amor

We were persecuted in England both by the Commonwealth (the republic that existed during the mid seventh century) and the restored monarchy. We were persecuted and murdered by the Calvinist Puritan regime that was in power in Boston. Penn founded Pennsylvania as a colony where there would be religious freedom and no persecution.

In Boston in was done on accordance with the text under discussion here which is why,my comments are relevant.

Of course if you view these as omissions then you would see the NIV as being at fault, if you see them rather as the removal of very early additions then you would see the KJV as being in error. Dealing with variations in ancient texts is difficult.

It states that "civilian magistrates" have the right to have people tried for heresy. This resulied in Mary Dyer and two other Quakers being hanged by the colonial puritan government in Bostonl, for the crime of preaching.

In this post you accept that thePalestinians are involved in resistance. As to your second point supporting the. Rights ofPalestinians in the occupied territories and being involved in ISM in no way links you with supporting ISIS. It's just a way of denigrating someone you disagree with

Resistance I'd not antisemitism, though. Neither is campaigning for a juster world

You must be young in age. I remember many Christians saying the same thing about abortion in 1972. Now that's funny. GE, young of age? LOL (No offence Golden Eagle.) Your comment would seem to imply that churches on the USA are obliged yo perform abortions. As thing is not the case, what is the point you're trying to make? A Question to tiger eye,obviously

Nasty stuff Shiloh.

One of the prospective partners should propose

Zimmerman didn't chase him down in order to shoot him. Zimmerman shot him after he was overpowered by Martin and Martin had Zimmerman on the ground. Zimmerman shot out of self defense while in fear of his life. So Martin should have waited to see what they crazy guy chasing him was going to do.

1. Hundreds are currently being killed in Gaza. Not genocide but vile and unjustifiable 2.Isael does have nuclear weapons. It's not something they're coy about. 3. Palestinians clearly are being oppressed. Living under occupation is oppressive. Seeing your children blown to bits s pretty oppresive. Having your land expropriated is oppresive. 1/ Yes hundreds are being killed in Gaza, but because of Hamas not Israel - so that's lie number one. 2/ Israel does have nukes but they're not being used - so that's a half lie. An irrelevant point designed to mislead. 3/ Palestinians are oppressed because of Hamas not because of Israel - so that's another lie. Well Hamas are vile, but it's the IDF who are killing Gazans As you concede they have nuclear arms, so it's odd to object to this being pointed out As to the third point just turn on the TV over 100 people killed today. Including 13 Israeli soldiers sent to die to make a political point. We both also know that when the killing stops Hamas will still run Gaza and Bibi will still be Israeli Prime Minister and lots of ordinary people will be dead mostly Palestinians but a few Israeli soldiers as well. And the politicians on both will crow about their Martyrs while the latter rot in their graves and their families weep.

Then Hamas shouldn't be picking fights with Israel. Hamas called down the thunder. They are not victims. They provoked Israel to respond. You didn't care when it was just Hamas firing on Israelis. Suddenly you find your outrage when Israel decides it is time to fight back. But you're not anti-Semitic, right??? I care when pewople start dying. Does that make me an anti-semite? As always when you start losing an argument you turn to personal defamation in an attempt to get the thread closed down. I can't understand why you can't debate without resorting to insults andlies.

300 accidents a tenth of the number killed on 9/11. One Israeli killed by Hamas rockets.

Should they be loved less than Christians or Jews? Are their lives worth less?

Here is the call transcript (it includes some swearing) clearly Zimmerman chases Martin before he shot him *** Do not post links to documentation you know has swearing in it. ***

Such a Christian attitud!!. Is protesting against slaughter such a bad thing to do? No,amor - they were lying. What lies when? I saw a video clip of the demo which I can't post here for obvious reasons and they were blatantly lying (or seriously misinformed). You have a keyboard you can tell us what the lies were

1. Hundreds are currently being killed in Gaza. Not genocide but vile and unjustifiable 2.Isael does have nuclear weapons. It's not something they're coy about. 3. Palestinians clearly are being oppressed. Living under occupation is oppressive. Seeing your children blown to bits s pretty oppresive. Having your land expropriated is oppresive.

