The cause of homosexual behaviour

[Inti]

Inti

WSB does have to substantiate his claim. It's been documented in every major newspaper in the world. Touch a raw nerve did he?

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Newspapers don't equate to facts. Newspapers love to report Elvis sightings. Does that mean he's still alive?

And yes you have touched a raw nerve. Bigitory like this annoys [edit] me. The fact is you probably work with/know/hangout with several gay people and don't know it. They just don't want to tell you because of your archaic beliefs.

What you have to ask yourself is, "Is it right that my beliefs stop another being open with me".

Oh and realise that just because you believe something, doesn't mean it's right

Edited October 11, 2005 by Saved by Grace

[eric]

a-hah, get a grip, mate, my beliefs aren't archaic, they're biblical.

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well for What God says i can tell you being an Disciple of Jesus Christ who is God, and this is the final Word. Sodomites are an abomination to God, they are an enemy putting themselves ahead of the creator to worship there lusts and carnal minds. God does not believe in 'rights' and neither do i. They are a man made thing to justify there desires, in the NIV in John chapter 1 it says: "He came unto his own and his own received him not, but to those who received him , he gave the RIGHT to become the Sons of God, even to those who believed on his name." This is the only 'right' i know of. This makes me a Son of God, and Heir of God and Joint Heir of Christ. I am now the Temple of God and the Temple in Jerusalem is no longer needed, for this is where God dwells. God cannot live in a Temple defiled, i.e. sodomites, only in one purified and Sanctified by the blood of the Holy one of God. His Lamb who paid for the whole worlds sins. By believing Jesus is the Son of God i have set to my seal that God is True. It is Written , let God be True and every man a LIAR! All i said comes from God, i do not believe in the things of this world , not the constitution, rights, courts or politicians to save me, only Jesus.

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Gays are damned, and they will know when they stand before God they opposed him and will know without any doubt they deserve hellfire. They will know without any doubt that without Christ they are lost with no hope.

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deu 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

[artsylady]

Just because a belief is ancient, doesn't make it wrong.

In fact, it's stood the test of time.

"Is it right that my beliefs stop another being open with me".

Do you believe murder is wrong? I'll presume you do. Suppose you had a coworker who was also a murderer. I would guess that if you were vocal about your beleiving murder to be wrong, that coworker wouldn't open up to you.....

Should you not have beleifs at all so that others can you relate to you better?

[Guest Mea Culpa]

Gays are damned, and they will know when they stand before God they opposed him and will know without any doubt they deserve hellfire. They will know without any doubt that without Christ they are lost with no hope.

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deu 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

If gays are damned then why continue to pursecute them? 'Love the sinner hate the sin' doesn't mention treating them as lesser. I know, it's an abomination but so are a lot of things. In fact I wonder if anyone here has commited any act that is an abomination? Actually the KJV uses the word "abomination" quite liberally:

1. Genesis 43:32

And they set on for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him, by themselves: because the Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians.

Genesis 43:31-33 (in Context) Genesis 43 (Whole Chapter)

2. Genesis 46:34

That ye shall say, Thy servants' trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians.

Genesis 46:33-35 (in Context) Genesis 46 (Whole Chapter)

3. Exodus 8:26

And Moses said, It is not meet so to do; for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to the LORD our God: lo, shall we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?

Exodus 8:25-27 (in Context) Exodus 8 (Whole Chapter)

4. Leviticus 7:18

And if any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings be eaten at all on the third day, it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination, and the soul that eateth of it shall bear his iniquity.

Leviticus 7:17-19 (in Context) Leviticus 7 (Whole Chapter)

5. Leviticus 11:10

And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

Leviticus 11:9-11 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

6. Leviticus 11:11

They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

Leviticus 11:10-12 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

7. Leviticus 11:12

Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Leviticus 11:11-13 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

8. Leviticus 11:13

And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

Leviticus 11:12-14 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

9. Leviticus 11:20

All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

Leviticus 11:19-21 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

10. Leviticus 11:23

But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

Leviticus 11:22-24 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

11. Leviticus 11:41

And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.

Leviticus 11:40-42 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

12. Leviticus 11:42

Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.

