Catsmeow Posted November 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted November 5, 2006 Botticelli: Good point about Hitler. I wondered if anyone would remember how he emptied out the crippled-children's homes for slaughter and we're on the same path.... But we're more "politically correct" these days.. We don't call it murder. For instance, "Partial Birth Abortion" is politely called "Dilation Extraction". Uh-hem..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxboy90 Posted November 5, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/29/1990 Share Posted November 5, 2006 My aunt has down syndrome....i dont even want to think of people doing something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgolvach Posted November 6, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 110 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,254 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted November 6, 2006 Even the worst Muslim extremists don't do this. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Durnan Posted November 7, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,782 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/14/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 7, 2006 Didn't Singer work for the Kerry Campaign? http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesbluegirl Posted November 7, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted November 7, 2006 that's a different peter singer. he works out of the brookings institute, i believe, on international relations, policy, etc. so decidedly NOT bioethics. nevertheless, i just wanted to remind anyone that singer hardly represents the mainstream in bioethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted November 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Whysoblind, you're missing something. . . These purists will stilll need stupid people to serve them. So, they will have a use for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesbluegirl Posted November 8, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,234 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/17/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1987 Share Posted November 8, 2006 justinm-i like your style. actually if we're looking at where this argument goes, it heads more in the direction of genetic engineering - culling disease and other genetic "mistakes" that way. it will be an interesting subject to watch. interestingly enough, the idea of a "slippery slope" is actually a flawed notion that generally doesn't play out in society. it's more of a scare tactic usually. a good case study is japan, which has a cultural history of infanticide (and of an altogether different conception of life - because of the notion of reincarnation, life and rebirth are historically seen as a cycle through the world of mortals and the world of the divine, and a child is not fully in the world till he or she has reached the age of 13). as abortion became more widely practiced, incidences of infantacide decreased dramatically (obviously). contraception is not totally accepted (for various reasons), yet as it gains prominence, the number of abortions/year is steadily decreasing. in other words, japan is going "up the slippery slope!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahisgr8 Posted December 8, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2006 I am not surprised at all. I think the man is logical and consequent in his dealings with the matter. If a scientist believes that it is o.k to kill a child under certain conditions then there really is no stopping them now, is there? I mean, where will it end? .. Pre-natal screening to see if the child will be genetically pure? Implanting only pre-approved embryos? This sounds like sci-fi stuff, but it is fast becomming reality. Murder is murder. Plain and simple. Killing the unborn is murder, just as killing the already born is murder. Reminds me of the lady who worked in the abortion clinic which was the victim of a bomb attack about a year ago, remember that? This lady who made a living out of killing the unborn was outraged at the bombing and pronounced judgement on herself: "The person who killed my boss deserves the death penalty". Oh Lord, have mercy on us all.. Prov.18:36 "But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; All those who hate me love death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted December 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted December 8, 2006 quote georgesbluegirl: "actually if we're looking at where this argument goes, it heads more in the direction of genetic engineering - culling disease and other genetic "mistakes" that way. it will be an interesting subject to watch. " What's the difference between this and the purist concepts Hitler and his Nazis lived by. The same people that believe we are on a path of enlightenment and are evolving into more spiritual beings everyday, are the same people that embrace Darwin, and those evil purist ideologies. They want the strong, healthy (and eventually beautiful) to survive and kill anyone who is weak, including developing human beings, fully developed, but unborn human beings, then they start with the elderly and invalids and will make their way to cancer victims, obese and people who suffer from heart disease. Some people, who think they're oh so beautiful and glamorous are the same people that are so insecure about themselves that they will not allow "ugly" people near them, because it may make them look bad. Society constantly makes the same mistakes over and over again. It sacrifices its young, kills its weak, loses its identity, then it loses its existence. I would say the US is beginning to go through the middle two right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted December 8, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted December 8, 2006 quote georgesbluegirl: "actually if we're looking at where this argument goes, it heads more in the direction of genetic engineering - culling disease and other genetic "mistakes" that way. it will be an interesting subject to watch. " What's the difference between this and the purist concepts Hitler and his Nazis lived by. The same people that believe we are on a path of enlightenment and are evolving into more spiritual beings everyday, are the same people that embrace Darwin, and those evil purist ideologies. They want the strong, healthy (and eventually beautiful) to survive and kill anyone who is weak, including developing human beings, fully developed, but unborn human beings, then they start with the elderly and invalids and will make their way to cancer victims, obese and people who suffer from heart disease. Some people, who think they're oh so beautiful and glamorous are the same people that are so insecure about themselves that they will not allow "ugly" people near them, because it may make them look bad. Society constantly makes the same mistakes over and over again. It sacrifices its young, kills its weak, loses its identity, then it loses its existence. I would say the US is beginning to go through the middle two right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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