Eating Unclean Food Is an Abomination to the Lord!

[farouk]

3 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Clean and unclean for Noah was not dietary, unless you consider what was offered as sacrifice was for God's consumption only? Thanks farouk

@Anne2 In terms of Scripture interpretation and typology, the unblemished nature of the sacrifice pointed forward to the Lord Jesus: 'Your lamb shall be without blessings ..... 'the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot'.

[Anne2]

14 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 9there went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

These were not dietary for Noah. They were for sacrifice.

 

15 minutes ago, Bro.Tan said:

So you believe Genesis 9: 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 

You can eat every moving things that liveth as long as it's clean. The lord said he saw a righteous generation at that time, not someone trying to twist the Lord's word's to there want, just to eat unclean food.

Kosher law under Moses was not limited to eating only animals that were fit for his altar. It is consistent. 

God is going back to when he gave them the green herb.

There is no inconsistency with Moses law

[Anne2]

2 minutes ago, FJK said:

The dietary laws were given quite a while after Noah's time had ended.

Yes. The only association for clean and unclean at that time was concerning sacrifices to God. The same as Moses gave law concerning sacrifices as well.

[farouk]

41 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Yes. The only association for clean and unclean at that time was concerning sacrifices to God. The same as Moses gave law concerning sacrifices as well.

@Anne2 Also the framework of Galatians, etc. - that we are not under the law now - is an important aspect.

[Anne2]

8 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Anne2 Also the framework of Galatians, etc. - that we are not under the law now - is an important aspect.

Yes. But here what is acceptable to God for an offering, is distinct from Mosaic dietary law. There is no inconsistency, to note clean and unclean for Noah did not mean dietary for him. 

[farouk]

21 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Yes. But here what is acceptable to God for an offering, is distinct from Mosaic dietary law. There is no inconsistency, to note clean and unclean for Noah did not mean dietary for him. 

@Anne2 There's also Hebrews 7; the law was changed (verse 12) and what we now have is better than the law (verse 19).

[farouk]

@Anne2 I do also think it's a matter of mindset. Some ppl do love the pursuit of ritual even if it's no longer warranted from Scripture: in the OT the types and shadows all pointed forward to the Lord Jesus, before He was fully revealed.

[Bro.Tan]

On 11/27/2023 at 9:30 AM, Anne2 said:

These were not dietary for Noah. They were for sacrifice.

 

Kosher law under Moses was not limited to eating only animals that were fit for his altar. It is consistent. 

God is going back to when he gave them the green herb.

There is no inconsistency with Moses law

The lord have not changed his ways. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed (Malachi 3:6) or Hebrews 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

In the scriptures it's written in Leviticus 20:  25 Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean. 26 And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

Now Paul said in Ephesians 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.  Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 

Now lets understand and reason together, Paul just gave us a run down on condition of sins. People who are behaving in such manner will not inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God, even those who are unclean. Being unclean does not mean a person doesn’t wash up, we are not talking about soap and water. We are talking about defiling the body and the mind, with unholiness or unGodliness.

[farouk]

But Galatians does show we are not under the law; and Hebrews 7 shows that the law was changed and what we now have is better than the law.

 

cc @Anne2

Edited November 29, 2023 by farouk

[Anne2]

On 11/24/2023 at 2:14 PM, choir loft said:

Christians REJECT the LAW entirely.   

No, we do not.

 

On 11/24/2023 at 2:14 PM, choir loft said:

Don't preach to me about pharisees - for the church is a prime example of modern phariseeism gone berserk.  The church has followed Judaism into the SAME trap of traditionalism vs. LAW. 

You acknowledge this then say....... 

 

On 11/24/2023 at 2:14 PM, choir loft said:

 Jews still observe the need to perform repentance, but the church has long since abandoned it.  

If they are following Pharisaical traditionalism, and not law, are they repenting that they didn't keep tradition? And repentance is just a return to keeping a tradition and not law? Makes no sense.