Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cletus said: embrace a people that only wants to rape and murder you? Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. How is it possible to live in peace with a people bent on exterminating your people? How is it possible to live in peace with people who are only aggressive and plot to destroy you with gasoline bombs attached to nazi flags? Truth be told, Israel is trying to live in peace with them, but they wont have it. You dont make friends with a snake because it will still bite you. They are of the devil and there is no fellowship between light and dark. God also said when they drive out people from their land, if they do not completely drive them out, those people will be a thorn in their side. Our friend James Dyson, doesn't really understand that Israel has bent over backwards and has done more for peace with the Palestinians than is commonly reported on liberal news outlets. He doesn't know how much blood and treasure Israel has invested in peace only to be repaid with more Palestinian terrorism and more calls for Israel's destruction by the Palestinians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 BEYOND IMAGES www.beyondimages.info Israel’s medical support for Palestinian society London - published on 2 November 2004 Beyond Images Briefing 110 Summary: Israel’s achievements in providing healthcare and medical support to Palestinian society over past decades are highlighted in the article below, published in September 2004. The author is Theo Dov Golan, a former Director-General of Israel’s Ministry of Health, and formerly Head of the Israeli Army Medical Corps. Golan ends by asking why these Israeli humanitarian accomplishments are unknown and unreported among the general public. Israel is accused…. but “the opposite is true” Israel is constantly accused of misconduct and even ‘barbarian’ and ‘racist’ behaviour towards its Palestinian neighbours, especially at the United Nations where a disproportionate amount of time and energy of the world body is taken up on passing resolutions against Israel. At my recent presentation to the United Nations Correspondents’ Association, one of the journalists addressed the so-called ‘barbaric treatment of the Palestinians by Israel’ which he was convinced was the whole story. When I explained that events in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict resulted from Israel’s being forced to protect its citizens from Palestinian terror, he exclaimed emotionally: “You Israelis, you Jews who have suffered so much in the past – from you the world expects a more humane response”. As a physician, I unequivocally can give proof that the opposite is true. Israel has set an example of a level of humanitarian medical aid to others including Palestinians, which no other nation can compete with. Israel’s medical support programmes to Palestinian society Here are the facts: Israel was responsible for the welfare of the Palestinians during these years, 1967 – 1994, until the Palestinian Authority took over. During that period, Israel has presented annually dramatic documented achievements to the World Health Organisation (WHO) either by myself, as head of the Israeli delegation, or by the other Israeli officials of the Ministry of Health. This included the total eradication in the Palestinian population of poliomyelitis, neonatal-tetanus and measles. Also, Israel dramatically reduced the death rate of Palestinian newborns from over 60/1000 to 19/1000 within those 27 years of Israel’s presence. These achievements and others were accomplished by the directives of Israel’s Health Authority in planning, training and implementation of modern medicine. This included the introduction of new immunisation protocols (in coordination with UNICEF) as well as new technologies and new medicines. These programmes were performed either on site at Palestinian facilities, or in Israel’s hospitals and medical schools, where doctors, nurses, midwives, medical technicians etc were trained. These achievements resulted from the willingness of the local Palestinian population to be helped (almost free of charge) by Israel’s public health care system, and by the collaborative nature of Palestinian medical teams. Training for Palestinian medical staff and surgeons in Israeli hospitals Israel’s Ministry of Health’s most dramatic and challenging training projects for the Palestinian physicians was to keep secret the specialisation programmes in anaesthesiology, open heart and brain surgery, conducted in Israeli hospitals. No other nation on earth has ever voluntarily decided to show such a humane and forthcoming attitude towards people which could be characterised as ‘enemy’. Would the United States train Al-Qaeda physicians or Russia train such professionals of the ‘Chechnyan freedom fighters’ on their own people? Moreover, after successful completion of training, fully equipped Intensive Care, Open-Heart and Neuro-Surgery Units were opened for the first time in the Palestinian hospitals for the benefit of the Palestinians. Furthermore, the Israeli medical tutors continued to guide the newly established units, and if needed were available continuously to assist them on site. Since 1994, in spite of directives issued by the Palestinian Authority to stop the collaborative programmes with Israel and in spite of the ongoing hostilities, informal cooperation between the Israeli and Palestinian medical teams continues, though of a lesser magnitude. Palestinian patients are referred daily to Israeli hospitals especially in the fields of oncology, organ transplantation and acute severe complications of trauma and pregnancy (11,000 were treated last year). Similarly, several training programmes are continuing in spite of difficulties. “Sanctifying life, not death” Israel unequivocally demonstrates to the world that it sanctifies life and not death – the lives of Palestinian children, adults and elderly, including those of wounded terrorists, are treated in Israeli hospitals with the same care and alongside Israeli patients. This approach is deeply rooted in our Jewish tradition that “whoever saves one life (and not necessarily the life of a Jew) has saved the whole world”. Ahmed Tibi, the outspoken Israeli-Arab Knesset Member, recently requested that his wounded Palestinian niece be transferred from a Palestinian hospital to an Israeli one. Tibi, who often accuses Israel of being ‘racist’, knew that his niece would receive the best medical treatment regardless of being a Palestinian, and indeed a full and speedy recovery resulted. The big “Why” Why is it then, that this unprecedented, outreaching and caring behaviour of Israel remains unknown and unreported to the general public, although documented and presented at official bodies of the international community? Is it that ‘good news is no news’ or is there a ‘hidden’ agenda of double standards and hypocrisy towards Israel (as addressed in Alan Dershowitz’s book A Case for Israel)? Or are we the people that the world loves to hate? There is a big and unanswered WHY that needs to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Badjao33 said: God kept His promises made to Abraham. