FailedChristian Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 3, 2006 Read this article and let me know what you think. Personally, I wonder if this is in effect what is ailing our Christian walk. http://www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/...eGoldenCalf.htm The effects of Warren's/Peale's/Schuller's writings are detrimental to the true message of the Cross. Comments? discussion? FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailedChristian Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Read this article and let me know what you think. Personally, I wonder if this is in effect what is ailing our Christian walk. http://www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/...eGoldenCalf.htm The effects of Warren's/Peale's/Schuller's writings are detrimental to the true message of the Cross. Comments? discussion? FC Greetings FC, These are the wolves in sheeps clothing, they have an agenda that is not from above. H. Are you talking of Schuller/Peale/Warren or the website authors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebmilc Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 204 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/07/1949 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Read this article and let me know what you think. Personally, I wonder if this is in effect what is ailing our Christian walk. http://www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/...eGoldenCalf.htm The effects of Warren's/Peale's/Schuller's writings are detrimental to the true message of the Cross. Comments? discussion? FC Greetings FC, These are the wolves in sheeps clothing, they have an agenda that is not from above. H. Are you talking of Schuller/Peale/Warren or the website authors? GET OUT OR DIE "If your Church has been plateaued for 6 months, it might take 6 months to get it going again. If it's been plateaued a year, it might take a year. If it's been plateaued for 20 years, you've got to set in for the duration! I'm saying some people are going to have to die or leave" (Ministry toolbox No 263 6/14/06) Rick Warren's concepts of how to be a loving shepherd. Sounds pretty scary to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailedChristian Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Read this article and let me know what you think. Personally, I wonder if this is in effect what is ailing our Christian walk. http://www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/...eGoldenCalf.htm The effects of Warren's/Peale's/Schuller's writings are detrimental to the true message of the Cross. Comments? discussion? FC Greetings FC, These are the wolves in sheeps clothing, they have an agenda that is not from above. H. Are you talking of Schuller/Peale/Warren or the website authors? GET OUT OR DIE "If your Church has been plateaued for 6 months, it might take 6 months to get it going again. If it's been plateaued a year, it might take a year. If it's been plateaued for 20 years, you've got to set in for the duration! I'm saying some people are going to have to die or leave" (Ministry toolbox No 263 6/14/06) Rick Warren's concepts of how to be a loving shepherd. Sounds pretty scary to me. This is a very serious thing indeed. Warren's teachings need to be exposed as hatred against believers. FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Love that Rick Warren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailedChristian Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Love that Rick Warren! I presume you are being sarcastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Love that Rick Warren! I presume you are being sarcastic? No, I loved his book, and saw no problem with it whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailedChristian Posted September 3, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Love that Rick Warren! I presume you are being sarcastic? No, I loved his book, and saw no problem with it whatsoever. Did you read the articles on the sites I posted? Try this: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/expose...n/scripture.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailedChristian Posted September 4, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 Love that Rick Warren! I presume you are being sarcastic? No, I loved his book, and saw no problem with it whatsoever. You mean you didn't pick up on the neo-paganistic elements of his message? or the seeker-sensitive overtone? Saddleback has like a couple dozen services each sunday, last time I checked. If you want to be a goth, you go to one service. "Western style" worship? go to door 3. rock and roll? Go to door 4, etc. its on his site, just look it up. From the Saddleback statement of Faith: God has allowed evil to provide us with a choice, God can bring good even out of evil events and God promises victory over evil to those who choose him. The statement is totally confusing and rife with doctrinal assumptions. The remainder of the site presents a person-centred type of humanism/pop-psychology that denies the existence of REAL SIN and the need for REAL REPENTANCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 4, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 4, 2006 From the Saddleback statement of Faith: God has allowed evil to provide us with a choice, God can bring good even out of evil events and God promises victory over evil to those who choose him. The statement is totally confusing and rife with doctrinal assumptions. The remainder of the site presents a person-centred type of humanism/pop-psychology that denies the existence of REAL SIN and the need for REAL REPENTANCE. What is wrong with that as part of their statement of faith? I do not believe, after reading Rick Warren, that he denies "real sin and the need for real repentance." He is being castigated unfairly, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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