dad2 Posted April 25 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,509 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 25 10 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Any miracle not in scripture is unscriptural. All those miracles you claim whenever your false beliefs are refuted by evidence are unscriptural miracles. Like that. If such inventions are permitted, then all stories are equally plausible. The differences in fundamental life on earth such as the length of lives of men and how fast trees grew are in the bible. Nothing 'extra' about the record there. Giving science a little credit for some basics, we know that the continents moved a lot. The bible does give us the approximate timelines involved since the beginning so we know this separation had to happen inside that time. Nothing extra about it. Sorry if you thought you got to wave it all away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 25 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,509 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 25 On 10/16/2023 at 10:07 AM, ayin jade said: I doubt anyone here has ever dealt with radioactive dating ... I have. I used to take carbon 14 samples from archaeological sites and deal with the resulting data. At least 1/4 of all results were tossed out because they did not match the expected data, the results that researchers wanted. I know of sites in alaska that the primary researcher/archaeologist told me routinely dated 50,000 years in the future so they could not do any radioactive dating up there. Radioactive dating is flawed and often just based on assumptions. Yes. But even if it were not flawed, it only works a relatively few thousand years. For that time we have had radioactive decay. Beyond that, we don't know. Therefore the ratios cannot be all attributed to decay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted April 25 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,063 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, dad2 said: The differences in fundamental life on earth such as the length of lives of men and how fast trees grew are in the bible. The Bible says "Three score and ten." Which is a little below what we have today. Even if God lengthened the lives of some people, He kept the average live span down to less than we have. 4 minutes ago, dad2 said: Yes. But even if it were not flawed, it only works a relatively few thousand years. For that time we have had radioactive decay. Beyond that, we don't know. Therefore the ratios cannot be all attributed to decay Why not just let it be God's way, and stop trying to "fix" things that you don't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted April 25 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,063 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, dad2 said: At least 1/4 of all results were tossed out because they did not match the expected data, the results that researchers wanted. I know of sites in alaska that the primary researcher/archaeologist told me routinely dated 50,000 years in the future so they could not do any radioactive dating up there. That would be impossible. You couldn't get more C-14 than 100% of new plant growth. Someone was pulling your leg on that one. There are ways to mess up analyses; ancient campfires are contaminated with groundwater, you could get false older results. Organisms that get carbon from geologic sources, like mollusks or their predators, can also give incorrect dates. No one who knows anything about carbon dating would fail to know that. However, you can't use carbon dating for paleontology, since its half-life is so short. Anyone familiar with geochronology would know that,too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 25 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,509 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, The Barbarian said: The Bible says "Three score and ten." Which is a little below what we have today. Even if God lengthened the lives of some people, He kept the average live span down to less than we have. Why not just let it be God's way, and stop trying to "fix" things that you don't like? The years people lived actually are given exactly. Your disbelief changes nothing about how long God tells us they lived (and will live again soon in the future) Believe it, or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted April 25 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,063 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25 45 minutes ago, dad2 said: The years people lived actually are given exactly. If God prolonged the life of some people, it does not deny the fact that God set the lifetime of humans as seventy years. Your disbelief in His word changes nothing. Believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 25 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,509 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 25 53 minutes ago, The Barbarian said: If God prolonged the life of some people, it does not deny the fact that God set the lifetime of humans as seventy years. Your disbelief in His word changes nothing. Believe it or not. Everyone listed in that former time had long lives. There is no special pleading or exceptions that required a miracle involved generally. It was normal. The seventy year span was long after this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted April 26 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,063 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, dad2 said: Everyone listed in that former time had long lives. That's another of your additions to scripture, not God's word. 3 hours ago, dad2 said: The seventy year span was long after this time. And that's not in God's word, either. Why are you not satisfied with His word as it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 26 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,509 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 184 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, The Barbarian said: That's another of your additions to scripture, not God's word. And that's not in God's word, either. Why are you not satisfied with His word as it is? Not true. The exact years Noah, Adam and etc etc etc lived are written in the bible. Calling that an addition to scripture is a lie. At least you do not even pretend to be a believer. (except in your profile) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted April 26 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,063 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 969 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26 If God prolonged the life of some people, it does not deny the fact that God set the lifetime of humans as seventy years. Your disbelief in His word changes nothing. Believe it or not. 16 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Everyone listed in that former time had long lives. That's not what God says. He names a few who lived much longer. But He says a man's normal life span is about seventy years. Your disbelief in His word changes nothing. 11 hours ago, dad2 said: The exact years Noah, Adam and etc etc etc lived are written in the bible. Calling that an addition to scripture is a lie. What is dishonest, is you pretending I denied that God mentions a number of people who lived long beyond the seventy years He set for human life. What I pointed out was that you are unwilling to accept His word on the normal life span He set for humans. Try to do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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