Work in Progress Posted February 16, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,111 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2003 Violence seems to be a product of Fear and Hate What do you think? Brother Adstar, this is a pacifist P.O.V. Yes, sometimes it is, but if you look at Scripture as a whole, God uses violence many, many times to bring about His purposes and goals. Violence is not always wrong. Sometimes it is righteous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted February 16, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 16, 2003 Sister WIP, you make a good point but in light of all the coverage of the threats of violence against Christians and Jews lately, I think we may have both been thinking along those lines. BTW, I came out of my computer room only to have my husband wave me over and tell me, "Hey, the Iraqis just kicked Fox News out of their country; they've been ordered to leave first thing tomarrow." Now, even our news media are being shown the door. Another main news agency was kicked out yesterday {he didn't remember who, though}. The violence we see so much of between the Jews and Palestians, for instance, can only be based on fear and hatred. Â They're kicking out our news anchors now. Soon enough, tensions will evolve to the point of outright violence. The level of hatred, fear and panic on the world stage is escalating rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest muttly Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 The love of money isn't the root of evil. The love of money is   A   root of all kinds of evil. point being there are many roots.  point made that yes the love of money is a problem, not money itself. :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb: Yes pride is a major root of evil ! What is pride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boblandis Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,859 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1963 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Pride is the root of all evil. Pride makes us lustful. Pride makes us hateful. Pride makes us everything we are not supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdoove Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 303 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 698 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/05/1946 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem! RE: ? The Root of all Human Evil The love of money is the root of evil, as quoted in Timothy. I stand CORRECTED! Yet I don't understand something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Ernie Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,802 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/01/1945 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Greetings All, Let's look at this "in CONTEXT": (my comments are interspersed) 1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 1 Timothy 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. So let's quickly take a look at the temptation of Adam: Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Here is the definitionof "desired": 02530 chamad {khaw-mad'} a primitive root; TWOT - 673 AV - desire 11, covet 4, delight 2, pleasant 1, beauty 1, lust 1, delectable things 1; 21 v 1) to desire, covet, take pleasure in, delight in   1a) (Qal) to desire   1b) (Niphal) to be desirable   1c) (Piel) to delight greatly, desire greatly n f 2) desirableness, preciousness Do you see the connection with "love" (avarice - greed, lust) to Adam's temptation? 1 Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. Adam could have been content with the Tree of Life, but instead yielded to the temptation which was beautiful to the eyes, good to eat and to make one wise - to be like God. Isn't it enough to be "like Him"? 1 Timothy 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 1 Timothy 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. Do you see that "wanton desire" will lead into many foolish and hurtful lusts? 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. So as it is STRESSED, it is the "LOVE" (avarice) that got Adam into trouble. Blessings, Dad Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 19, 2003 Pride is the root of all evil. Pride makes us lustful. Pride makes us hateful. Pride makes us everything we are not supposed to be. Agreed! Â :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdoove Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 303 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 698 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/05/1946 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem! Dad Ernie- that was a good explaination has to how Adam got himself in trouble. However, I didn't ask that. My question is what motived Eve to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life, when she had no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Ernie Posted February 19, 2003 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,802 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/01/1945 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Greetings Snowdoove, My question is what motived Eve to eat the fruit of the Tree of Life, when she had no money. Eve was given to Adam to be HIS "helpmeet". Adam was given authority over Eve and as her "ruler"(?) was responsible for teaching her what God personally taught him. God gave Adam and Eve permission to "eat freely from the Tree of Life". So I don't have any idea why you bring the subject of money up? ????? Blessings, Dad Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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