JohnS Posted August 27, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 193 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1965 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Why do consistently ignore the Palestinian statements that are all over the media that make it clear that a two state solution is not workable and they will not accept such a solution? The two-state solution only exists in the dreamland of the left. It is not a workable solution because it is not a solution. It will only provide a launching pad for more terrorism against Israel, as we are already seeing from the most current statements out of Hamas and the P.A. You need to wake up and live in the real world. Why do you favor a "two-state solution" when the P.A. has made it clear over the years, that another Arab state in the region would only serve as another step to the destruction Israel? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted August 27, 2005 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 27, 2005 Why do consistently ignore the Palestinian statements that are all over the media that make it clear that a two state solution is not workable and they will not accept such a solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted August 27, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted August 27, 2005 If it doesn't speak for the majority, why is it being allowed into the government? Again Armor, do you know nothing about the history of Hamas? It was founded by Egyptians and funded by the Egyptian army...it wasn't "palestinians" that formed it out of frustration of living in camps....camps they chose to live in and their Arab neighbors forced them into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted August 27, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 193 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1965 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Talking to Gaza's Hamas leader Asharq Al-Awsat: Israelis fear that Gaza could become "Hamasland" after the withdrawal. Mahmoud Zahar:Let Israel die. Q: Have you prepared to enter the settlements? A: We will enter the settlements and sully the dignity of Israel with our feet. We will stand on the ruins of the Israeli settlements and tell our people we have prevailed. This is nonnegotiable. We will secure the Gaza Strip and prevent anyone from occupying it again. In past experiences, government land was stolen. The land of the evacuated settlements should serve as the lungs for the economy to breathe. Schools, playgrounds, agriculture and industry should be established on this land. This is our position, which we expressed in the meeting of the national committee formed to oversee the withdrawal. The government to be formed after the elections will determine the future of this land. Q: In other words, there is an agreement between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas about the future of the settlements' land. A: Yes. The Palestinian Authority has the right to manage the land after consulting with the committee which consists of representatives of the national and Islamic factions. Q: Is there a plan for Hamas leaders abroad to return to Gaza? A: ...This is up to them. However, the Hamas movement has international dimensions and relations that it must maintain. Therefore, those who maintain these relations must stay abroad... From an August 18 interview in the Pan-Arab Saudi daily Asharq Al-Awsat, published in London. Translated and disseminated by The Middle East Media Research Institute. www.memri.org http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pag...d=1124590922663 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted August 27, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 193 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/28/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1965 Share Posted August 27, 2005 The following are excerpts from an interview with Sheik Muhammad Ali, deputy head of the Palestinian Clerics Association, which aired on Al-Manar TV on August 19, 2005. Sheik Muhammad Ali: The Prophet Muhammad foretold in a hadith that "Judgment Day would come only when the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims would kill the Jews, and the rock and tree would say: 'Oh, Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew' - of course he was referring to the occupying Zionist Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 If it doesn't speak for the majority, why is it being allowed into the government? Again Armor, do you know nothing about the history of Hamas? It was founded by Egyptians and funded by the Egyptian army...it wasn't "palestinians" that formed it out of frustration of living in camps....camps they chose to live in and their Arab neighbors forced them into. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha! amor doesn't understand what is going on. He ignores the fact that it is the entire PA government that is calling for the destruction of Israel. He wants to paint it as the words of a few fanatics, Mahmoud Abbas, just like Arafat, is calling for the "liberation" of the entire region of the nation of Israel. amor just refuses to face facts. He prefers to ignore the truth and live in his liberal leftist fantasyland. It is a FACT that the PA is not going to remove the call for Israel's destruction from its charter, and that they are now allowing Hamas into the government. It shows that they are in step with the goals of Hamas and are unified in their cause to destroy Israel as opposed to the "peace" amor fantasizes will occur despite Arab remarks to the opposite. You see, if amor can't pretend that it is just a bunch of fanatics calling for Israel's destruction, he can't claim that our rejection to the PA desire for their own state is just a fundamentalist Zionist form of fanaticism. If the threat is certifiable, and it can be shown to be representative of the majority of the Palestinian entity, all of a sudden the Jews actually have a point, and are reacting to a genuine threat to their well-being. It then becomes apparent that their rejection of a Palestinian state has legitimate, and not fanatical reasons, and that is just too much for liberal, leftist pride to absorb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amor Posted September 1, 2005 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,194 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/18/2004 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 If it doesn't speak for the majority, why is it being allowed into the government? Again Armor, do you know nothing about the history of Hamas? It was founded by Egyptians and funded by the Egyptian army...it wasn't "palestinians" that formed it out of frustration of living in camps....camps they chose to live in and their Arab neighbors forced them into. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha! amor doesn't understand what is going on. He ignores the fact that it is the entire PA government that is calling for the destruction of Israel.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Except their not are they, which is one of the reasons Hamas is not too keen on them, and why so many Israeli's are willing to cooperate and negotiate with them. As always unsubstantiated claims made in support of your own extremist fanatical agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Except their not are they, You should read the articles coming out of the Middle East newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 If it doesn't speak for the majority, why is it being allowed into the government? Again Armor, do you know nothing about the history of Hamas? It was founded by Egyptians and funded by the Egyptian army...it wasn't "palestinians" that formed it out of frustration of living in camps....camps they chose to live in and their Arab neighbors forced them into. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha! amor doesn't understand what is going on. He ignores the fact that it is the entire PA government that is calling for the destruction of Israel.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Except their not are they, which is one of the reasons Hamas is not too keen on them, and why so many Israeli's are willing to cooperate and negotiate with them. As always unsubstantiated claims made in support of your own extremist fanatical agenda. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually they are, amor. You are living in a state of denial. Israel withdrew from Gaza BECAUSE they are not willing to negotiate with them any longer. It was a unilatateral withdraw not a negotiated withdrawl. Furthermore, even the PA charter has not been altered to remove the call for the destruction of Israel. Hamas is calling for Israel's destruction and Abbas is offering them seats in His government. You need to wake up and live in the real world. One day, you might acutally know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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