Leviticus 11:41-43 (in Context) Leviticus 11 (Whole Chapter)

13. Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:21-23 (in Context) Leviticus 18 (Whole Chapter)

14. Leviticus 18:26

Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

Leviticus 18:25-27 (in Context) Leviticus 18 (Whole Chapter)

15. Leviticus 18:27

(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

Leviticus 18:26-28 (in Context) Leviticus 18 (Whole Chapter)

16. Leviticus 18:29

For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

Leviticus 18:28-30 (in Context) Leviticus 18 (Whole Chapter)

17. Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:12-14 (in Context) Leviticus 20 (Whole Chapter)

18. Deuteronomy 7:25

The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therin: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 7:24-26 (in Context) Deuteronomy 7 (Whole Chapter)

19. Deuteronomy 7:26

Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

Deuteronomy 7:25-27 (in Context) Deuteronomy 7 (Whole Chapter)

20. Deuteronomy 12:31

Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

Deuteronomy 12:30-32 (in Context) Deuteronomy 12 (Whole Chapter)

21. Deuteronomy 13:14

Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

Deuteronomy 13:13-15 (in Context) Deuteronomy 13 (Whole Chapter)

22. Deuteronomy 17:1

Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 17:1-3 (in Context) Deuteronomy 17 (Whole Chapter)

23. Deuteronomy 17:4

And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 (in Context) Deuteronomy 17 (Whole Chapter)

24. Deuteronomy 18:9

When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

Deuteronomy 18:8-10 (in Context) Deuteronomy 18 (Whole Chapter)

25. Deuteronomy 18:12

For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Deuteronomy 18:11-13 (in Context) Deuteronomy 18 (Whole Chapter)

26. Deuteronomy 20:18

That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 20:17-19 (in Context) Deuteronomy 20 (Whole Chapter)

27. Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:4-6 (in Context) Deuteronomy 22 (Whole Chapter)

28. Deuteronomy 23:18

Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 23:17-19 (in Context) Deuteronomy 23 (Whole Chapter)

29. Deuteronomy 24:4

Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Deuteronomy 24:3-5 (in Context) Deuteronomy 24 (Whole Chapter)

30. Deuteronomy 25:16

For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 25:15-17 (in Context) Deuteronomy 25 (Whole Chapter)

31. Deuteronomy 27:15

Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

Deuteronomy 27:14-16 (in Context) Deuteronomy 27 (Whole Chapter)

32. Deuteronomy 29:17

And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:)

Deuteronomy 29:16-18 (in Context) Deuteronomy 29 (Whole Chapter)

33. Deuteronomy 32:16

They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.

Deuteronomy 32:15-17 (in Context) Deuteronomy 32 (Whole Chapter)

34. 1 Samuel 13:4

And all Israel heard say that Saul had smitten a garrison of the Philistines, and that Israel also was had in abomination with the Philistines. And the people were called together after Saul to Gilgal.

1 Samuel 13:3-5 (in Context) 1 Samuel 13 (Whole Chapter)

35. 1 Kings 11:5

For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.

1 Kings 11:4-6 (in Context) 1 Kings 11 (Whole Chapter)

36. 1 Kings 11:7

Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.

1 Kings 11:6-8 (in Context) 1 Kings 11 (Whole Chapter)

37. 1 Kings 14:24

And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

1 Kings 14:23-25 (in Context) 1 Kings 14 (Whole Chapter)

38. 2 Kings 16:3

But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, yea, and made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel.

2 Kings 16:2-4 (in Context) 2 Kings 16 (Whole Chapter)

39. 2 Kings 21:2

And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, after the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

2 Kings 21:1-3 (in Context) 2 Kings 21 (Whole Chapter)

40. 2 Kings 21:11

Because Manasseh king of Judah hath done these abominations, and hath done wickedly above all that the Amorites did, which were before him, and hath made Judah also to sin with his idols:

2 Kings 21:10-12 (in Context) 2 Kings 21 (Whole Chapter)

41. 2 Kings 23:13

And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile.

2 Kings 23:12-14 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)

42. 2 Kings 23:24

Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the LORD.

2 Kings 23:23-25 (in Context) 2 Kings 23 (Whole Chapter)

43. 2 Chronicles 28:3

Moreover he burnt incense in the valley of the son of Hinnom, and burnt his children in the fire, after the abominations of the heathen whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.

2 Chronicles 28:2-4 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 28 (Whole Chapter)

44. 2 Chronicles 33:2

But did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel.

2 Chronicles 33:1-3 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 33 (Whole Chapter)

45. 2 Chronicles 34:33

And Josiah took away all the abominations out of all the countries that pertained to the children of Israel, and made all that were present in Israel to serve, even to serve the LORD their God. And all his days they departed not from following the LORD, the God of their fathers.

