seraphimbride Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2006 What about the thought of original sin, and baptisim washing away the sin an infant is born with (being that an infant is human-born into sin)? Any comments, there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. Worm Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,447 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2006 "These evaluations are similar to what most scholars say on this subject, i.e., infant baptism was not practiced in the NT and no mention of it can be found within its pages." This is an amazing deception that you continue here horizoneast. You continue to cherry pick quotes and then spin your own meaning into them. "Most scholars" say infant baptism was not practiced in the NT? I suppose Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Edwards, and 99% of the other greatest theological minds don't constitute "most scholars" to you since all of those I mentioned clearly believe infant baptism was taught and practiced in the NT. Even the references you site don't say that. You are dellusional now and completely unable to grasp what you are reading. I don't believe a more dishonest thing has ever been said in this forum than your quote I listed above. Worse yet, you appear to be so blind in your reasoning that you cannot even see Scripture that others post in support of infant baptism and continually ask them to repeat themselves as if they have not already posted it. And you do so in such a condescending tone which is very sad. Are you really so blind? Certainly you have exhausted whatever credibility you may have had. If I were you I would select another screen name and start over again. sw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 2 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/10/1923 Share Posted April 22, 2006 eric said, Accusatory? I haven't accused anybody of anything. All I said is that I dont endulge in catholic/protestant debates. I am not anti catholic as far as personalities go, but I don't buy into some of their religious practises. I dont buy into infant baptism scriptually so there's no point in my hanging around. Calling someone a bigot is most certainly accusatory, in fact, as a alleged Christian, you should confess this sin, repent and ask for forgiveness from Bill. So if you don't believe in something, you just turn away and leave - hmm, sounds like all those who left Jesus (Jn 6) because they found His commandment regarding eating His Body and drinking His Blood too hard to swallow. It's your free will. Jesus didn't stop them either. If I called your friend a bigot, it must be because I consider him to be a bigot because of his attitude and I'm sure he doesn't need someone else rushing to his defence. If he's offended, let him speak for himself and as I don't seek his forgivenss I don't need tp repent. I told him why I was leaving and it was because I knew that this thread would end up by a brother getting bashed by catholics.....and I was right. You've only been on this board five minutes and you are crusading already. Cor.......gimme a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. Worm Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,447 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2006 horizoneast quote: Worm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. Worm Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,447 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2006 from eric: "I had a feeling this thread would turn into a catholic v protestant tussle." from SW: Disagree strongly. This thread is more: 1. Confessionalism vs. fundamentalist 2. Salvation by grace vs. salvation by works and free will 3 Sacrament of baptism vs. the good work of baptism and self-promotion There are Lutherans here too and the last thing this thread is is a Catholic vs. Protestant thread. Unless you are saying the real true original Protestants (Lutherans) are not really Protestants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. Worm Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,447 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2006 horizoneast says: "Why are examples of infants being baptized missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Smalcald My "organization" basis its belief that it is fine to baptize Christian children (which would include infants") solely on scripture. I do not quote any Church fathers, but base my beliefs on scripture alone. Smalcald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismarc Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 136 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/20/1950 Author Share Posted April 22, 2006 tah said, We have different opinions and that is where it is.. As far as I am concerned you cannot... nor can anyone ...prove by scripture that an infant is "Saved" by water baptism.. Nor can you prove the opposite by Scripture alone, you must turn to the Church for the definitive truth. (1 Tim. 3:15) You know, I do not think I am brain washed at all.. We simply have different views.. Only one of which is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismarc Posted April 22, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 136 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/20/1950 Author Share Posted April 22, 2006 horizoneast said, You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOJ Posted April 23, 2006 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 13 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2006 Clearly, baptism is a serious step. Baptizing an infant is wrong because a baby cannot understand, make a decision, and become a disciple. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." (Matthew 28:19, 20) Those baptized during Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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