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  1. I've heard it said, "When we take a truth and make it "thee" truth we turn it into a lie." For instance, holiness is a truth, if we focus on holiness making it our central truth we reach a point we no longer walk in truth but in our own abilities. Jesus is the truth and all truth is predicated upon Him. Jesus crucified, resurrected and coming again. Walk in the Spirit to not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Without Jesus, we can do nothing.
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    Homosexuality

    Your question comes from the effects of the spirit of the age. The zeitgeist is what it's called. Homosexuality is found through history in developed cultures having societies pondering life rather than doing needful survival actions every day. The perpetuation of the tribe so to speak. No indigenous tribe had ever been discovered that even the term homosexual in any sense was found in their language. Same-sex attraction is the result of the fall of man and is in no way connected to God creating it at all. We are blaming the wrong god, the god of this world or present age, the spirit of the age, the spirit of antichrist is responsible for this perversion. It's not found genetically, zoologically and medical science has yet to find anything at all. God created man, He created woman from man and man goes into the woman and procreates a third. We are created in Gods image and likeness. God is not a homosexual and to suggest He created humanity in this way is to say God is gay. The Bible speaks very clearly about sexual perversion. Man with man, the woman with a woman. We all struggle with sin in whatever it is that easily besets us, we all have one, a struggle. Any of our sins would send us where we all belong but save for the death and blood of Jesus Christ. The sin I struggle with may not be homosexuality but it will hamper my serving and growing in Jesus and without His grace put me in hell. Jesus came and told the truth because He loves us, He has asked us to pick up our cross and follow. In these days we can see how telling the truth got Him killed and the many who have followed. Christianity being popular has been an anomaly we have enjoyed for numerous generations in the west but that is fading. It just isn't homosexuality that will send us to hell but any sin. God is now and has been calling on all people everywhere to repent and He has appointed a man, Jesus the righteous, to judge the world. We are either influenced by the god of this world, the zeitgeist, or the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit. New age religions, psychology, philosophy, unity as in ecumenism are infiltrating the western church like a flood and along with it a push to "love" homosexuals by acceptance and condoning their actions but love without truth is not love. As the church bends and breaks on this issue the weaker it becomes and it losses its sense to reason and to be reasonable. Just like Gods people in the old covenant before Babylon, so it is today, before Babylon the Great. We don't stone homosexuals today or throw them off rooftops as some do in Muslim lands and we don't turn them away but when or if convicted by the Holy Spirit they will know what they are doing is wrong. Those are the opportunities for them to repent, I can't save or convict, as in spiritual conviction of heart, a homosexual. Only God can draw and save a person. We are asked to roll away the stone and help take off the dead mans clothes and help them maintain the garments of salvation. God calls a person to come out of the grave. We are all dead in sin and wear dead man's clothes like zombies until second birth. We either remain dead and head onto the second death or we become born again and have eternal life. It's a shame the church is breaking on sin issues in the name of some form of love but that is the sign of the times. Persecution is on the horizon in the west and much of the church is compromising. We need to love homosexuals by speaking the truth in love and that is a task difficult indeed. We all need to be saved, Jesus didn't come to save the righteous but the sinner.
  3. I agree, and something I've always wondered about is that Michaels life force was placed in the womb of Mary and according to their doctrine a body without life force is dead, non-existent, then Michael died. Just like the man Jesus is dead forever dead then Michael is dead, so why did Michael have to die? Is there a special life force for the angels like God has a special life force? In their doctrine, life force is life force, It can be switched from a cow to a person back and forth without distinction. So what is at the right hand of the Father? A Michael, Jesus, Michael spirit creature? Or what? How did the blood of a non-existent man atone for anything? Something they are good at though is using prophecy to engage conversation. Most churches that still have new believers being added to their numbers are prophecy preaching, "Repent, the kingdom of God is at hand, Jesus is coming." type churches. Using escatology in preaching the gospel. Peter on the day of Pentecost for example. The JWs are schooled in it. Preaching the gospel of the kingdom and following those instructions but their gospel is false. Those that do the same with the true gospel bear fruit. New believers are growth, not people leaving church A for church B. It's good leaving a bad church for a good church but adding to the numbers is people being saved, the second birth, being born again. Praise God for believers coming together but we need to be a people that can make it rain, just like Elijah. He was a man like unto us and he could make it rain. But he went through a time of no rain completely dependant on Gods provision before being called into a major confrontation with leadership and false prophets before a small cloud formed that grew and grew. Something to think about anyway.
  4. If we know their error well enough we can engage a conversation that leads to asking them questions about what they believe. I've done this with JWs. Our faith is a reasonable faith, it's rational. Theirs is not. Get them questioning their own faith just like Satan does with believers and then pray. We may be 12th in the line of 3 more houses that get them questioning enough to ask God for the truth. Jesus said be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. Edit to add, I've heard this technique referred to as using their sword to cut their head off. Like David did with Goliath. The Word of God between the eyes and their own book to finish. The five stones representing the law, the first five books of the Bible.