2 Chronicles 34:32-34 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 34 (Whole Chapter)

46. 2 Chronicles 36:8

Now the rest of the acts of Jehoiakim, and his abominations which he did, and that which was found in him, behold, they are written in the book of the kings of Israel and Judah: and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.

2 Chronicles 36:7-9 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 36 (Whole Chapter)

47. 2 Chronicles 36:14

Moreover all the chief of the priests, and the people, transgressed very much after all the abominations of the heathen; and polluted the house of the LORD which he had hallowed in Jerusalem.

2 Chronicles 36:13-15 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 36 (Whole Chapter)

48. Ezra 9:1

Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

Ezra 9:1-3 (in Context) Ezra 9 (Whole Chapter)

49. Ezra 9:11

Which thou hast commanded by thy servants the prophets, saying, The land, unto which ye go to possess it, is an unclean land with the filthiness of the people of the lands, with their abominations, which have filled it from one end to another with their uncleanness.

Ezra 9:10-12 (in Context) Ezra 9 (Whole Chapter)

50. Ezra 9:14

Should we again break thy commandments, and join in affinity with the people of these abominations? wouldest not thou be angry with us till thou hadst consumed us, so that there should be no remnant nor escaping?

Ezra 9:13-15 (in Context) Ezra 9 (Whole Chapter)

51. Psalm 88:8

Thou hast put away mine acquaintance far from me; thou hast made me an abomination unto them: I am shut up, and I cannot come forth.

Psalm 88:7-9 (in Context) Psalm 88 (Whole Chapter)

52. Proverbs 3:32

For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous.

Proverbs 3:31-33 (in Context) Proverbs 3 (Whole Chapter)

53. Proverbs 6:16

These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

Proverbs 6:15-17 (in Context) Proverbs 6 (Whole Chapter)

54. Proverbs 8:7

For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

Proverbs 8:6-8 (in Context) Proverbs 8 (Whole Chapter)

55. Proverbs 11:1

A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.

Proverbs 11:1-3 (in Context) Proverbs 11 (Whole Chapter)

56. Proverbs 11:20

They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.

Proverbs 11:19-21 (in Context) Proverbs 11 (Whole Chapter)

57. Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Proverbs 12:21-23 (in Context) Proverbs 12 (Whole Chapter)

58. Proverbs 13:19

The desire accomplished is sweet to the soul: but it is abomination to fools to depart from evil.

Proverbs 13:18-20 (in Context) Proverbs 13 (Whole Chapter)

59. Proverbs 15:8

The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Proverbs 15:7-9 (in Context) Proverbs 15 (Whole Chapter)

60. Proverbs 15:9

The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

Proverbs 15:8-10 (in Context) Proverbs 15 (Whole Chapter)

61. Proverbs 15:26

The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

Proverbs 15:25-27 (in Context) Proverbs 15 (Whole Chapter)

62. Proverbs 16:5

Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 16:4-6 (in Context) Proverbs 16 (Whole Chapter)

63. Proverbs 16:12

It is an abomination to kings to commit wickedness: for the throne is established by righteousness.

Proverbs 16:11-13 (in Context) Proverbs 16 (Whole Chapter)

64. Proverbs 17:15

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 17:14-16 (in Context) Proverbs 17 (Whole Chapter)

65. Proverbs 20:10

Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 20:9-11 (in Context) Proverbs 20 (Whole Chapter)

66. Proverbs 20:23

Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.

Proverbs 20:22-24 (in Context) Proverbs 20 (Whole Chapter)

67. Proverbs 21:27

The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?

Proverbs 21:26-28 (in Context) Proverbs 21 (Whole Chapter)

68. Proverbs 24:9

The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men.

Proverbs 24:8-10 (in Context) Proverbs 24 (Whole Chapter)

69. Proverbs 26:25

When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.

Proverbs 26:24-26 (in Context) Proverbs 26 (Whole Chapter)

70. Proverbs 28:9

He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Proverbs 28:8-10 (in Context) Proverbs 28 (Whole Chapter)

71. Proverbs 29:27

An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

Proverbs 29:26-28 (in Context) Proverbs 29 (Whole Chapter)

72. Isaiah 1:13

Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Isaiah 1:12-14 (in Context) Isaiah 1 (Whole Chapter)

73. Isaiah 41:24

Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.

Isaiah 41:23-25 (in Context) Isaiah 41 (Whole Chapter)

74. Isaiah 44:19

And none considereth in his heart, neither is there knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten it: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?

