billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Horizon, I've never heard it put that way. Hmmm.....Somthing to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Messiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Messiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing how it all comes together. Thanks, Shiloh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing how it all comes together. Thanks, Shiloh! You are welcome. You will find that some do not accept the literal reign of Christ on earth. That is OK. They will simply be pleasantly surprised when it happens. As for the literalness of the literal reign of Messiah on earth, it is noteworthy that in the Old Testament, there are ever 1,800 references to the literal reign of Messiah from earthly Jerusalem, and 17 of the OT books give extreme importance to this event. It is important to remember that in Jesus' day, the belief in the literal reign of Messiah was sooooo prevalent in the minds of the Jewish people that their obsession with it, obscured their ability to see who Jesus was in His first coming. I would also point out that Jesus NEVER condemned that perception of the Scriptures. Rather, He condemned the religious leaders for not knowing the time of their visitation. When the disciples asked Jesus if He was going to restore the Kingdom to Israel, his answer not not "no," but that it would happen at that the time appointed by the Father, and that it was not for them to know the time. In the New Testament there are some 300 places where the reign of Messiah from earthly Jerusalem are mentioned and these references are in 23 of the 27 books of the NT. The Bible is emphatic about this issue. I will discuss this in greater detail as the study progresses and feel free to challenge me, and ask questions. As long as they remain on the topic of the restoration of Israel, I will address them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I think by literal Shiloh means physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I think by literal Shiloh means physical. You are correct. All of us who are believers are part of the Kingdom of God which is not of this world. That is today, right now. Yet, Jesus Himself shall also reign on the throne of David. This is yet to come. And it is as you say, a physical reign from the city of Jerusalem. The New Testament treats this as an end time event. The throne of David is always an earthly throne, it is never spiritualized in any place in all of Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Yes, a physical throne, this is what I was always taught in church, also how I take these scriptures to mean when I look at them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 So, Horizon, you don't think Jesus will physically rule on earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billie Posted July 31, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,849 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/17/1979 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Minus the Mosaic, Levitical, and sacrificial aspects....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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