  5. I've learned sincerity to be a major heart issue first step. People can sense sincerity. I was taught some years ago if you find yourself in a wrong attitude it's best to not engage. It's a part of the being ready to give an answer to the hope that is in us. Sometimes we can do more harm than good. Then it's situational, someone you meet for a short period of time in a number of scenarios to a person at work or in fellowship with, where a relationship is involved and then what is actually really difficult is a family member. The truth is going to divide but it can draw also. If we love and are sincere at least we may be heard. Jesus at the well with the Samaritan woman is good scripture to look at in dealing with someone in error. He told the truth, was sincere and loved her. And unless God draws someone there is no chance. Elijah was a man like unto us and he could make it rain. We need to be praying for and discerning the working of the Holy Spirit. To love someone enough to lay ourselves in what can be harm's way isn't always very easy.
  6. No need to apologize. There are things to discover. Everything has been written for further understanding of the text. It's theological. The Bible is history and literature with stories but they are written for a reason. John states he wrote the things he did so that the readers would believe Jesus is the Christ. They aren't just random stories for a moral lesson or motivational pick me ups but specific events chosen by the Holy Spirit for our learning. We see a separation of light and dark in John and a separation of the light and dark in the old creation. God did a divine work with water on the third day in the old creation and in John, God does a divine work with water on the third day. These types of patterns are a style John uses in his gospel account. It's a Midrash on the old creation. The miracles are very salvation themed also, with Lazarus Jesus commanded remove the stone, evangelism, be witnesses unto me, then Jesus called him forth, only God can save, and then Jesus commanded them to remove the garments, make disciples of all nations. Take off those dead man clothes and put on the garment of salvation. Jude speaks of pulling our brother out of the fire hating the garment spotted with the flesh. Everything follows doctrine, nothing Jesus did was of no importance. Just because we don't see or understand doesn't mean more meaning doesn't exist. Types illuminate doctrine, we don't make doctrine from typology but the typology plays out or shows forth doctrine. The very actions and words of Jesus fulfilled scripture. He is the word manifest in the flesh.
  7. Every push for peace ends in a war in this situation. That's why I think it will take a horrible event to bring about the atmosphere to have a type of peace, false peace, needed for the ultimate deception. It took the murder of millions of Jews to open the door for their return, empathy for a moment in time. Not that it would be something like that but an event that would shake a change in the world's perspective on the situation. Trump is trying things from a different approach but it seems the rhythms of terrorists are unpersuaded.
  8. There is a Midrashic aspect of the miracle, Johns gospel begins using the narrative of the old creation as a setting for the new creation. "In the beginning God". "In the beginning was the Word". The third day God did a miracle with water in the old creation and on the third day God does a miracle with water in the new. God began with a wedding of man and woman and God began His public ministry with a wedding. The tradition of the Jews was to have weddings on Tuesday because it's the day of double blessing. God didn't say it was good on the second day of creation but said it was good twice on the third day. There are other nuances like the small light being John the Baptist and the larger light Jesus. Johns gospel is very Jewish and he said he wrote it evangelistic, he wrote the specific things so they would believe. Jn 20:31 From what I understand a Jew reading his gospel account in the first and second century would have understood the style and proof of Jesus being the Messiah literally fulfilling all things. It's in Johns gospel where we read Golgatha and the tomb are in garden areas. Jesus was betrayed in a garden. Everything began in a garden and the ultimate price was paid in a garden. I'm not sure where you're heading with this but look forward to reading it. There are always wonderful aspects to grow by.
  9. And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your Kingdom." And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in paradise." Luke 23:42,43 We may not fully understand a timeless eternity compared to our time ordered temporal life. But the above seems like a clear scripture to me. Our bodies do die and decay but it would seem we will be conscious of what Jesus calls Paradise until we put on our new bodies at the resurrection. I mentioned before about Paul being taken up and his uncertainty of how that was all coming about but he was conscious of what he saw. I also mentioned before that the sum of the word is true.
  10. Jesus claimed the thief being crucified next to him would be with Him in paradise that day. Your explanation sounds like it's from adjusted Watch Tower teaching without the quotes and terms from Chaz Russell, "The man Jesus is dead, forever dead." and "A body without life force is non-existent." We are made in the image and likeness of God. God created man, He created woman from man and man goes into a woman and procreates a third. The unity God had with humanity was corrupted and death entered in. Through the disobedience of one man sin entered and death came but through the obedience and shed blood of another, Jesus the righteous, we have eternal life. Sometimes understanding is very simplistic and glorious but we need to remember that it's the sum of the word that is true. Paul speaks of being absent from the body to be present with the Lord in 2Cor. 5 and when he was taken up to the third heaven he really couldn't say he understood what was happening but what he saw was beyond description. What Paul experienced in not knowing how all that was taking place is a good example or piece of what it will be like, a conscience presents, sort of like our conscience when we sleep. But without the confusions and nightmares. I believe it's why sleep terminology is used. So what you are saying is we don't exist when we die. Non-existent?