Such a Christian attitud!!. Is protesting against slaughter such a bad thing to do? No,amor - they were lying. What lies when?

Quite a lot of Muslims but still a minority, at least from where I was. What's irrational about protesting against the murder of civillians

Such a Christian attitud!!. Is protesting against slaughter such a bad thing to do?

And how many people have been klled by Hamas rockets? The Israelis swat Hamas rockets like flies. Palestinians sadly do not have an iron shield to protect them

So you can shoot suspected criminals rather than chop their hands off? These people are being charged for attempting to punish alleged criminals. Whilst down in Florida the police seem to condone and encourage such behaviour ___ Here we go again, with you defending Islam, amor. Muslims were enacting Sharia law which is unconstitutional and is not legal to do in this country. We don't punish people who steal by cutting off their hands. If someone steals, we have a system set up to try and punish such offenders. It is illegal and criminal in and of itself to impose Sharia law in the United Sates. So yes we should punish those who attempt to impose Sharia law. This is not a Muslim country and we are not going to tolerate Sharia law. The man down in Florida was defending and protecting His son from a child molester. It had nothing to do with shooting anyone. The father was right in what he did. He was protecting the welfare of his son and the molester got what he deserved. If I had a son and someone tried to harm him, the person harming him would meet with unfortunate consequences. I'm not defending the mad Mullahs of Philadelphia who are facing prosecution, merely highlighting a double standard with regard to taking the law into ones own hands. Would you accept that if your "unfortunate consequences" went beyond "reasonable force" you would yourself have committed a crime and should face prosecution? The gun reference was with regard to Other Ones comment - that's quite clear from the context, so there is no need to muddy the waters. To be honest, as far as I can see, at least in the South, US gun laws seem to give paranoid crazies like George Zimmerman a licence to kill. George Zimmerman was found not guilty in a court of law and was NOT a paranoid gun crazy. People seem to forget that he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defence. Martin was bashing Zimmerman's skull into the pavement at the time when Zimmerman drew his gun and shot him. Remember the adage 'innocent until proven guilty' and that includes 'innocent when proven innocent'. I can't see how you can possibly defend Martin over Zimmerman when Martin was a a known violent thug who had a previous criminal record for a number of offences. But I expect you'd have preferred it if Zimmerman had been unable to defend himself and had ended up being bashed into unconsciousness. fairly easily Zimmerman chased Martin not vice-versa Zimmerman had a gun Martin didn't. Martin didn't had a criminal record. Maybe both were victims of US absurd gun laws

Hamas is Sunni, but not all Sunni Palestinians are Hamas supporters and not all Palestinians are Sunni. Christian Palestinians in Gaza face the same IDF rockets as Muslim Palestinians and, indeed, Christian and Muslim Israelis face the same Hamas rockets as Jewish Israelis do. i The IDF rockets are not targetted at humans but unfortunately Hamas deliberately put their own citizens in the line of fire. What are they targeted at then? Because they've managed to murder hundreds. This is a small densely populated area with sealed borders.These are normal people like you or me living in constant fear.

Hamas is Sunni, but not all Sunni Palestinians are Hamas supporters and not all Palestinians are Sunni. Christian Palestinians in Gaza face the same IDF rockets as Muslim Palestinians and, indeed, Christian and Muslim Israelis face the same Hamas rockets as Jewish Israelis do. i

How exactly should it have been put to an end? Would you have advocated the use of violence? They should have put an end to Islam when it was spreading itself by the sword and through murder, rape and domination/subjugation centuries ago. Nations should have risen up and stamped Islam out. Islam is a bloodthirsty, demonic ideology that has one goal and that is to subjugate by force the entire world to Islam and Sharia Law. But wasn't Christianity reimposed on Spain at the point of a sword? Weren't the Americas and Australia "Christianised" by a process of murder, rape, genocide,expropriation and subjugation? There are many posters here from the South of the USA. Do you ever think about the indigenous people who where driven off the land and murdered by your Christian predecessors. How do you reconcile your deep Bible belt Christian tradition with the Southern racism and slavery that preceded it? The British, French, Spanish and Portuguese built empires that stole and slaughtered in the name of Jesus. Is that anything for ust o be proud of?