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land. And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.” Genesis 12:5-7 “So the LORD gave to Israel all the land of which He had sworn to give to their fathers, and they took possession of it and dwelt in it . . . Not a word failed of any good thing which the LORD had spoken to the house of Israel. All came to pass” Joshua 21:43, 45 There were conditions to those promises and the people of Israel That only applies to promises made regarding the initial possession of the Land. There are MORE promises made regarding Israel's ongoing possession of the land, as well, that are made beyond the promises made to Abraham, and are made to the nation itself. Quote But if your heart turns away and you will not obey, but are drawn away and worship other gods and serve them, I declare to you today that you shall surely perish. You will not prolong your days in the land where you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess it. Deuteronomy 30:17-18 “But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods and worship them, then I will uproot you from My land which I have given you, and this house which I have consecrated for My name I will cast out of My sight and I will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples. 2 Chronicles 7:19-20 In the Bible we find several examples that show how Israel violated the covenant. This in turn abrogated the agreement, making it null and void. The land promise that God made to Abraham was fulfilled over 3000 years ago as scripture plainly tells us and this is why we should not expect any kind of fulfillment of Israel returning to the land in our day and time. And God fulfilled those promises and God not only promised to exile them from the land for their sins, but also promised to return them to the Land and those promises of restoration are being fulfilled today. And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God. (Amo 9:14-15) That promises is yet to be fulfilled to Israel. God is in the process of restoring them to the Land of Israel and when He does, they will never be taken out of the Land again. Quote To blindly stand with the modern state of Israel without condemning their atrocities is not following the teachings of Jesus. Followers of Jesus must stand with the oppressed, not the oppressors. We stand with Israel because we stand with the promises of God. The ones committing the atrocities are Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Al Asqa and other terrorist groups. They are the ones calling for Israel's destruction and they are the ones oppressing the Palestinian people. Your ungodly hatred of Israel blinds you to all of the humanitarian aid that Israel has given to the Palestinians over the last 70 years, and how much of that humanitarian aid was diverted from the Palestinians in order to be sold for more weapons. Billions of $$$ have been poured into their coffers, but never reaches the people because the Palestinian leadership has decided that destroying Israel is their goal and if every Palestinian man, woman and child has to die in order for Israel to be destroyed, then so be it. Hamas takes every innocent person they can find and sacrifices them as cannon fodder in their war with Israel. It helps them gain propaganda points in the media and in the Muslim world. They put innocent people in harm's way as they fire rockets from Israel in civilian locations in order so that innocents will die in Israel's response. The ones that do not die immediately, are denied medical care so that the fatality rate is ramped up, again, for propaganda points. Israel is not committing atrocities. The collateral damage would be far, far less if Hamas and Co. were not intentionally ramping up the fatality rates. The terrorists are the oppressors. Israel has wanted nothing but peace, but ever gesture and every concession Israel makes is repaid with more dead Jews in Israel's streets. We are standing with the oppressed. We are not standing the infidel Muslim oppressors. Because WE follow Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Badjao33 said: The tens of thousands of Christians in Gaza and the West Bank would probably disagree with you. Yeah, but it's the Christians in Gaza that get the brunt of Hamas' oppression. They are heavily persecuted by Hamas and Co. not by Israel. https://www.christianheadlines.com/news/hamas-complicit-in-persecution-of-gaza-christians-11562299.html https://int.icej.org/news/special-reports/persecution-gaza https://legalinsurrection.com/2014/08/gaza-ethnic-cleansing-of-christians/ https://jewishinfonews.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/gaza-as-flotillas-set-sail-for-gaza-christians-are-being-persecuted-by-hamas/ https://www.newsmax.com/International/Hamas-bombs-Gaza-Israel/2009/01/09/id/327583/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Badjao33 said: Depends on who you ask I guess. “These spokespeople have wrongly propagated a cynical discourse misleadingly touting “Christian persecution by Muslims.” Every Friday, we celebrate the holy mass attended by hundreds of Palestinian Christians from Bethlehem, Ramallah and Jerusalem in the Cremisan Area of Beit Jala. The holy service, celebrated among ancient olive trees, was not a prayer to end a “Muslim-led persecution” but to prevent Israel from confiscating this area of land that belongs to 58 Palestinian Christian families – Israel’s latest attempt to consolidate its ring of settlements that aim to sever Bethlehem from Jerusalem. This is one last attempt to prevent a land confiscation that would have catastrophic consequences for the local Christian population.” -- Father Faysal Hijazeen “The Palestinian issue is a problem that concerns all of us, Christians