Mr. M Posted December 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.31 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.84 Reputation: 1,802 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Isaiah 44: 24 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself; 25 Who frustrates the signs of the babblers, And drives diviners mad; Who turns wise men backward, And makes their knowledge foolishness; 26 Who confirms the word of His servant, And performs the counsel of His messengers; Who says to Jerusalem, You shall be inhabited, To the cities of Judah, You shall be built, And I will raise up her waste places. Throughout the history of Israel, there was no lack of voices proclaiming predictions, giving ungodly counsel, and claiming wisdom from the imagination of their own hearts, and not from above. The Lord confirms His Word and promises swift judgment against false prognosticators, who try to interpret every current event as prophetic, and make predictions from their own worldly knowledge. Isaiah 47: 12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorcery, wherein thou hast labored from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be you may prevail. 13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. 14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. 15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast labored, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee. There are many such warnings in the apostolic doctrine that all should give heed. 2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truswell Posted December 29, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 192 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. M said: Isaiah 44: 24 Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself; 25 Who frustrates the signs of the babblers, And drives diviners mad; Who turns wise men backward, And makes their knowledge foolishness; 26 Who confirms the word of His servant, And performs the counsel of His messengers; Who says to Jerusalem, You shall be inhabited, To the cities of Judah, You shall be built, And I will raise up her waste places. Throughout the history of Israel, there was no lack of voices proclaiming predictions, giving ungodly counsel, and claiming wisdom from the imagination of their own hearts, and not from above. The Lord confirms His Word and promises swift judgment against false prognosticators, who try to interpret every current event as prophetic, and make predictions from their own worldly knowledge. Isaiah 47: 12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorcery, wherein thou hast labored from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be you may prevail. 13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. 14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. 15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast labored, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee. There are many such warnings in the apostolic doctrine that all should give heed. 2 Peter 2: 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not. 44:24-27 God presents Himself to the faithful remnant as Redeemer, Jehovah (the LORD), Creator, Protector, and Restorer. He frustrates the predictions of the Chaldean babblers and . . . diviners and the wisdom of the wise. He confirms the predictions of His own prophets that Jerusalem and Judah will be restored, and that His people will return from captivity under the decree of Cyrus. 44:28 This prophecy concerning Cyrus is remarkable in that it mentions him by name 150 to 200 years before he was born. It is also amazing that God calls him "My shepherd." Again Cyrus is named as the one whom God will use to deliver His people from Babylon and to authorize the rebuilding of the temple. Josephus, the Jewish historian, wrote: Now Cyrus learned this (as to building the Temple) by reading the book that Isaiah had left of his own prophecies 210 years before. . . . These things Isaiah foretold 140 years before the Temple was destroyed. When Cyrus, therefore, had read them, and had admired their divine character, an impulse and emulation seized him to do what was written. (David Guzik) My faith grows stronger by the day. Edited December 29, 2023 by Truswell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted December 31, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.31 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.84 Reputation: 1,802 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 12/29/2023 at 12:49 PM, Truswell said: 44:24-27 God presents Himself to the faithful remnant as Redeemer, Jehovah (the LORD), Creator, Protector, and Restorer. He frustrates the predictions of the Chaldean babblers and . . . diviners and the wisdom of the wise. He confirms the predictions of His own prophets that Jerusalem and Judah will be restored, and that His people will return from captivity under the decree of Cyrus. It is not the predictions of Chaldeans that are being addressed, as Guzik suggests. Jeremiah 27:9 Therefore do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your dreamers, your soothsayers, or your sorcerers, who speak to you, saying, You shall not serve the king of Babylon. 10 For they prophesy a lie to you... Ezekiel 13: 8 Therefore thus says the Lord God: Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you, says the Lord God. 9 My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God. 22 Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. 23 Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the Lord. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ While there is no lack of worldly experts predicting the end, it is those among the Body of Christ, whom He has not called, that offend. This too is lawlessness. Deuteronomy 18: 9 When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not appointed such for you. 15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die. 17 And the Lord said to me: What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. 21 And if you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken? 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truswell Posted December 31, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 192 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. M said: It is not the predictions of Chaldeans that are being addressed, as Guzik suggests. Jeremiah 27:9 Therefore do not listen to your prophets, your diviners, your dreamers, your soothsayers, or your sorcerers, who speak to you, saying, You shall not serve the king of Babylon. 10 For they prophesy a lie to you... Ezekiel 13: 8 Therefore thus says the Lord God: Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you, says the Lord God. 9 My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God. 22 Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life. 23 Therefore you shall no longer envision futility nor practice divination; for I will deliver My people out of your hand, and you shall know that I am the Lord. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ While there is no lack of worldly experts predicting the end, it is those among the Body of Christ, whom He has not called, that offend. This too is lawlessness. Deuteronomy 18: 9 When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not appointed such for you. 15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die. 17 And the Lord said to me: What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. 21 And if you say in your heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken? 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. The scriptures warn against the false prophets of the day, and you post similar warnings. I'm not sure if I understand you... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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