This is why I am here, how about you?

[Guest shiloh357]

2 minutes ago, jamesdyson said:

I was baiting you to make just such a request. I will give you a warning, make this request again and I will be forced to comply

Do it.  Provide the source for your claim.

Edited May 20, 2018 by shiloh357

[Guest shiloh357]

If the Palestinians have no weapons, what are they using when they arm their suicide bombers?   Where did they get the bombs to tie kites and drop the bombs on Israel, last week?

[jamesdyson]

3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Those rocks are slung by the old style slings of the same style that were used in biblical times.  Those rocks are hurled at the speeds similar projectiles coming from guns and are just as deadly.  If you were hit in the head, they would kill you dead on the spot. 

I do believe the boy knocked out one of the machine guns  on that tank. So I admit you are right and I was wrong.

thanks 

[Guest shiloh357]

5 minutes ago, jamesdyson said:

I do believe the boy knocked out one of the machine guns  on that tank. So I admit you are right and I was wrong.

thanks 

Yes, still waiting on that source you claimed to have...

[jamesdyson]

7 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Do it.  Provide the source for your claim.

ask and you shall receive

 

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes

Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000

http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed

By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,

and Haaretz Service

Thu., October 28, 2004

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

 UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza

By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP

Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765

 An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit  a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

 United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary

Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's

Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School  in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

In March 2003

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

 Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.

http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

 Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

5 June 2004

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

 An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends

http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die

September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

 Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.

 28 July 2003

 She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,

'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy  fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

Tuesday December 23, 2003

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112055,00.html

 Israel Baby is born then dies

September 11, 2003

 Birth and death at the checkpoint

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

 Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy

Siege off Nablus
January, 2004

 15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back.  He died on his way to the hospital. The second is  Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

 Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

5 June 2004

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

15 year old boy &  Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

 An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends

http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets  and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead

 Tue., October 05, 2004

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html

http://tinyurl.com/8rmn2g3

 

 

 

[jamesdyson]

4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Yes, still waiting on that source you claimed to have...

Google "IDF shooting children" for updates

[jamesdyson]

I found another photo proving your point once again. This time the men in the tank jumped out and ran away

Edited May 20, 2018 by jamesdyson

[Guest shiloh357]

 

10 minutes ago, jamesdyson said:

ask and you shall receive

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes

Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000

http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

 

That was proven to be a staged attack.  The Palestinians could not produce the dead body of Mahammad Al Dura.

Quote

 

Gaza girl said killed

By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,

and Haaretz Service

Thu., October 28, 2004

IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

 

That page doesn't exist. 

Most stories like that were abandoned by the media because they were found to be untrue or were skewed factually.   The Palestinians claimed a lot of deaths that never happened.   And they blamed Israel for murders that were actually done by the Palestinians against other Palestinians.   
 

Quote

 

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza

By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP

Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765

 An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit  a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

 United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary

Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's

Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School  in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank

In March 2003

12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

 Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.

http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

 Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

5 June 2004

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

 An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends

http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Boy of 17, shot by Israeli soldiers, left bleeding overnight to die

September 8, 2003
The bullet ridden corpse of Mohammad Abdullah Abu al-Husni, was found yesterday morning near the town of Jabaliya, where he lived in Gaza.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/updates/left_to_die.htm

 Haneen, who was eight years old, had been shot twice in the head by an Israeli soldier as she walked down the street in Khan Yunis refugee camp with her mother.

 28 July 2003

 She was coming down the street and ran to me and hugged me, crying,

'Mother, mother'. Two bullets hit her in the head, one straight after the other.

She was still in my arms and she died."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html

This boy was in his own house and an IDF soldier barges into the house and shoots him dead Mohammed a 7-year-old boy  fell dead, still clutching his piece of bread.

Tuesday December 23, 2003

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1112055,00.html

 Israel Baby is born then dies

September 11, 2003

 Birth and death at the checkpoint

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/338937.html

 Three shot in the back by Israeli snipers, one a 15-year-old boy

Siege off Nablus
January, 2004

 15 year old boy who was shot while standing in front of his house. The sniper bulet hit Amjad in the back.  He died on his way to the hospital. The second is  Amer Kathym Arafat who was also shot in the back by a sniper bullet. The third is Rouhi Hazem Shouman, 25, who was also shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

 Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.

5 June 2004

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

15 year old boy &  Amer Kathym & Rouhi Hazem Shouman all shot in the back by a sniper.

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/appeals/lift_the_siege.htm

 An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends

http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

IDF shoots 13-year-old girl in the back with 20 bullets  and then the IDF commander goes over to the girl and shoots her again to make sure she was dead

 Tue., October 05, 2004

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/485274.html

“I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport."

http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/children.html

http://tinyurl.com/8rmn2g3

 

Most of those links are from 2003-04 at the height of the propaganda war against Israel.  The media reports what the Palestinians claimed happened and Israel is guilty until proven innocent.  I cannot verify or deny the claims made in them since I cannot read the articles.

Most of the stories are not actually true, or they omit context, such as the fact that even children are accidental victims, not the targets of Israeli actions.   The Palestinians, even now, use little children as cannon fodder and purposely situate them in harm's way knowing that they will be killed one way or the other, and if they are injured they are denied medical care in order to ramp up the fatality rates.   Israel gets the blame in the media because Hamas's actions are ignored. 

All that is reported is that Israeli gun fire killed a Palestinian.   The fact that the Palestinian was a terrorist who was in the process of carrying an attack and Israel neutralized that threat.   A child is killed by Israeli gun fire, but it is omitted that the child was collateral damage due to a ricocheting bullet or bomb shrapnel by a bomb detonated by Hamas or Fatah.   There are a lot of details that are omitted in the stories you cite above, that I cannot check since they are expired and have been removed. 

The Palestinians are not victims of Israel.  They are victims of their own government, Hamas.  Hamas is a terrorist organization and they rely on gullible people like you who don't really fact check and just buy any lie they put forth. 

I have been studying this conflict for 30 years and have forgotten more than you will ever know about it.   I have seen how many times the Palestinians will outright lie about casualty rates and will lie about attacks on Palestinians when it was Palestinians that were actually doing the killing.   Palestinians murder each other.  Yasir Arafat had anyone murdered that questioned the use of terrorism.   In fact, no one gives any air time to how many Palestinians die at the hands of Hamas.

Hamas murders Christian Palestinians all of the time, and no one cares about that.  Christian Palestinians were run out of their homes in Bethlehem by the PLO nearly 20 years ago, and nothing was said about it.  Hamas brutalizes their own people, and denies them medical care and humanitarian aid sent in by Israel.   People like you ignore those facts. 

[Guest shiloh357]

2 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said:

Oh, you mean this pic?

Sorta makes it hard to claim that when kids get hurt that they were just hapless, innocent victims, doesn't it?

[Guest shiloh357]

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 2:43 PM, jamesdyson said:

This has nothing to do with Israel’s neighbors. The is about the Lord & the Israeli’s and none other.

God set out things they must do to get His grace and God stated what would happen if they failed to follow His commandments. History has shown us that they ignored His teaching over and over and continue to do so. It has been spoken, Israel will be removed and no more remembered; end of story.

No,  It's too bad you don't read your Bible very well.   Here is the  "end of the story:"   >>>  "And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."(Amo 9:14-15)
 

Israel will not be removed and they will always be remembered according to Amos.  Not only that, there's this: >>>  "Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever."  (Jer 31:35-36)

So, according to the Lord, as long the sun and the moon and stars exist, Israel will remain and will continue being His people.   Last I checked the sun and moon and stars are still up there, so God has not forgotten His people, Israel.