Isaiah 44:18-20 (in Context) Isaiah 44 (Whole Chapter)

75. Isaiah 66:3

He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Isaiah 66:2-4 (in Context) Isaiah 66 (Whole Chapter)

76. Isaiah 66:17

They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Isaiah 66:16-18 (in Context) Isaiah 66 (Whole Chapter)

77. Jeremiah 2:7

And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.

Jeremiah 2:6-8 (in Context) Jeremiah 2 (Whole Chapter)

78. Jeremiah 4:1

If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the LORD, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove.

Jeremiah 4:1-3 (in Context) Jeremiah 4 (Whole Chapter)

79. Jeremiah 6:15

Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 6:14-16 (in Context) Jeremiah 6 (Whole Chapter)

80. Jeremiah 7:10

And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

Jeremiah 7:9-11 (in Context) Jeremiah 7 (Whole Chapter)

81. Jeremiah 7:30

For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it.

Jeremiah 7:29-31 (in Context) Jeremiah 7 (Whole Chapter)

82. Jeremiah 8:12

Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 8:11-13 (in Context) Jeremiah 8 (Whole Chapter)

83. Jeremiah 13:27

I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean? when shall it once be?

Jeremiah 13:26-28 (in Context) Jeremiah 13 (Whole Chapter)

84. Jeremiah 32:34

But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.

Jeremiah 32:33-35 (in Context) Jeremiah 32 (Whole Chapter)

85. Jeremiah 32:35

And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Jeremiah 32:34-36 (in Context) Jeremiah 32 (Whole Chapter)

86. Jeremiah 44:22

So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.

Jeremiah 44:21-23 (in Context) Jeremiah 44 (Whole Chapter)

87. Ezekiel 5:9

And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.

Ezekiel 5:8-10 (in Context) Ezekiel 5 (Whole Chapter)

88. Ezekiel 5:11

Wherefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD; Surely, because thou hast defiled my sanctuary with all thy detestable things, and with all thine abominations, therefore will I also diminish thee; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.

Ezekiel 5:10-12 (in Context) Ezekiel 5 (Whole Chapter)

89. Ezekiel 6:9

And they that escape of you shall remember me among the nations whither they shall be carried captives, because I am broken with their whorish heart, which hath departed from me, and with their eyes, which go a whoring after their idols: and they shall lothe themselves for the evils which they have committed in all their abominations.

Ezekiel 6:8-10 (in Context) Ezekiel 6 (Whole Chapter)

90. Ezekiel 6:11

Thus saith the Lord GOD; Smite with thine hand, and stamp with thy foot, and say, Alas for all the evil abominations of the house of Israel! for they shall fall by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Ezekiel 6:10-12 (in Context) Ezekiel 6 (Whole Chapter)

91. Ezekiel 7:3

Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon thee all thine abominations.

Ezekiel 7:2-4 (in Context) Ezekiel 7 (Whole Chapter)

92. Ezekiel 7:4

And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 7:3-5 (in Context) Ezekiel 7 (Whole Chapter)

93. Ezekiel 7:8

Now will I shortly pour out my fury upon thee, and accomplish mine anger upon thee: and I will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense thee for all thine abominations.

Ezekiel 7:7-9 (in Context) Ezekiel 7 (Whole Chapter)

94. Ezekiel 7:9

And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will recompense thee according to thy ways and thine abominations that are in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I am the LORD that smiteth.

Ezekiel 7:8-10 (in Context) Ezekiel 7 (Whole Chapter)

95. Ezekiel 7:20

As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it in majesty: but they made the images of their abominations and of their detestable things therein: therefore have I set it far from them.

Ezekiel 7:19-21 (in Context) Ezekiel 7 (Whole Chapter)

96. Ezekiel 8:6

He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.

Ezekiel 8:5-7 (in Context) Ezekiel 8 (Whole Chapter)

97. Ezekiel 8:9

And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

Ezekiel 8:8-10 (in Context) Ezekiel 8 (Whole Chapter)

98. Ezekiel 8:13

He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.

Ezekiel 8:12-14 (in Context) Ezekiel 8 (Whole Chapter)

99. Ezekiel 8:15

Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

Ezekiel 8:14-16 (in Context) Ezekiel 8 (Whole Chapter)

100. Ezekiel 8:17

Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.

Ezekiel 8:16-18 (in Context) Ezekiel 8 (Whole Chapter)

101. Ezekiel 9:4

And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Ezekiel 9:3-5 (in Context) Ezekiel 9 (Whole Chapter)

102. Ezekiel 11:18

And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.

