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...to tempt us?

We are all so aware that God did test/tempt Abraham as we read in Gen 22:1...But as I was reading the other verses containing tempt, it was all in the context man tempting God or Christ...We also say the Lord Prayer, And lead us not into temptation , but deliver us from evil" Mat 6: 13

Luk 4:13 "And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season."...We read about the temptation of Christ..Was there any involvement of Father God in this temptation?

I would request my brethren here, to please enlighten me in this regard...Does God test us knowingly? And does he allow the devil to tempt us as well?

God Bless

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Yes....and yes! :)

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Yes....and yes! :)

Floatingaxe, I expected more than that from you...Im sure you would like to back it up with some thought provoking explanations, as you normally do..Thanks!! :thumbsup:

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1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you, except such as is common to man, but God is faithfull, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

James 1:14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.

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I would request my brethren here, to please enlighten me in this regard...Does God test us knowingly? And does he allow the devil to tempt us as well?

God Bless

James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God", for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.

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Yes....and yes! :)

Floatingaxe, I expected more than that from you...Im sure you would like to back it up with some thought provoking explanations, as you normally do..Thanks!! :)

Okay, I will add a little...

Deuteronomy 8:2

Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the desert these forty years, to humble you and to test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands.

Deuteronomy 8:16

He gave you manna to eat in the desert, something your fathers had never known, to humble and to test you so that in the end it might go well with you.

Just by these verses above, I gather from them that God certainly wants the very best for us, and He wants our very lives to be a testament to Him, successful in performing His will, and receiving all His blessings that He has planned for us. He never wants to harm us or to cause us to be discouraged and lose our faith, but these testings He sends us are individual and meant to strengthen us, and cause us to follow ever more closely after Him!

When we buck Him, we are destined to further testing in the same areas until we learn.

Of course, my FAVOURITE verse is Jeremiah 29:11...

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

Psalm 26:2...

Test me, O LORD, and try me, examine my heart and my mind;

Test me Lord and try me, and see if there be any wicked way in me! Amen!

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Test me Lord and try me, and see if there be any wicked way in me! Amen!

This is what is called "tempting the Lord".

We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God.

This not an attack.....just thought it needed mentioning.

It's scripture! :)

Psalm 139:23-24...

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;

test me and know my anxious thoughts.

24 See if there is any offensive way in me,

and lead me in the way everlasting.

That is not what tempting the Lord is about.

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Test me Lord and try me, and see if there be any wicked way in me! Amen!

This is what is called "tempting the Lord".

We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God.

This not an attack.....just thought it needed mentioning.

It's scripture! :)

I deleted my post, but since you brought it up.

Are you saying you are without sin?

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Test me Lord and try me, and see if there be any wicked way in me! Amen!

This is what is called "tempting the Lord".

We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God.

This not an attack.....just thought it needed mentioning.

It's scripture! :)

I deleted my post, but since you brought it up.

Are you saying you are without sin?

Never mind.

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Actually, Floatingaxe's statement was fairly accurate. Consider David's numbering of Israel. We have three statements in scripture regarding the agency that caused David to sin by doing a census:

1. David was personally responsible for the sin of numbering the people:

David's conscience troubled him after he had taken a census of the troops. He said to the LORD, "I have sinned greatly in what I've done. Now, Lord, because I've been very foolish, please take away your servant's guilt."

2 Samuel 24:10 CSB

2. The scriptures also indicate that it was Satan who was the direct tempting agent:

Satan stood up against Israel and incited David to count the people of Israel.

1 Chronicles 21:1 CSB

3. The scripture also indicates that God played a part in inciting David to number the people:

The LORD's anger burned against Israel again, and it stirred up David against them to say: "Go, count the people of Israel and Judah."

2 Samuel 24:1 CSB

So for one act we have three different statements regarding what "motivated" David to take action.

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