and Muslims alike. It’s a problem of every free intellectual individual aspiring for justice and freedom in this world. We the Palestinian Christians suffer along with the rest of Palestinians from occupation and hardships of our economic situation. Muslims and Christians suffer equally, as there is no difference in suffering for any of us. We are all living in the same complicated circumstances, and overcoming the same difficulties. As a church and as individuals we protect this people, and we hope a day will come when Palestinians get their freedom and dignity.” -- Archbishop Sebastia Theodosios Ted Cruz Booed Off Stage By Middle Eastern Christians! http://www1.cbn.com/thebrodyfile-276 Sorry, but I have provided plenty of evidence that it is Hamas and Co. who are persecuting the Christians, not Israel. Quote We the Palestinian Christians suffer along with the rest of Palestinians from occupation and hardships of our economic situation. Muslims and Christians suffer equally, as there is no difference in suffering for any of us. We are all living in the same complicated circumstances, and overcoming the same difficulties. That is a lie. First of all there is no occupation because there never was a Palestinian nation/country to occupy. Secondly, the Palestinian's problems are self-inflicted. If they were not obsessed with destroying Israel, raising their children to be suicide bombers and electing terrorists to be their representative government, they would find peace and prosperity. Quote As a church and as individuals we protect this people, and we hope a day will come when Palestinians get their freedom and dignity.” -- Archbishop Sebastia Theodosios There is a huge difference between people like that Archbishop and those Palestinians who are genuinely born agan and facing the brunt of Hamas' wrath. The Palestinians living in Israel, over 2 million Palestinians who are full citizens, enjoy freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, have full access to Israel's judiciary and enjoy free universal healthcare. The Palestinian Christians who were living in Bethlehem had to flee to Jerusalem because it was the Muslims/PLO that ran drove them from their homes. Israel built a special school for Palestinian blind children. The PLO turned it into an armory. Israel has given the Palestinians far more than they would have ever gotten from their Muslim oppressors in Jordan and Egypt. After the Six Day War, Israel helped the Palestinians whose children were dying of preventable childhood diseases/illnesses. It has always been Israel that has blessed the Palestinians, not the Muslims. Edited May 21, 2018 by shiloh357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdyson Posted May 21, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 109 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Sojourner414 said: When Hadrian renamed Israel "Palestina"(palestine), he was intending on destroying the national identity of the people and the land, and would never have used a name that had been previously associated with Israel. Instead, he renamed the land after Israel's enemies. I disagree with the statements above. First: Israel was the name of a person, not a place. Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Second: the Israelite people were not warring people and had no armies. (Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers. (Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen. (Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers. Third: and last: The “promised Land” was not the land now claimed my the Israeli's today--- Promised Land “Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly. Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west. The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.” http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab Folklore is one thing, history is another--- Edited May 21, 2018 by jamesdyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdyson Posted May 21, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 109 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) On 5/20/2018 at 3:46 PM, shiloh357 said: Most of those links are from 2003-04 at the height of the propaganda war against Israel. NOTE: If the [text] is to small to read, just hold down the [CTRL] key while rolling you mouse roller up or down MOST of those links? You jest of course or you are lying to yourself. I have seen this kind of behavior before. Now we have Trump as our "President", the master of lies But why remain in the past, here is an update------ Google "IDF shooting children" Five children who got longer sentences for throwing stones than Israeli ... www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East Feb 22, 2017 - An 18-month jail sentence handed down to an Israel Defence Force (IDF) recruit for the killing of a wounded Palestinian has prompted widespread criticism for its apparent leniency in light of the severity of his crime. Then 19-year-old medic Elor Azaria was found guilty of manslaughter for fatallyshooting ... Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child | World news | The ... News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's global edition | The Guardian › World › Israel Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing. Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314... May 14, 2016 - UNICEF warns of excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead. ... the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". 2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade | News | Al ... www.aljazeera.com/.../2016-deadliest-year-west-bank-children-decade-17010314502... Jan 5, 2017 - "Israeli soldiers employ a shoot-to-kill policy. They have the green light to kill Palestinians, and the fact that they can do so with impunity and no consequences builds the foundation for such shootings to take place," Ayed Abu Eqtaish, Accountability Programme Director at DCI-Palestine, told Al Jazeera. Israeli security forces 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months ... www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/25-palestinian-children-killed-in-3.../7415256 May 14, 2016 - UNICEF cited the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". "Israeli authorities said that she had attempted to stab a policeman, however an eyewitness stated that she ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under attack Edited May 21, 2018 by jamesdyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdyson Posted May 21, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 109 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Sojourner414 said: And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother’s son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. Where the Israelite's buried their great leaders says a lot. Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him [Israel] in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ; Genesis 50:14 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre. Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite, Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ; Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah. Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: Genesis 50:14 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre. Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father. You bury your great leaders in the land you call home so their graves will not be disturbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, jamesdyson said: NOTE: If the [text] is to small to read, just hold down the [CTRL] key while rolling you mouse roller up or down MOST of those links? You jest of course or you are lying to yourself. I have seen this kind of behavior before. Now we have Trump as our "President", the master of lies But why remain in the past, here is an update------ Most of the links were from 2003-04 and were simply no longer valid links. oogle "IDF shooting children" Quote Five children who got longer sentences for throwing stones than Israeli ... www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East Feb 22, 2017 - An 18-month jail sentence handed down to an Israel Defence Force (IDF) recruit for the killing of a wounded Palestinian has prompted widespread criticism for its apparent leniency in light of the severity of his crime. Then 19-year-old medic Elor Azaria was found guilty of manslaughter for fatallyshooting ... Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child | World news | The ... News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's global edition | The Guardian › World › Israel Nov 23, 2004 - Radio exchange contradicts army version of Gaza killing. Israel 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months | News | Al Jazeera www.aljazeera.com/.../israel-killed-25-palestinian-children-months-16051414083314... May 14, 2016 - UNICEF warns of excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead. ... the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". 2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade | News | Al ... www.aljazeera.com/.../2016-deadliest-year-west-bank-children-decade-17010314502... Jan 5, 2017 - "Israeli soldiers employ a shoot-to-kill policy. They have the green light to kill Palestinians, and the fact that they can do so with impunity and no consequences builds the foundation for such shootings to take place," Ayed Abu Eqtaish, Accountability Programme Director at DCI-Palestine, told Al Jazeera. Israeli security forces 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months ... www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/25-palestinian-children-killed-in-3.../7415256 May 14, 2016 - UNICEF cited the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed". "Israeli authorities said that she had attempted to stab a policeman, however an eyewitness stated that she ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under ... Israeli shoots dead Palestinian after group of children comes under attack Lot's of individual Israelis have been arrested for atrocities and found guilty the Israeli courts. The difference is that Israel doesn't do what the Palestinians do. The Palestinians celebrate their terrorist martyrs and turn them into veritable demigods. They name streets after them and make them objects of veneration and role models. Israel does not do that. It is also worth noting that when Palestinians are killed, the liberal media goes out of their way to omit the fact that the Palestinians are actually terrorists that belong to Hamas and Al Aqsa and other terror organizations in the West Bank and Gaza. They report the story as if it was just innocent, unarmed civilians who were killed. They purposely skew the facts to make Israel's defensive countermeasures against terrorism appear morally equivalent to Islamic terrorism. Some of the links you posted don't accurately represent the context of many of the events where Palestinian children are used as terrorists are sent out to kill or harm Israelis and are rightly killed as terrorists. They are not innocent children that were doing nothing wrong and an IDF soldier simply killed them in cold blood. So the fact is that Israel has no policy of terrorism, no policy of targeting Palestinians and they never give any orders to do such things. But the Palestinians do, because the Palestinians have a policy of destruction when it comes to Israel. The Palestinian charter is still the destruction of Israel. By way of analogy... I had a friend whose wife spent the money faster than he could make it and I remember one time she spent too much and bunch of checks bounced. Well due to the fees on the bounced checks, my friend didn't have enough money to pay the rent for that month. So she called her brother to borrow money and tells him, "Russell didn't pay the rent." She omitted the fact that SHE was the reason. She intentionally made Russell the object of her brother's anger. That is what is happening with the liberal media and how they deal with the conflict. They spin the stories and only tell half of the facts in order to make it appear that Israel is the aggressor instead of the reality that Israel is engaged with an enemy that is seeking their destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdyson Posted May 21, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 109 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 12 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 9 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Depends on who you ask I guess. I have the evidence that proves the Israeli's were the "first" to use terrorist acts to further their unjust cause. But by now you know you do not want to see the truth. It is best you leave this discussion and go back to where you came from. I say this for your sake, not mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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