Happinessity Posted May 8, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 260 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 188 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 8, 2017 Pastor's Widow Arrested, Handcuffed in the Middle of Church The unbelievable pettiness of people and against a widow of their own pastor. By their fruits. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BacKaran Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Oh well, you know what the Bible says about women's roles, preacher ain't one of them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinessity Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 260 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 188 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 19 hours ago, BacKaran said: Oh well, you know what the Bible says about women's roles, preacher ain't one of them.... No, I don't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinessity Posted May 9, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 260 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 188 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 The men of the board should have shown a little more respect for the widow of their former pastor. Maybe they don't think a woman has a right to preach and this is how they enforce the prohibition. Her husband should have set his affairs in order so this wouldn't happen. That appears to be what allows these men to behave in this way. And to shame her like that in front of the church is deplorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 2017-05-09 at 2:57 PM, Happinessity said: The men of the board should have shown a little more respect for the widow of their former pastor. Maybe they don't think a woman has a right to preach and this is how they enforce the prohibition. Her husband should have set his affairs in order so this wouldn't happen. That appears to be what allows these men to behave in this way. And to shame her like that in front of the church is deplorable. Did the article say that no one talked to her about the fact she shouldn't be preaching and that she wasn't automatically going to be pastor? why assume she's the victim and oh the men on the board oh my! Maybe, just maybe she was told repeatedly and refused to listen. Police don't just show up and slap the cuffs on someone for trespassing unless there's a history of non compliance. Or maybe the Detroit police have nothing better to do. I don't know I wasn't there. But to play her as the victim without all the facts I think is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchmouse Posted May 11, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,216 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 1,014 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/02/1958 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 1:57 PM, Happinessity said: The men of the board should have shown a little more respect for the widow of their former pastor. Maybe they don't think a woman has a right to preach and this is how they enforce the prohibition. Her husband should have set his affairs in order so this wouldn't happen. That appears to be what allows these men to behave in this way. And to shame her like that in front of the church is deplorable. The respect that comes from a church should be to God and his purposes, not mans. It should not matter if the man had set his affairs in order, because everything he got came from God through the church. When God took him, he took also the authority he gave to the man which he gave to the church. God called this man to be over this flock and it had nothing to do with the woman. She was his wife and should take what any other widow should have had according to law, but to simply confiscate what the Church allowed her husband to have while he was their preacher, because he was their preacher is the Churches property and it is theirs to do with as they please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 There are a lot better ways to handle a grieving widow who's probably operating out of that grief. You can handle things professionally instead of slapping cuffs on someone. Guess they forgot about the part regarding how to treat widows in the Bible. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinessity Posted May 11, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 260 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 188 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 hours ago, Judas Machabeus said: Did the article say that no one talked to her about the fact she shouldn't be preaching and that she wasn't automatically going to be pastor? why assume she's the victim and oh the men on the board oh my! Maybe, just maybe she was told repeatedly and refused to listen. Police don't just show up and slap the cuffs on someone for trespassing unless there's a history of non compliance. Or maybe the Detroit police have nothing better to do. I don't know I wasn't there. But to play her as the victim without all the facts I think is wrong. Just as is playing her the villain is. Without all the facts. Police do show up and remove people for trespassing when called. As you saw. And who escorted the police to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinessity Posted May 11, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 260 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 188 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 hours ago, Churchmouse said: The respect that comes from a church should be to God and his purposes, not mans. It should not matter if the man had set his affairs in order, because everything he got came from God through the church. When God took him, he took also the authority he gave to the man which he gave to the church. God called this man to be over this flock and it had nothing to do with the woman. She was his wife and should take what any other widow should have had according to law, but to simply confiscate what the Church allowed her husband to have while he was their preacher, because he was their preacher is the Churches property and it is theirs to do with as they please. I think you would have learned a great deal if you would have committed to reading the article that was linked here. This way you would know what we are speaking about. God's purpose of course. However, that is not the issue that had this woman arrested. Quote Bishop IV Hilliard, who claimed Ben Gibert as a spiritual son, says Charisse Gibert is the successor to DWO's pulpit. "It appears that Bishop Ben's successor, Pastor Charisse, was appointed in accordance with the DWO bylaws as his successor. This matter is now before the civil courts and we trust it will be decided soon. If I thought or believed that Pastor Charisse and the Reconstituted Board of DWO were in error either spiritually or legally, I would advise them to immediately back away from this fight," Hilliard says in a statement. However, DWO elders say Ben Gibert died without a succession plan set in place. The elders say they did not dispute Charisse's claim to the clergy role, but wanted her to follow the bylaws in achieving the senior pastor status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Judas Machabeus Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Happinessity said: Just as is playing her the villain is. Without all the facts. Police do show up and remove people for trespassing when called. As you saw. And who escorted the police to her? I think you misunderstood me. I'm not denying she was cuffed and escorted out. I also did not say they won't do it. 11 hours ago, Judas Machabeus said: Police don't just show up and slap the cuffs on someone for trespassing unless there's a history of non compliance Unless there's a history of non compliance. What are the facts? Who has the authority to appoint the preacher at this Church? Did they appoint her preacher? if they did not appoint her preacher did they ask her not to preach? How many times did they ask her to stop? Were they clear about their intentions? These are the questions I would like answered before playing the "oh the poor widow" card. Like I said, I don't know and I wasn't there. Neither did either side consult with me, therefore I'll reserve judgement of either side until I know more. As for me claiming she was the villain without all the facts.... I didn't do that either. I don't know if speculation counts as judging, but if I had to hazard a guess, I would say she was told to cease preaching based on the level the police responded. But maybe the elders were being jerks..... maybe I don't know. But I'm not going to condemn one side or the other. My point is there is more to the story and maybe see's not the victim. I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Right now we know she was handcuffed and removed from the property. Clearly someone else had the authority to make that happen otherwise the police would not have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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