The Two Party System

[JohnD]

I am 60 years old in a few weeks. I have personally seen the transformation

of both major political parties in America. Neither one are the political parties

of your parents, grandparents, or great grandparents.

 

Fascism is the result of either extreme (Communism  or Feudalism): the benefit of the elite at the expense of the many. 

The most idealistic position is the balance of both extremes (Fair Market Free Enterprise) where the most people benefit.

This happy medium is often mischaracterized  as compromise / middle of the road / sitting on the fence... but again, it is

the BALANCE of both sides as so very much of life is balance!

For example: if the earth were any closer or further away from the sun life

would not be possible.   Balance!

 

In time past, the Republican Party was touted as the rich man's party. And the Democratic

party as that of the working man and the poor.  As the LEGAL results of the recent election

has shown... the distinction between the two major parties have become pro-America (Republican)

anti-American (Democrat). Which explains how and why so many Democrats (even generational

Democrats) are either voting Republican or actually becoming Republican.

Working class people, people of color, etc. all realizing what is at stake is American Liberty versus

American Socialism. And that the party who truly represents them since the Trump victory of 2016

is the revamped Republican Party.  And the greatest threat to American prosperity and liberty is the

revamped Democratic party.

 

 

[JohnD]

The Trump Movement / effect on both political parties and the Social Pendulum

[SavedByGrace1981]

Respectfully, I have a different take on take on the two parties.  The democrat party is more akin to a secular religion.  It has its saints and deities (e.g. Ruth Bader Ginzburg, FDR, Obama). It has a belief system that requires blind faith of its adherents in given situations, even when they are presented with overwhelming facts to the contrary.  It requires lockstep obedience - it is extremely rare for a dem to "wander off the reservation" and, when one does, he/she is immediately shamed and shunned.  And while the R party (which I'll address momentarily) has its wanna be dems like Romney, Ryan and the late John McCain; there is no equivalent for the Ds.

Whatever 'division' there is in the democrat party today is between "left/socialist" (Pelosi, Biden) and "far left/totalitarian" (the so-called squad).  Since the days of Bill Clinton, the D party has morphed into the party of Corporations and Wall St. 

So what about the republicans?  First, one has to differentiate the R party pre-Trump vs. the R party post Trump.  Pre-Trump, the Rs were perfectly happy to be "number two".  They don't fight (except to get us into no-win wars).  They are perfectly happy to be in the minority - after all, the few Rs there were still get the nice offices and the other perks of power, without having to lead. And in close issues, there is always at least one republican who can be counted on to thwart victory by joining with the dems.  See the aformentioned John McCain or John Roberts (re: Obamacare ruling in 2012).

Donald Trump has shown the Rs how to win.  The sad fact is - "winning" to many Rs is apparently not important.  In fact, it is unclear what IS important to republicans.  

Yes, Trump is abrasive and yes his demeanor and tweeting turns off many.  I believe a valid criticism is that he didn't strive to expand his base during his first term by toning things down.  I believe that cost him support and likely the election. That is too bad, as it has apparently (pending several lawsuits) resulted in a Harris/Biden administration.

And that will be bad for all of us.

Edited November 28, 2020 by SavedByGrace1981