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  12. Hi, how you doing there, Zebulun was a people that despised their lives even unto death, and Naphtali also, on the high places of the field. Judges 5:18 This was the area where Jesus spent most of His ministry and chose His disciples from, His base of operation so to speak. Zebulun and Naphtali, Galilee of the Gentiles. From Nazareth Mt. Tabor is seen in the distance about a days walk where Barak and Debra mounted their campaign for the battle and Naphtali and Zebulun came when called but others stayed on the side. Now when He heard John had been taken into custody, He withdrew into Galilee; and leaving Nazareth, He came and settled in Capernaum, which is by the sea, in the region of Zebulun and Naphtali. Matth. 4:12,13 It was His home turf. Despising our lives in this world is another way of saying "Love not the world or the things of this world" or "Friendship with the world is enmity toward God" or "For whoever wishes to save his life shall lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake shall find it." These statements may have different contexts but have a theological connection. A constant theme in the teachings of Jesus and a reputation biblically of the people He chose to dwell among. And by the world, I don't mean earth. But this present age, as in, "This world is still in the hands of the wicked." 1John 5
  13. Well, you can use part of what I said to make a point but it misses the spirit of what I had written overall. ebooks do come from books and are less expensive because I would think anyway are not a hard copy, but the platform of anything needs to be supported somehow. Like I said, using discernment in what you read is important and usually honest ministries will not over price and will even give freely when it's right and proper to do so. But no organization is without a few mistakes in judgement and we need to take into account the reality of the world we live in. Jesus freely taught and called His disciples not asking for money to do so. In that spirit, I can understand what you're saying. Churches that demand tithing need to check themselves. They may be over-invested and unbalanced. Some people will struggle to pay their own rent or mortgage during lean times. So writing a Christain book or doing teaching conferences to 'make' money is a wrong motive and God will hold them accountable. But others write and teach because God has called them to it and they have a passion for the truth and for the sheep. These books tend to be as affordable as possible to cover the costs and speaking engagements set on love offerings. And I've known speakers to leave the money behind because the people obviously had more need of it than them. Most so-called Christian books today aren't worth the paper they're written on. "Ten Keys to Prosperity" - garbage like that. But Jesus and His disciples took donations and it would seem also by the way the disciples cared about the costly oil that could have been sold, engaged in raising money, and for whom? The poor. The disciples needed to eat also. But Judas took from the cash on hand, he was a thief and a lier. This world is a mess and we need to ethically and morally do our best where God has called us.
  14. Some writers use the proceeds to fund missions of the ministry they are partnered with and never touch a profit so to speak. But publishers need to run a business and paper isn't free or the rent in the stores who sell the books. Many people volunteer in editing and proofreading. Writing is very laborious especially to those who are called as teachers and pastors. Engaging with people is where their hearts are not cut off in a room. It's why books can take years to finish and many times not at all. I think holding back teaching CDs or printed material because a person is unable to afford them is wrong. Those of us who have the means to purchase should because solid ministries give freely. Those who purchase and give extra to a ministry help supply teaching materials, Bibles and books to those that are less fortunate. So some ministries have built on the concept of freely receive freely give but rent, food, travel, publishing, isn't free. If music, books, teaching CDs are part of a "Christian Industry" instead of a Christian Ministry then I agree in part with you, don't buy them. But usually good teaching, good books are a part of good ministry. I went last minute to a midweek study years ago and had forgotten my wallet in the rush. The speaker was profound so I went to the table their ministry had set up looking over the tapes and grabbing information when the man running the table asked what subject matter I was into at the moment and I said I was in such a hurry to get out of the house I forgot my wallet and he smiled and said "Freely receive, freely give. Take what you want." I still give to that ministry at times and it's been a few decades now. They have an aids orphanage in South Africa, plant churches, help the poor and supply schools for their children in a number of countries. It's not a huge ministry and mostly small communities but except for the orphanage leader, school teachers and a few missionaries, no one else receives any salaries, the administrators in any country or the head of the ministry itself do not receive pay. Travel costs are covered but most everyone makes tents so to speak. All book and tape proceeds go into these diverse ministries and the production of more materials. So ya in a perfect world everything is free, but this is not a perfect world. People need to work and people need money. Nothing wrong with money, just our attitude toward it. Fallen man is the problem. What's important is the content of the book and what ministry is the writer attached to? Discernment. At this point, I will not spend a dime on NT Wright material. I've listened to hours on the web and read a book given to me written by him but will not lend any help in that direction. I'll read his material and listen for discernment purposes only if it is free. The Lord's money needs to go to real ministry. Not some hierarchical gibber jab of intellectual hogwash ecumenism whitewashed sepulchre oxford accented politically motivated speech. But that's just me. We all have choices to make.
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