Creation in 6 literal Days

[JIME]

My husband and I recently veiwed debate on the John Ankerberg website called "The Great Debate" with Mr. Ken Ham and Dr Jason Lisle (representing young Earth creationists) debating Dr Hugh Ross and Dr Walter Kaiser (representing old Earth creationists).

I noticed that the old Earth creationist deliberately ignore the first day account specifically Genesis 1:3-5 "3 Then God said,

[spiritman]

Hi JIME,

Interesting subject, a lot of people in the Church today don't think that this question is important. but the truth of the matter is, that if you take out the Genesis account, then you wipe out the very Reason for Jesus Christ coming in the first place, and I believe that is what the Evolutionists are up to.

[Observer of dreams]

days dont start until the sun was created after the earth. read genesis closely.

[Guest]

{{{ days dont start until the sun was created after the earth. read genesis closely. }}}

OK!

Way Cool Subject!

Hay Guys Look, We have a time machine!

Day one - No Sun!

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Day two - No Sun!

[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

[8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Day Three - No Sun!

[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Day Four - The Sun, The Sun!

[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Day five - The Chicken and The Egg!

[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Day six - Grandma and Grandpa!

[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Genesis 1 )

[JIME]

days dont start until the sun was created after the earth. read genesis closely.

The sun is used to help man measure a day, but God doesn't need the sun to do that. God already said that a day existed in Genesis 1:3-5 "3 Then God said,

[spiritman]

{{{ days dont start until the sun was created after the earth. read genesis closely. }}}

OK!

Way Cool Subject!

Hay Guys Look, We have a time machine!

Day one - No Sun!

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Day two - No Sun!

[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

[8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Day Three - No Sun!

[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Day Four - The Sun, The Sun!

[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Day five - The Chicken and The Egg!

[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Day six - Grandma and Grandpa!

[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(Genesis 1 )

Yes let's look at the scripture carefully, shall we? Without any preconceived notions.

My points will be highlighted in red.

Day one - No Sun!

[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Please answer this question for me. If days don't begin until day 4, what is the day that God is refering to here in verses 3 & 5?. You can't just ignore the text. Also God is outside of time. He does not need the sun, moon and stars to be signs of the seasons for Himself. This is for our benefit, so we can plant crops and what not.

Oh one more thing if the word of God is true and we know it is, and we also know that God is correct when He says something, and His word is infalliable, then also answer me this on day four why does God say 4th day, and not day 1, if in fact there are no days until the sun is made, why here on day 4 does it say day 4 and not day 1?

or if the other 3 days represent long periods of time shouldn't it say day 1095000? to be accurate?

That is if each day is as 1,000 years. note this in red

Day Four - The Sun, The Sun!

[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

[Observer of dreams]

According to you God never made the sun. It should be presumed that the light that genisis was speaking of was the sunlight.

and also you forgot to mention this part.

Genesis 1

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Earth was created before the sun, or before light.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

The first day came after the earth was created because god declared the first day only after separating the light from the dark.

If your going to take the bible literally than this is the interpretation that must be followed. Any thing else is personal opinion.

Now if the earth was created before light, and the earth was created before the light was separated from darkness, then the earth was created before the first day.

The sun is used to help man measure a day, but God doesn't need the sun to do that.

Of course! God doesn't need humans either but here we are

[apothanein kerdos]

If God created the world in 7 days, why did He feel it necessary to create a garden, that is, a safe haven from the world?

[apothanein kerdos]

Then why was the punishment banishment?

[Floatingaxe]

The garden, I believe, was the epitome of all that was beautiful for His creation to reside in. Simple. Not a safe haven, but a sanctuary just the same.

When an artist crafts a masterpiece, he places it in a place of honour!

Banishment outside was to signify a place of dishonour.