Oh Hamburgers! Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,144 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 163 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1985 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't mean to inspire controversy here, but I am curious. What makes abortion the be-all end-all issue for many here? Besides the obvious moral complications with it, why would abortion be the one deciding factor on supporting someone. I mean, for me someone who is strict on abortion rules would be a plus, but it is not my priority for a representative. For many here, it seems that abortion is one of the top issues for a candidate, and if they support abortion it is an immediate loss of support. Why is this? If I agreed with a candidate on all their ideas except for abortion, I would still support the candidate, while it sounds like many here would not. Killing human life is bigger than balancing the national budget. That about sums 'er up. If a dream candidate is great on all counts, but then says, "you know, I think drowning babies is okay..." that guy ought not get elected. True, but on the same note, if the only pro-life candidate plans on raising taxes for a chocolate mansion, disbanding the millitary, and setting up legalized prostitution, I would have trouble voting for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't mean to inspire controversy here, but I am curious. What makes abortion the be-all end-all issue for many here? Besides the obvious moral complications with it, why would abortion be the one deciding factor on supporting someone. I mean, for me someone who is strict on abortion rules would be a plus, but it is not my priority for a representative. For many here, it seems that abortion is one of the top issues for a candidate, and if they support abortion it is an immediate loss of support. Why is this? If I agreed with a candidate on all their ideas except for abortion, I would still support the candidate, while it sounds like many here would not. Killing human life is bigger than balancing the national budget. That about sums 'er up. If a dream candidate is great on all counts, but then says, "you know, I think drowning babies is okay..." that guy ought not get elected. True, but on the same note, if the only pro-life candidate plans on raising taxes for a chocolate mansion, disbanding the millitary, and setting up legalized prostitution, I would have trouble voting for them Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Hamburgers! Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,144 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 163 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1985 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Tmrfiles, if I had the choice, I would put many more restrictions on abortion than there are currently for sure. I don't agree with current policies. I agree that abortion in its current form is grisly, and in most cases murder. However, if I felt that the only pro-life candidate would be putting the entire nation in jeapordy in the future, I still woudn't vote for him/her. As cruel as it might sound, I have higher priorities in mind for my ideal presidential candidate than abortion. If I see a positive future for a vast amount of americans and other peoples of the world through a president with loose abortion laws, I will support that candidate because I feel that the good will outweigh the bad. That's how I approach the situation at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal-Cain Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 448 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1981 Share Posted April 18, 2007 it is a shame that we have so many laws that would put you into prison for killing a baby animal, yet nothing to protect a human baby. If you want to make a legitimate comparison show us laws where animal abortions are outlawed. If you killed a human baby (someone who was born) you would be put in jail. as it was predicted for the endtimes, what is right will be wrong and what is wrong will be right. we have arrived!! Abortion has been around since antiquity. Things have actually gotten better as back then born infants were actually left to die from exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I can't vote for anyone that doesnt see the value of human life, even the life that is growing within the womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal-Cain Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 448 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/10/1981 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I can't vote for anyone that doesnt see the value of human life, even the life that is growing within the womb. Do you also refuse to vote for those who support the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I can't vote for anyone that doesnt see the value of human life, even the life that is growing within the womb. Do you also refuse to vote for those who support the death penalty? Death penalty can be Biblically supported. I can vote for someone who supports it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2007 Shalom, I wouldn't vote for him now. I would consider voting for Fred Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I'm leaning towards Mitt Romney. He isnt wishy washy on on abortion. I heard him explain why at one point he was pro choice. A close family member got a botched illegal abortion and he was angry. His anger clouded his beliefs. He has since repented of it and now thinks clearly. He is very much against abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickilynn Posted April 18, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2007 Shalom, He's also a Mormon I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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