MorningGlory Posted May 30, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, tigger398 said: Isn't sanders behind. Even Clinton is ahead of him. She is barely beating him but she will be the Democrat nominee. She will have to go heads up with Trump and that can be a bruising process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted May 30, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,525 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 hours ago, shiloh357 said: If Bernie is the nominee, Trump will obliterate him in the debates. Actually I hate to say this but I think Sanders stands a much better chance of beating trump then Hillary does, or even biden. The democrats just hate him so much they are unwilling to see that. Sanders is the "trump" of the Democrat party, very much the outsider, even though a lot of his stances are very much Democrat. The difference is hes honest about them. Trumps feeding off the hatred of the system-sanders is feeding of the hatred of the systems dishonesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 56 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said: Actually I hate to say this but I think Sanders stands a much better chance of beating trump then Hillary does, or even biden. The democrats just hate him so much they are unwilling to see that. Sanders is the "trump" of the Democrat party, very much the outsider, even though a lot of his stances are very much Democrat. The difference is hes honest about them. Trumps feeding off the hatred of the system-sanders is feeding of the hatred of the systems dishonesty. Sanders has little about him that is democrat. The only either Hillary or Sanders can beat Trump is if they rig the voting machines like they did in 2012. Trump will go for the jugular on either candidate and frankly. Trump isn't really feeding off hatred as much as he is tapped into the sense of nationalism/patriotism that most Americans cherish and which has been diminished by this president and his Administration. Trump is a nationalist; those that oppose him in Congress and in other parts of the government are globalists. There is an agenda to create a global, borderless world and even Kerry recently spoke of this at a college graduation speech. Trump has also tapped into the anger of those who love this country and are tired of having to take a backseat to Russia and having our military stripped by this administration. It's not an irrational anger, but an indignation that finally, someone who is in the public eye has the courage to voice. Trump is flawed, no doubt. But you know, Oscar Schindler was a drunken adulterer. He was a pretty shady character morally speaking. But to the over 1,000 Jews he saved in the Holocaust, he was an angel. Even today, the Jews are willing to overlook his personal flaws because of what he did for them. Many Americans can over look Trump's flaws if he can at least, to some degree put this nation back on the right track economically and militarily and restore what made us a great nation and the envy of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted May 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,525 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted May 31, 2016 8 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Sanders has little about him that is democrat. The only either Hillary or Sanders can beat Trump is if they rig the voting machines like they did in 2012. Trump will go for the jugular on either candidate and frankly. Trump isn't really feeding off hatred as much as he is tapped into the sense of nationalism/patriotism that most Americans cherish and which has been diminished by this president and his Administration. Trump is a nationalist; those that oppose him in Congress and in other parts of the government are globalists. There is an agenda to create a global, borderless world and even Kerry recently spoke of this at a college graduation speech. Trump has also tapped into the anger of those who love this country and are tired of having to take a backseat to Russia and having our military stripped by this administration. It's not an irrational anger, but an indignation that finally, someone who is in the public eye has the courage to voice. Trump is flawed, no doubt. But you know, Oscar Schindler was a drunken adulterer. He was a pretty shady character morally speaking. But to the over 1,000 Jews he saved in the Holocaust, he was an angel. Even today, the Jews are willing to overlook his personal flaws because of what he did for them. Many Americans can over look Trump's flaws if he can at least, to some degree put this nation back on the right track economically and militarily and restore what made us a great nation and the envy of the world. no, hes very much "democrat" the problem is, hes an actual democrat, hes the kind of democrat, that the people want, not the kind of democrat those in power want. And hes doing very well in the polls, in fact depending on the polls your looking at, hes blowing both hillary and trump out of the water. Granted, this early on it is difficult to predict. But, in a head to head competition, I think sanders would do a lot better against trump then hillary, simply because sanders is so well liked, and he doesnt play dirty like Trump does. The reason Trump did so well against all his GOP people, is