jesus Christ was/is a liberal. I'd say He stood, stands, and will stand for the truth. He is also characterized by perfect love.

It depends on your definition of liberal. How do you define the term liberal?

 

 

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Show Spelled 

adjective

1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

2. ( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.

8. open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.

9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

Yes,if being liberal I take a stand for abortion and for the gay community then I am a very conservative.I do not think Jesus was liberal.

[wonby1]

The term liberal has changed over the years.   It used to be that the term liberal meant the opposite of authoritarianism.  However, today the modern liberal is just the opposite.  Today the modern liberal stands for an all powerful centralized government that will punish you if you don't buy corporate health care.  It is a government who insists on spying on its law abiding citizens while ignoring their Constitutional right to privacy.  It is a government that passes the NDAA, which allows the government to detain you without due process and signed by Obama himself.

 

I think it no small coincidence that the same political ideology that upholds abortion and gay marriage as "OK" is the same one that is destroying the country in every other facet of it's existence.

 

When I read Revelation it is plain where we are all headed.  We are headed towards a system that is so oppressive and centrally controlled, that they will execute you for not taking a mark on the right hand or forehead.