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  1. Why will there be a need of a third temple? Israel doesn't even need a temple to perform the daily sacrifice that will also be taken away.
  2. Who of the Church are with Jesus Pre-Trib?

    Hi Brother JoeChan82. A dear friend Gene Hawkins gave a study concerning the subject as a part of the book of Daniel, and I transcribed it from CD's. It is 167 pages long but I'll paste an excerpt of the introduction of what many believe is an unfulfilled 70th week of Daniel. If you really to go further into this I will attempt to email more. Blessings in Christ Jesus. "The first seven years of this “Church Age” were just a foretaste of that “Kingdom Age.” We’ll be studying this when we get into the book of Daniel, and some people talk about the unfulfilled week of Daniel 9:27. Well there is no unfilled week of Daniel 9:27 as that week was actually fulfilled during the first seven weeks of the “Church Age” because they are years of blessing. Men try to say that Daniel 9 refers to the seven year tribulation but it can’t be because those weeks prophesied there were prophesied weeks of blessings, and I’ll guarantee you that the week of tribulation is not a week of blessing. And so you see, God has already fulfilled Dan. 9:27 and there was a transition at the beginning of this age as God made the transition from the “Age of Law” to the “Age of Grace” and we'll see these things as we get on in the book of Daniel." I'm not able to receive email notifications from this forum due to some block of one they sent me. It was blocked possibly from a new security system I trying, but I have not been able to find out. Please reply in this thread I check in on at times. Thanks.
  3. Jesus' Angel

    I have a page of response to who Jesus' angel is, and how he is the answer to many questions to pre-trib, but now conclude that I'm evidently not a teacher, and will not pursue it. Instead I'll just quote scripture, and accept blame for having no reason for bringing the subject up. Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him (Jesus), to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He (Jesus) sent and signified it by HIS ANGEL unto His servant John: Rev 19:9 And he (Jesus' angel) saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him (a glorified saint in heaven pre-trib?). And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
  4. Jesus' Angel

    Well, I can see that this topic went over well. Thanks anyway.
  5. Who of the Church are with Jesus Pre-Trib?

    Either that, or I'm not teaching very well. Would you say that any in heaven at the time was a glorified saint, and that prior to the tribulation. I read in Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass . . Were these things revealed to be a rehashing of things past from Rev 4:1 on? Who are His servants at that time? The Church? Anyhow, thanks anyway for your reply.
  6. cracked ribs happened

    Dear Father, thank you for bringing this sweet daughter among us. Please have mercy on her mother now as you take ther care upon you, and give peace to turtletwo as she puts her trust in You. Have Your perfect way in these lives now, and I give You the praise for it in Jesus' name. Amen. Dear Sister Turtletwo, I've had cracked ribs, broken ribs, and bruised ribs. Cracked ribs give little or no pain unless leaned on more than normal pressure, and sleep was no problem. Bruised ribs is a whole other story; it hurts to even breath. However God heals, there will be a blessing in it, and God is pleased with you honoring your mother's desire. God bless you, and rest in the faith you have.
  7. Who of the Church are with Jesus Pre-Trib?

    Great questions Brother Steve. I'll attempt to qualify my responses using scripture, or suggestions of examples. With my thought of pre-trib I'm thinking of those of Philadelphia that were told that they would be kept from the temptation to come upon all the world which is the first 3 1/2 years of the week if they faithfully keep God's word. The anti-Christ or beast will have made a covent with many for a week of years, but will not have made war with the saints until the second half of the week know as the great tribulation , or Jacob's trouble. You mention the first part of the week as being the seventieth week of Daniel, and I belive that the seventieth week of Daniel ended after the time the Christians had all things in common, and Stephen was stoned. Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. There will be another week of Daniel according to Dan 9:27. I personally see those of the Old Testament as not a part of the Church (the body of Christ), but when Jesus died, He first descended, preached to them in Abraham's bosom (the righteous of the Old Testament) kept there as in a prison as it were until Jesus died and paid the price of heaven becoming open to them. Jesus called that place paradise as He spoke to the thief and told him that this day we die together as it were, you will be with Me in paradise (Lk 23:43). Where did Jesus go? Eph 4:9. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? In 2Co 12:4 refers to: How that he was caught up into paradise where the Old Testament remain today. We see the firstfruits of Israel unto God and the Lamb as the last rank of believers to be caught up in Rev 14:4, these are the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel sealed according to Rev 7:4. Now when we say first fruits, do not forget that all Israel shall be saved subsequent to this in Rom 11:26. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. (the five wise virgins?) These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits (of Israel) unto God and to the Lamb. Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. I hope this gives a bit of perspective to what we call the rapture. Blessings in Christ Jesus.
  8. Hi and good morning Alison_P. Reading your testimony here, I was amazed that with your diagnosed disability you have a good command of writing skills. I hear of, and really have no idea what's available as online work, but you may want to look into it. Does your disability affect your physical functions as well? I.e., are you able to walk, ride a bike, and/or other considered normal things as washing dishes, etc? You mention obtaining a learner's permit to learn driving, and your mental appitude seems to far surpass the minimun to accomplish that; go for it. There may be some rote memory involved such as speed limits in school zones, neighborhoods, and even a small amount of math skills as figuring how far to follow other drivers at certain speeds. Where I live we are to maintain a distance between the car ahead by 3 seconds, and that is done by counting off 3 seconds from some point the car in front of you just passed until you pass it; if you're too close, just back off a bit more. Praying for you sister in Jesus' name.
  9. God is Good

    Welcome and be blessed on the mission God has put you in Jesus' name.
  10. prayer for PatMen Skyward believer?