his ability to sling mud better then they do, and the fact he has more spine then most of the GOP party. Its also why hed do so well against hillary, she plays dirty, like most instition democrats, but shes not used to running up against someone who actually bites back, like trump. Bernie, on the other hand doesnt play dirty-hes clean cut, and in comparison, is liable to draw a lot more voters because of his clean campaign. I dont know if hed win against trump in a straight up match, but i think hed do better then hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said: no, hes very much "democrat" the problem is, hes an actual democrat, hes the kind of democrat, that the people want, not the kind of democrat those in power want. No, Sanders is not a Democrat. He is not running as a Democrat. He is running as a Socialist. That is the stated platform of his campaign. He has said repeatedly that he is not a Democrat and is a committed socialist. So, I'll go by what their campaign says they are. Quote And hes doing very well in the polls, in fact depending on the polls your looking at, hes blowing both hillary and trump out of the water. Polls can be manipulated to say whatever the pollsters wants them to say. Quote But, in a head to head competition, I think sanders would do a lot better against trump then hillary, simply because sanders is so well liked, and he doesnt play dirty like Trump does. Sanders might to better than Hillary against Trump but Sanders can't really beat Trump. And it's Sanders supporters who are causing all of the riots, not Trump. You don't see Trump supporters going to Sanders rallies and beating up Sanders' supporters and busting windows and fighting the police. Trump isn't playing dirty at all. Quote The reason Trump did so well against all his GOP people, is his ability to sling mud better then they do, and the fact he has more spine then most of the GOP party. Quote No, the reason Trump does so well against the other GOP candidates is because Trump exposed the fact that the GOP doesn't listen to the American people. His campaign for better or worse, pulled back the curtain and showed the people that the GOP isn't really conservative and that as far as the GOP was concerned the average voter is too stupid to vote. Trump's campaign showed the voters that the GOP is going to run the candidate that they want, not the candidate the people want. And like I said earlier, Trump also tapped into the nationalistic pride of the American people as opposed to the globalist agenda that characterizes both the Democratic party and the GOP. They are globalists who want to eventually get rid of our borders, our national sovereignty and create a borderless world. The "Make America Great Again" motto is anathema to the globalists. Most Americans cannot see the globalist agenda even when the globalists state it outright like Kerry did at a recent college graduation speech. Trump is exposing a lot more than most people realize because they are focused and offended because he calls some guys, "losers." Guess what, some of those "losers" are now endorsing Trump. The "mud slinging" is offensive to a lot of people but Trump won because he goes for the jugular and he hits back hard and gives back better than he gets. Quote Its also why hed do so well against hillary, she plays dirty, like most instition democrats, but shes not used to running up against someone who actually bites back, like trump. Bernie, The reason he will obliterate Hillary is because she is a catastrophically flawed candidate. She has soooooo much baggage going into this. If any other candidate were under FBI investigation, that alone would have halted their campaign. For me to say that she is flawed doesn't really cover it. The woman is a traitor and a felon. She needs to be in prison. The Obama's hate the Clintons, which is well known in the public domain. Heck, you or I could run for president and beat Hillary Clinton. Quote Bernie, on the other hand doesnt play dirty-hes clean cut, and in comparison, is liable to draw a lot more voters because of his clean campaign. I dont know if hed win against trump in a straight up match, but i think hed do better then hillary. Sanders supporters are people who think they are going to get free stuff, pretty much. The man has never worked a 40 week in his life. He lived on welfare until he held public office in Vermont. He used to write pornographic stories. His wife just bankrupted a local college in Vermont and is being sued by the Diocese of Vermont for fraud. He is not as clean cut as you think. And he is doing nothing to stop his supporters from rioting at the conventions or at Trump rallies. His supporters are more like the Hitler brown shirts that were always disrupting rallies. He wants a political revolution which in socialist speak, includes violent protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted May 31, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,525 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Shiloh, that's pretty much what democrats are...much of the policies Obama has been pushing are sociolisti policies, and if you look at hillaries program she is to. Sanders policies arnt really that different, he's just honest about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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