Ezekiel 11:17-19 (in Context) Ezekiel 11 (Whole Chapter)

103. Ezekiel 11:21

But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 11:20-22 (in Context) Ezekiel 11 (Whole Chapter)

104. Ezekiel 12:16

But I will leave a few men of them from the sword, from the famine, and from the pestilence; that they may declare all their abominations among the heathen whither they come; and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 12:15-17 (in Context) Ezekiel 12 (Whole Chapter)

105. Ezekiel 14:6

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

Ezekiel 14:5-7 (in Context) Ezekiel 14 (Whole Chapter)

106. Ezekiel 16:2

Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Ezekiel 16:1-3 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

107. Ezekiel 16:22

And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.

Ezekiel 16:21-23 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

108. Ezekiel 16:36

Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;

Ezekiel 16:35-37 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

109. Ezekiel 16:43

Because thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, but hast fretted me in all these things; behold, therefore I also will recompense thy way upon thine head, saith the Lord GOD: and thou shalt not commit this lewdness above all thine abominations.

Ezekiel 16:42-44 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

110. Ezekiel 16:47

Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted more than they in all thy ways.

Ezekiel 16:46-48 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

111. Ezekiel 16:50

And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

Ezekiel 16:49-51 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

112. Ezekiel 16:51

Neither hath Samaria committed half of thy sins; but thou hast multiplied thine abominations more than they, and hast justified thy sisters in all thine abominations which thou hast done.

Ezekiel 16:50-52 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

113. Ezekiel 16:58

Thou hast borne thy lewdness and thine abominations, saith the LORD.

Ezekiel 16:57-59 (in Context) Ezekiel 16 (Whole Chapter)

114. Ezekiel 18:12

Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,

Ezekiel 18:11-13 (in Context) Ezekiel 18 (Whole Chapter)

115. Ezekiel 18:13

Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

Ezekiel 18:12-14 (in Context) Ezekiel 18 (Whole Chapter)

116. Ezekiel 18:24

But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Ezekiel 18:23-25 (in Context) Ezekiel 18 (Whole Chapter)

117. Ezekiel 20:4

Wilt thou judge them, son of man, wilt thou judge them? cause them to know the abominations of their fathers:

Ezekiel 20:3-5 (in Context) Ezekiel 20 (Whole Chapter)

118. Ezekiel 20:7

Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Ezekiel 20:6-8 (in Context) Ezekiel 20 (Whole Chapter)

119. Ezekiel 20:8

But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.

Ezekiel 20:7-9 (in Context) Ezekiel 20 (Whole Chapter)

120. Ezekiel 20:30

Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after their abominations?

Ezekiel 20:29-31 (in Context) Ezekiel 20 (Whole Chapter)

121. Ezekiel 22:2

Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations.

Ezekiel 22:1-3 (in Context) Ezekiel 22 (Whole Chapter)

122. Ezekiel 22:11

And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour's wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father's daughter.

Ezekiel 22:10-12 (in Context) Ezekiel 22 (Whole Chapter)

123. Ezekiel 23:36

The LORD said moreover unto me; Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? yea, declare unto them their abominations;

Ezekiel 23:35-37 (in Context) Ezekiel 23 (Whole Chapter)

124. Ezekiel 33:26

Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

Ezekiel 33:25-27 (in Context) Ezekiel 33 (Whole Chapter)

125. Ezekiel 33:29

Then shall they know that I am the LORD, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

Ezekiel 33:28-30 (in Context) Ezekiel 33 (Whole Chapter)

126. Ezekiel 36:31

Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

Ezekiel 36:30-32 (in Context) Ezekiel 36 (Whole Chapter)

127. Ezekiel 43:8

In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger.

Ezekiel 43:7-9 (in Context) Ezekiel 43 (Whole Chapter)

128. Ezekiel 44:6

And thou shalt say to the rebellious, even to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; O ye house of Israel, let it suffice you of all your abominations,

Ezekiel 44:5-7 (in Context) Ezekiel 44 (Whole Chapter)

129. Ezekiel 44:7

In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

Ezekiel 44:6-8 (in Context) Ezekiel 44 (Whole Chapter)

130. Ezekiel 44:13

And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.