    May you also be blessed greatly for the love you have for others. I have prayed for them, and look for things occurring in their lives that will affect their walk in Christ, and for their good. Be blessed in Christ Jesus.
  11. I want to do what is right

    Dear Sister Eslyn, I'll sure pray for you and your husband. My wife and I suffered much of that separation while I was in the Air Force without enough rank and time in service to qualify to bring her to be with me. With love for one another, and God's faithfulness to work all these things for our good, somehow through it all I have now been married 61 years, my wife more beautiful to me than ever, a love ever growing stronger as she is now pretty much full care, but my Father knows the end fromm the beginning and has never failed us yet. Keep the faith, glorify God in all you do ( I wish I would have done that) and look for the deliverance only He can give you in Jesus' name.
  12. son's appointment today

    Hi turtletwo, and I have just prayed for your son. Physical therapy can do wonders for an injury as they get tightened muscles stretched , and everything working correctly again. May God bless both of you as He takes you though the fire of trials to your life in Jesus precious name. Amen.
  13. What is the "Secret Rapture"

    Good morning WilliamL, I just posted a reply concerning the 24 elders & 4 living ones at the following URL I’d like you to also consider. Thanks. Well, that didn't work and wanted to post the entire reply here when I posted the URL, so I'll just repeat it here. The reason I posted this is to bring attention to Rev 4:4 & Rev 4:6. the 24 elders and the four beasts or living ones. This is not original with me, but I also believe the 24 elders to be those of the church of Smyrna we read of in Rev 2:10. . . . be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. These would be those dead of 1 Thes 4:16 that rise first, and in Rev 4:4 they are said to have on their heads crowns of gold. Next I bring forth the 4 beasts, or what are also called the 4 living ones in some bibles we read of in Rev 4:6. They are told that they will be kept from the temptation to come upon all the world if they faitfully keep the word of God in Rev 3:10, to try them that dwell upon the earth. These are those alive when Jesus comes in the air for them according to 1 Thes 4:17, and notice in Rev 3:11 that they are also said to have a crown. Of seven portions of the churches in different locations which make up the one body of Christ, there are only two commended, and said to have crowns. The remaining five locations of the one body of Christ are told to repent such as we read of concerning the church in Ephesus in Rev 2:5. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick (church)out of his place (you started off first, and now may be third or whatever?), except thou repent. In other words you started off good, but in Rev 2:4 we see they had left thy first love in Rev 2:4. (They were no longer putting Jesus first?) Important? In Rev 6:1 with the first of the seals opened, we see one of the living ones even working in conjunction with Jesus. Were they glorified? Eze 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man, and in Eze 1:14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning. There's more but I hate to get too lenghty in one post. Blessings in Christ Jesus.
  14. Who of the Church are with Jesus Pre-Trib?

    Good morning Diaste. The reason I posted this is to bring attention to Rev 4:4 & Rev 4:6. the 24 elders and the four beasts or living ones. This is not original with me, but I also believe the 24 elders to be those of the church of Smyrna we read of in Rev 2:10. . . . be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. These would be those dead of 1 Thes 4:16 that rise first, and in Rev 4:4 they are said to have on their heads crowns of gold. Next I bring forth the 4 beasts, or what are also called the 4 living ones in some bibles we read of in Rev 4:6. They are told that they will be kept from the temptation to come upon all the world if they faitfully keep the word of God in Rev 3:10, to try them that dwell upon the earth. These are those alive when Jesus comes in the air for them according to 1 Thes 4:17, and notice in Rev 3:11 that they are also said to have a crown. Of seven portions of the churches in different locations which make up the one body of Christ, there are only two commended, and said to have crowns. The remaining five locations of the one body of Christ are told to repent such as we read of concerning the church in Ephesus in Rev 2:5. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick (church)out of his place (you started off first, and now may be third or whatever?), except thou repent. In other words you started off good, but in Rev 2:4 we see they had left thy first love in Rev 2:4. (They were no longer putting Jesus first?) Important? In Rev 6:1 with the first of the seals opened, we see one of the living ones even working in conjunction with Jesus. Were they glorified? Eze 1:5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man, and in Eze 1:14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning. There's more but I hate to get too lenghty in one post. Blessings in Christ Jesus.
  15. Thanks. Would you possibly consider that the 24 elders and the 4 beasts, or Living ones constitute the pre-trib saints? If not who do you think they are?
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