Ezekiel 44:12-14 (in Context) Ezekiel 44 (Whole Chapter)

131. Daniel 9:27

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:26-28 (in Context) Daniel 9 (Whole Chapter)

132. Daniel 11:31

And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Daniel 11:30-32 (in Context) Daniel 11 (Whole Chapter)

133. Daniel 12:11

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Daniel 12:10-12 (in Context) Daniel 12 (Whole Chapter)

134. Hosea 9:10

I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

Hosea 9:9-11 (in Context) Hosea 9 (Whole Chapter)

135. Zechariah 9:7

And I will take away his blood out of his mouth, and his abominations from between his teeth: but he that remaineth, even he, shall be for our God, and he shall be as a governor in Judah, and Ekron as a Jebusite.

Zechariah 9:6-8 (in Context) Zechariah 9 (Whole Chapter)

136. Malachi 2:11

Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

Malachi 2:10-12 (in Context) Malachi 2 (Whole Chapter)

137. Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:14-16 (in Context) Matthew 24 (Whole Chapter)

138. Mark 13:14

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Mark 13:13-15 (in Context) Mark 13 (Whole Chapter)

139. Luke 16:15

And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Luke 16:14-16 (in Context) Luke 16 (Whole Chapter)

140. Revelation 17:4

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Revelation 17:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 17 (Whole Chapter)

141. Revelation 17:5

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Revelation 17:4-6 (in Context) Revelation 17 (Whole Chapter)

142. Revelation 21:27

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 21:26-28 (in Context) Revelation 21 (Whole Chapter)

[eric]

Hi. MeaCulpa and I see you are new to these boards , so welcome and I hope you find what you are seeking for right here. If you read the TOS and SOF and keep withine bounds of them you will find a lot of truths about the way we function.

The thread you have just joined is an ongoing topic in different forums and always has and always will be, I assume.

So regarding this quote of yours,

If gays are damned then why continue to pursecute them? 'Love the sinner hate the sin' doesn't mention treating them as lesser. I know, it's an abomination but so are a lot of things. In fact I wonder if anyone here has commited any act that is an abomination? Actually the KJV uses the word "abomination" quite liberally:

Nobody on this board, that I can remember has ever persecuted homosexuals,merely have used different terminology to describe them. Some of us have a different perspective how they should be approached on order to show the error of their lifestyle. Some of the older members, like mysely, prefer the direct approach and some the gentle approach, especially the younger ones of the feminine gender.

Either way, MC, there are heaps of new christians reading the posts, some no doubt struggling in their walk and I think it is only fair that they are warned of the pitfalls they encounter when they enter the debating forums.' particularly on the subject of sexual immorality and promiscuity, a sin that gets more coverage in the bible than any other except for idol worship.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say, but bless you sister for your input and I hope you stick around for a while, and come to know us.

YBIC,

er input

[Guest freebird]

Freebird:

Do you think that we are born with sexual preferences? If yes, do you think pedophiles are an exception to this rule and why?

yes i was bornthis way, kinsey's report brought me "out of the closet" so to speek.

as far as anything else is concerned i dont know

Inti

WSB does have to substantiate his claim. It's been documented in every major newspaper in the world. Touch a raw nerve did he?

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Newspapers don't equate to facts. Newspapers love to report Elvis sightings. Does that mean he's still alive?

And yes you have touched a raw nerve. Bigitory like this annoys [edit] me. The fact is you probably work with/know/hangout with several gay people and don't know it. They just don't want to tell you because of your archaic beliefs.

What you have to ask yourself is, "Is it right that my beliefs stop another being open with me".

Oh and realise that just because you believe something, doesn't mean it's right

thank you

[igh]

The Gospel brought me to Jesus. Kinsey is damned. People think they have all the time in the world, they do not, we are here for a short time. Luke 12:15 "And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth."

Mark 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be DAMNED. "

You must surrender to God in Christ Jesus, you are not sufficient alone to stand before God, nor to live in this world. You have little strength to live in these wicked days.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Those Saved by the Holy Blood are not to have fellowship with those who are gay. We are not to long for the things you have or the things you do. We are to hate what you do and even what you say and think, for the carnal mind is God's enemy.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Gays want despretely to be accepted by Christians, we cant and never will accept what is death for us when we have chosen LIFE!!! Gays cannot understand this, for the Gospel is foolishness unto those who perish.

1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

1Co 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

bill and hillary push there 'rights agenda' all who are of the carnal mind want 'rights' i do not believe in rights, only the power of God to save me.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

[eric]

freebird said

yes i was bornthis way, kinsey's report brought me "out of the closet" so to speek.

as far as anything else is concerned i dont know

Kinsey is or was man and is fallible. I listen to what God says, which is infallible, not man.